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  • P pankajdaga

    Hi Daniel, I just gave IntelliJ a run and I must agree withh you. It is definitely a great product. I think I am going to recommend it to our management :) Thanks, Pankaj P.S: I am pretty sure they will ignore all our recommendations and end up with emacs in the end ;P /** I'm the one who's gonna have to die When it's time for me to die So let me live my life The way I want to - Jimi Hendrix */

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    Daniel Turini
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    pankajdaga wrote: I just gave IntelliJ a run and I must agree withh you. It is definitely a great product. I'm glad you liked it. pankajdaga wrote: .S: I am pretty sure they will ignore all our recommendations and end up with emacs in the end For some weird reason management often seems to like Eclipse a lot. Did I say weird? No, it's not so weird: it's free! :) Yes, even I am blogging now!

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    • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

      I second that. I miss the refactoring stuff in IntelliJ now that I've moved back to VS.NET. That stuff is addictive! -- Denn du bist, was du isst! Und ihr wisst, was es ist! Es ist mein Teil...?

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      They did a VS.NET plugin named "Resharper", which is almost as good as Resharper, but it still has a few stability problems... Yes, even I am blogging now!

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      • D Daniel Turini

        They did a VS.NET plugin named "Resharper", which is almost as good as Resharper, but it still has a few stability problems... Yes, even I am blogging now!

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        Daniel Turini wrote: which is almost as good as Resharper as IntelliJ I suppose.. :-D Yes, I've heard about it. But I'm not touching it until they've fixed the nasty uninstallation bugs. A friend of mine got burnt when he tried to uninstall the trial. I directed him to your solution which you posted in the lounge a couple of days ago, but it wouldn't work for him (don't know the details). Unfortunately, resharper doesn't help me much, as I do C++. :sigh: -- Denn du bist, was du isst! Und ihr wisst, was es ist! Es ist mein Teil...?

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        • B Brian Olej

          JCreator[^] and Netbeans[^] are both good IDEs. Signature under construction.

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          Jorgen Sigvardsson
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          Netbeans is a resource hog of galactic proportions. X| -- Denn du bist, was du isst! Und ihr wisst, was es ist! Es ist mein Teil...?

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          • D David Crow

            It's not VisualAge from IBM.


            "When I was born I was so surprised that I didn't talk for a year and a half." - Gracie Allen

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            Jorgen Sigvardsson
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            Is that your tool of choice force? ;) -- Denn du bist, was du isst! Und ihr wisst, was es ist! Es ist mein Teil...?

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            • D David Stone

              +1 for Eclipse. I love it...despite the fact that I dislike Java.


              Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?

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              It's probably because the GUI backend is native. ;) -- Denn du bist, was du isst! Und ihr wisst, was es ist! Es ist mein Teil...?

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              • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                Daniel Turini wrote: which is almost as good as Resharper as IntelliJ I suppose.. :-D Yes, I've heard about it. But I'm not touching it until they've fixed the nasty uninstallation bugs. A friend of mine got burnt when he tried to uninstall the trial. I directed him to your solution which you posted in the lounge a couple of days ago, but it wouldn't work for him (don't know the details). Unfortunately, resharper doesn't help me much, as I do C++. :sigh: -- Denn du bist, was du isst! Und ihr wisst, was es ist! Es ist mein Teil...?

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                Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: as IntelliJ I suppose :doh: Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: Unfortunately, resharper doesn't help me much, as I do C++. C++ has too much metaprogramming, macros, and pointer aliasing that makes automated refactoring, at least on the same levels as IntelliJ, almost impossible. Yes, even I am blogging now!

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                • D Daniel Turini

                  Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: as IntelliJ I suppose :doh: Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: Unfortunately, resharper doesn't help me much, as I do C++. C++ has too much metaprogramming, macros, and pointer aliasing that makes automated refactoring, at least on the same levels as IntelliJ, almost impossible. Yes, even I am blogging now!

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                  Daniel Turini wrote: C++ has too much metaprogramming, macros, and pointer aliasing that makes automated refactoring, at least on the same levels as IntelliJ, almost impossible. Renaming classes and methods, in/outlining methods, virtualizing methods, should not be impossible. Apparently Visual Slickedit (I think that was the name of the editor) has C++ refactoring tools. Had Java and .NET never been invented, we'd be seeing tons of cool C++ editors today. :rolleyes: -- Denn du bist, was du isst! Und ihr wisst, was es ist! Es ist mein Teil...?

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                  • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                    Is that your tool of choice force? ;) -- Denn du bist, was du isst! Und ihr wisst, was es ist! Es ist mein Teil...?

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                    David Crow
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                    No, but it's what I have to use.


                    "When I was born I was so surprised that I didn't talk for a year and a half." - Gracie Allen

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                    • P pankajdaga

                      but which is the best Java IDE out there? Pankaj /** I'm the one who's gonna have to die When it's time for me to die So let me live my life The way I want to - Jimi Hendrix */

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                      J Dunlap
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                      I haven't done a whole lot of Java work myself, but I have Eclipse and NetBeans, and they're both pretty good. I like Eclipse best because I studied its architecture and I know what's going on under the surface.

                      "A people that values its privileges above its principles soon loses both."
                      -- Dwight D. Eisenhower

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