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  • P pankajdaga

    but which is the best Java IDE out there? Pankaj /** I'm the one who's gonna have to die When it's time for me to die So let me live my life The way I want to - Jimi Hendrix */

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    Navin
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    Eclipse works well. It has good editors, and great refactoring capabilities. The best thing about it is that it's easily extendable... it is not too terribly difficult to write your own plug-ins. (Although it sometimes takes time to ferret out the information needed to do your particular task..) An expert is somebody who learns more and more about less and less, until he knows absolutely everything about nothing.

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    • P pankajdaga

      but which is the best Java IDE out there? Pankaj /** I'm the one who's gonna have to die When it's time for me to die So let me live my life The way I want to - Jimi Hendrix */

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      David Crow
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      It's not VisualAge from IBM.


      "When I was born I was so surprised that I didn't talk for a year and a half." - Gracie Allen

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      • P pankajdaga

        but which is the best Java IDE out there? Pankaj /** I'm the one who's gonna have to die When it's time for me to die So let me live my life The way I want to - Jimi Hendrix */

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        wrykyn
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        pankajdaga wrote: I know people will sneer :sneer: Sorry :-D couldn't resist. "One of the Georges," said Psmith, "I forget which, once said that a certain number of hours' sleep a day--I cannot recall for the moment how many--made a man something, which for the time being has slipped my memory."

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          pankajdaga wrote: I know people will sneer :sneer: Sorry :-D couldn't resist. "One of the Georges," said Psmith, "I forget which, once said that a certain number of hours' sleep a day--I cannot recall for the moment how many--made a man something, which for the time being has slipped my memory."

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          Johan Rosengren
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          I also want to join in on the sneers! :sneer: :sneer: :sneer:

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          • P pankajdaga

            but which is the best Java IDE out there? Pankaj /** I'm the one who's gonna have to die When it's time for me to die So let me live my life The way I want to - Jimi Hendrix */

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            David Stone
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            +1 for Eclipse. I love it...despite the fact that I dislike Java.


            Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?

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            • J Johan Rosengren

              I also want to join in on the sneers! :sneer: :sneer: :sneer:

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              wrykyn
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              Maybe its time Chris added another smiley for a :sneer: :) "One of the Georges," said Psmith, "I forget which, once said that a certain number of hours' sleep a day--I cannot recall for the moment how many--made a man something, which for the time being has slipped my memory."

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              • D Daniel Turini

                IntelliJ rocks. Fast, affordable, light, supports refactoring, and has a very, very smart editor. OTOH some people seem to love Eclipse, if you have a very powerful machine, it can be a good alternative. Yes, even I am blogging now!

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                Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                I second that. I miss the refactoring stuff in IntelliJ now that I've moved back to VS.NET. That stuff is addictive! -- Denn du bist, was du isst! Und ihr wisst, was es ist! Es ist mein Teil...?

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                • P pankajdaga

                  Hi Daniel, I just gave IntelliJ a run and I must agree withh you. It is definitely a great product. I think I am going to recommend it to our management :) Thanks, Pankaj P.S: I am pretty sure they will ignore all our recommendations and end up with emacs in the end ;P /** I'm the one who's gonna have to die When it's time for me to die So let me live my life The way I want to - Jimi Hendrix */

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                  Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                  IntelliJ is the best damn Java IDE I've ever used. You can quote me on that. :) I wish the CVS integration was a lot better though. Oh well, you can't have it all. At least there is Tortoise CVS and WinCVS to ease the pain. Good luck convincing the management! -- Denn du bist, was du isst! Und ihr wisst, was es ist! Es ist mein Teil...?

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                  • P pankajdaga

                    Hi Daniel, I just gave IntelliJ a run and I must agree withh you. It is definitely a great product. I think I am going to recommend it to our management :) Thanks, Pankaj P.S: I am pretty sure they will ignore all our recommendations and end up with emacs in the end ;P /** I'm the one who's gonna have to die When it's time for me to die So let me live my life The way I want to - Jimi Hendrix */

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                    Daniel Turini
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                    pankajdaga wrote: I just gave IntelliJ a run and I must agree withh you. It is definitely a great product. I'm glad you liked it. pankajdaga wrote: .S: I am pretty sure they will ignore all our recommendations and end up with emacs in the end For some weird reason management often seems to like Eclipse a lot. Did I say weird? No, it's not so weird: it's free! :) Yes, even I am blogging now!

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                    • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                      I second that. I miss the refactoring stuff in IntelliJ now that I've moved back to VS.NET. That stuff is addictive! -- Denn du bist, was du isst! Und ihr wisst, was es ist! Es ist mein Teil...?

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                      Daniel Turini
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                      They did a VS.NET plugin named "Resharper", which is almost as good as Resharper, but it still has a few stability problems... Yes, even I am blogging now!

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                      • D Daniel Turini

                        They did a VS.NET plugin named "Resharper", which is almost as good as Resharper, but it still has a few stability problems... Yes, even I am blogging now!

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                        Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                        Daniel Turini wrote: which is almost as good as Resharper as IntelliJ I suppose.. :-D Yes, I've heard about it. But I'm not touching it until they've fixed the nasty uninstallation bugs. A friend of mine got burnt when he tried to uninstall the trial. I directed him to your solution which you posted in the lounge a couple of days ago, but it wouldn't work for him (don't know the details). Unfortunately, resharper doesn't help me much, as I do C++. :sigh: -- Denn du bist, was du isst! Und ihr wisst, was es ist! Es ist mein Teil...?

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                        • B Brian Olej

                          JCreator[^] and Netbeans[^] are both good IDEs. Signature under construction.

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                          Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                          Netbeans is a resource hog of galactic proportions. X| -- Denn du bist, was du isst! Und ihr wisst, was es ist! Es ist mein Teil...?

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                          • D David Crow

                            It's not VisualAge from IBM.


                            "When I was born I was so surprised that I didn't talk for a year and a half." - Gracie Allen

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                            Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                            Is that your tool of choice force? ;) -- Denn du bist, was du isst! Und ihr wisst, was es ist! Es ist mein Teil...?

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                            • D David Stone

                              +1 for Eclipse. I love it...despite the fact that I dislike Java.


                              Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?

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                              Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                              It's probably because the GUI backend is native. ;) -- Denn du bist, was du isst! Und ihr wisst, was es ist! Es ist mein Teil...?

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                                Daniel Turini wrote: which is almost as good as Resharper as IntelliJ I suppose.. :-D Yes, I've heard about it. But I'm not touching it until they've fixed the nasty uninstallation bugs. A friend of mine got burnt when he tried to uninstall the trial. I directed him to your solution which you posted in the lounge a couple of days ago, but it wouldn't work for him (don't know the details). Unfortunately, resharper doesn't help me much, as I do C++. :sigh: -- Denn du bist, was du isst! Und ihr wisst, was es ist! Es ist mein Teil...?

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                                Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: as IntelliJ I suppose :doh: Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: Unfortunately, resharper doesn't help me much, as I do C++. C++ has too much metaprogramming, macros, and pointer aliasing that makes automated refactoring, at least on the same levels as IntelliJ, almost impossible. Yes, even I am blogging now!

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                                  Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: as IntelliJ I suppose :doh: Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: Unfortunately, resharper doesn't help me much, as I do C++. C++ has too much metaprogramming, macros, and pointer aliasing that makes automated refactoring, at least on the same levels as IntelliJ, almost impossible. Yes, even I am blogging now!

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                                  Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                                  Daniel Turini wrote: C++ has too much metaprogramming, macros, and pointer aliasing that makes automated refactoring, at least on the same levels as IntelliJ, almost impossible. Renaming classes and methods, in/outlining methods, virtualizing methods, should not be impossible. Apparently Visual Slickedit (I think that was the name of the editor) has C++ refactoring tools. Had Java and .NET never been invented, we'd be seeing tons of cool C++ editors today. :rolleyes: -- Denn du bist, was du isst! Und ihr wisst, was es ist! Es ist mein Teil...?

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                                  • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                                    Is that your tool of choice force? ;) -- Denn du bist, was du isst! Und ihr wisst, was es ist! Es ist mein Teil...?

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                                    David Crow
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                                    No, but it's what I have to use.


                                    "When I was born I was so surprised that I didn't talk for a year and a half." - Gracie Allen

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                                    • P pankajdaga

                                      but which is the best Java IDE out there? Pankaj /** I'm the one who's gonna have to die When it's time for me to die So let me live my life The way I want to - Jimi Hendrix */

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                                      J Dunlap
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                                      I haven't done a whole lot of Java work myself, but I have Eclipse and NetBeans, and they're both pretty good. I like Eclipse best because I studied its architecture and I know what's going on under the surface.

                                      "A people that values its privileges above its principles soon loses both."
                                      -- Dwight D. Eisenhower

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