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  • M Marc Clifton

    Colin Angus Mackay wrote: In the UK the effective tax rate is around 400% Wow. What do they do with that money? Marc Microsoft MVP, Visual C# MyXaml MyXaml Blog

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    Tea. And Biscuits. Ginger ones. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Christopher Duncan quoted: "...that would require my explaining Einstein's Fear of Relatives" Crikey! ain't life grand? XmlTransformer, my latest CP article.

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      I read yesterday that Europe pays almost 3x what we pay here in the US for a gallon of gasoline. Why? Marc Microsoft MVP, Visual C# MyXaml MyXaml Blog

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      Perhaps we just get a bulk-rate discount... You know, like volume licensing :rolleyes: ~Nitron.


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        Tea. And Biscuits. Ginger ones. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Christopher Duncan quoted: "...that would require my explaining Einstein's Fear of Relatives" Crikey! ain't life grand? XmlTransformer, my latest CP article.

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        Colin Angus Mackay
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        :laugh::laugh::laugh:


        "You can have everything in life you want if you will just help enough other people get what they want." --Zig Ziglar Coming soon: The Second EuroCPian Event

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        • M Marc Clifton

          I read yesterday that Europe pays almost 3x what we pay here in the US for a gallon of gasoline. Why? Marc Microsoft MVP, Visual C# MyXaml MyXaml Blog

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          Rocky Moore
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          I would love to have an electric car powered on lithium batteries. I saw one on TechTV a while back. They guys put it together by using something like 6,800 laptop batteries and it could be charged by plugging into your 110 power outlet. That sure would be handy ;) Rocky <>< www.HintsAndTips.com www.GotTheAnswerToSpam.com

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            I read yesterday that Europe pays almost 3x what we pay here in the US for a gallon of gasoline. Why? Marc Microsoft MVP, Visual C# MyXaml MyXaml Blog

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            Antony M Kancidrowski
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            Tax on fuel in the UK is extortionate. Approx. 80% of the cost! That is why when we come over to the states we don't care about filling up our 5 litre hire cars! ;P Ant.

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              Mike Puddephat wrote: dissuade people from using cars That really bugs me. :mad: The government treats all car users the same regardless of the availability of public transport in their area. I live in a smallish town where, if I didn't have a car, it would take at least 2 1/2 hours to get to work and require taking 2 trains and a bus. If I had a better memory I would remember more.

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              pseudonym67
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              Suzanne Boyle wrote: if I didn't have a car, it would take at least 2 1/2 hours to get to work and require taking 2 trains and a bus U mean London ;P pseudonym67 My Articles[^] "They say there are strangers who threaten us, In our immigrants and infidels. They say there is strangeness too dangerous In our theaters and bookstore shelves. That those who know what's best for us Must rise and save us from ourselves." Rush

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                I would love to have an electric car powered on lithium batteries. I saw one on TechTV a while back. They guys put it together by using something like 6,800 laptop batteries and it could be charged by plugging into your 110 power outlet. That sure would be handy ;) Rocky <>< www.HintsAndTips.com www.GotTheAnswerToSpam.com

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                scadaguy
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                The efficiency of pure electric vehicles isn't that great. In fact, it is only marginally better than gasoline. And it might actually be less efficient than a hybrid engine, although I'm not sure about that. Remember, that electricity had to be generated somewhere. The generation and transmission process isn't that efficient. Fuel cells are the way to go. Unfortunately, they too require oil based fuels.* *That isn't necessarily true. They really only require hydrogen, but it can take more energy to extract hydrogen from a substance than what you get in return. It is relatively inexpensive to extract hydrogen from oil based fuels and the infrastructure is already in place.

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                • M Marc Clifton

                  I read yesterday that Europe pays almost 3x what we pay here in the US for a gallon of gasoline. Why? Marc Microsoft MVP, Visual C# MyXaml MyXaml Blog

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                  how much do you pay for 1 gallon? (in sweden we pay about 5 dollars)

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                    To help settle that part. When I was in California on earlier this year a US Gallon of Gas (petrol) was about $2.10 - $2.20. A US Gallon = 3.785 litres. All petrol prices in the UK are in litres. 1 litre of petrol in Edinburgh was about 79.9p (US$1.46). Which for one US Gallons is US$5.53 So that is 2.6 times more expensive.


                    "You can have everything in life you want if you will just help enough other people get what they want." --Zig Ziglar Coming soon: The Second EuroCPian Event

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                    Jonas Larsson
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                    Wow, your petrol are actually more expensive than ours... :confused: We pay about $1.33 per litre (10.48 SEK) here in Sweden. Nice to know that we're not no.1 in taxes for all things. ;P --- "Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest". -- Denis Diderot

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                      how much do you pay for 1 gallon? (in sweden we pay about 5 dollars)

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                      David Crow
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                      Where I live, 87 octane is $1.88 per gallon, while 93 octane is $2.00 per gallon.


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                        how much do you pay for 1 gallon? (in sweden we pay about 5 dollars)

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                        Marc Clifton
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                        olle wrote: how much do you pay for 1 gallon? (in sweden we pay about 5 dollars) Right now, $2.00 per gallon for premium unleaded. Marc Microsoft MVP, Visual C# MyXaml MyXaml Blog

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                        • M Marc Clifton

                          I read yesterday that Europe pays almost 3x what we pay here in the US for a gallon of gasoline. Why? Marc Microsoft MVP, Visual C# MyXaml MyXaml Blog

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                          Heinz R Vahlbruch
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                          Well, let's see. Here in Germany we currently have to pay 1,19 Euro / US$ 1.44 per liter Super. For 1 US gallon we would have to pay 4,51 Euro or US$ 5.46. 73% of the gasoline price in Germany are taxes. We are told by the oil groups that currently prices are high because the US are buying gasoline on the European market. They say, that the US don't have enough resources and capacities to produce enough unleaded fuel for their own people. They expect prices to stay high over summer. Greetings,

                          heinz r. vahlbruch
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                            Well, let's see. Here in Germany we currently have to pay 1,19 Euro / US$ 1.44 per liter Super. For 1 US gallon we would have to pay 4,51 Euro or US$ 5.46. 73% of the gasoline price in Germany are taxes. We are told by the oil groups that currently prices are high because the US are buying gasoline on the European market. They say, that the US don't have enough resources and capacities to produce enough unleaded fuel for their own people. They expect prices to stay high over summer. Greetings,

                            heinz r. vahlbruch
                            vahlbruch.net
                            intelligent software systems
                            [email] [web]

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                            Marc Clifton
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                            Heinz R. Vahlbruch wrote: We are told by the oil groups that currently prices are high because the US are buying gasoline on the European market. They say, that the US don't have enough resources and capacities to produce enough unleaded fuel for their own people. Yes, in that article I read (can't find the link anymore), it pointed out that the US has 5% of the world's population and consumes 45% of the gasoline produced. Something's got to change. Marc Microsoft MVP, Visual C# MyXaml MyXaml Blog

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                              Heinz R. Vahlbruch wrote: We are told by the oil groups that currently prices are high because the US are buying gasoline on the European market. They say, that the US don't have enough resources and capacities to produce enough unleaded fuel for their own people. Yes, in that article I read (can't find the link anymore), it pointed out that the US has 5% of the world's population and consumes 45% of the gasoline produced. Something's got to change. Marc Microsoft MVP, Visual C# MyXaml MyXaml Blog

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                              Chris Losinger
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                              Marc Clifton wrote: Something's got to change. it will. there haven't been any significant oil discoveries in decades; and China and India are increasing their consumption as they get richer. Cleek | Losinger Designs | ClickPic | ThumbNailer

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                                Heinz R. Vahlbruch wrote: We are told by the oil groups that currently prices are high because the US are buying gasoline on the European market. They say, that the US don't have enough resources and capacities to produce enough unleaded fuel for their own people. Yes, in that article I read (can't find the link anymore), it pointed out that the US has 5% of the world's population and consumes 45% of the gasoline produced. Something's got to change. Marc Microsoft MVP, Visual C# MyXaml MyXaml Blog

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                                Marc Clifton wrote: Yes, in that article I read (can't find the link anymore), it pointed out that the US has 5% of the world's population and consumes 45% of the gasoline produced. I would like to see that in context. Assuming the numbers are accurate, the other 95% of the population do not all have gasoline-powered cars. The only way to make an accurate comparison would be to compare how many cars we have versus the amount of cars in all. For example, the U.S. has 15% of the world's cars, but uses 45% of the gasoline produced. That *might* reflect that the U.S. is using more than their fair share.


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                                  I read yesterday that Europe pays almost 3x what we pay here in the US for a gallon of gasoline. Why? Marc Microsoft MVP, Visual C# MyXaml MyXaml Blog

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                                  think Toyota Prius! Josef Wainz Software Developer

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                                    Heinz R. Vahlbruch wrote: We are told by the oil groups that currently prices are high because the US are buying gasoline on the European market. They say, that the US don't have enough resources and capacities to produce enough unleaded fuel for their own people. Yes, in that article I read (can't find the link anymore), it pointed out that the US has 5% of the world's population and consumes 45% of the gasoline produced. Something's got to change. Marc Microsoft MVP, Visual C# MyXaml MyXaml Blog

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                                    Colin Angus Mackay
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                                    Marc Clifton wrote: Something's got to change Most people are married to the concept of being able to drive their car. It is "transport democratisation" as I heard it called once. Although I don't drive nearly as much as I used to, I am planning to change to a Toyota Prius for my next car. It is a bit bigger that what I have now, but it gets better fuel economy, and qualifies for a cheaper tax band. [And if I ever go to London, I don't need to pay the congestion charge because it qualifies for excemption] As people start buying these cars the technology will get better and more efficient and hopefully it will be a stepping stone to wean everyone off petrol/deisel based combustion engines.


                                    "You can have everything in life you want if you will just help enough other people get what they want." --Zig Ziglar Coming soon: The Second EuroCPian Event

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                                    • M Marc Clifton

                                      I read yesterday that Europe pays almost 3x what we pay here in the US for a gallon of gasoline. Why? Marc Microsoft MVP, Visual C# MyXaml MyXaml Blog

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                                      Because Europeans are all Liberals. Tax the hell out of the people who drive the BAD BAD enviroment-endangering vehicles. http://www.knowledgegeek.com - Come on! I need the Traffic!

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                                        The efficiency of pure electric vehicles isn't that great. In fact, it is only marginally better than gasoline. And it might actually be less efficient than a hybrid engine, although I'm not sure about that. Remember, that electricity had to be generated somewhere. The generation and transmission process isn't that efficient. Fuel cells are the way to go. Unfortunately, they too require oil based fuels.* *That isn't necessarily true. They really only require hydrogen, but it can take more energy to extract hydrogen from a substance than what you get in return. It is relatively inexpensive to extract hydrogen from oil based fuels and the infrastructure is already in place.

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                                        Brian Gideon wrote: The efficiency of pure electric vehicles isn't that great. In fact, it is only marginally better than gasoline. I guess it depends on what your goal is, if you want non polluting vehicles that do not depend on petroleum based fuels, then a pure electric vehicle would be the most effecient unless we all used sail cars ;) Of course electricy can be generated from wind, solar, hydro, natural gas and even corn. If all cars were electric, oil would be cheaper than water. It would still be used for many things, but the oceans of oil that are still left would last until we began to make our own :) Brian Gideon wrote: And it might actually be less efficient than a hybrid engine, What kind of hybrid are you referring to? If it is a series hybrid, it uses the gas powered motor to power a generator that either powers the electric motor or charge the batteries depending on its condition. Brian Gideon wrote: Fuel cells are the way to go. Unfortunately, they too require oil based fuels.* Actually, you need electricty to produce hydrogen from water. In this model you do not need any petroleum based fuels at any point. Saw something on TechTV today that was cool. It is a invidual car transit system. Lot better than trains and allows a person to go to a target destination when they want to, not when the schedule says they can. Rocky <>< www.HintsAndTips.com www.GotTheAnswerToSpam.com

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                                          Marc Clifton wrote: Yes, in that article I read (can't find the link anymore), it pointed out that the US has 5% of the world's population and consumes 45% of the gasoline produced. I would like to see that in context. Assuming the numbers are accurate, the other 95% of the population do not all have gasoline-powered cars. The only way to make an accurate comparison would be to compare how many cars we have versus the amount of cars in all. For example, the U.S. has 15% of the world's cars, but uses 45% of the gasoline produced. That *might* reflect that the U.S. is using more than their fair share.


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                                          DavidCrow wrote: Marc Clifton wrote: Yes, in that article I read (can't find the link anymore), it pointed out that the US has 5% of the world's population and consumes 45% of the gasoline produced. I would like to see that in context. Assuming the numbers are accurate, the other 95% of the population do not all have gasoline-powered cars. [...] But the would like to have one. And at least the Chinese *will* have one in the near future. Then our Oil-Economy will get in serious trouble.


                                          "We trained hard, but it seemed that every time we were beginning to form up into teams we would be reorganised. I was to learn later in life that we tend to meet any new situation by reorganising: and a wonderful method it can be for creating the illusion of progress, while producing confusion, inefficiency and demoralisation." -- Caius Petronius, Roman Consul, 66 A.D.

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