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  • P Paul Watson

    Having just helped install a new PC for a friend and having to suggest various apps that I think she needs I thought it would be interesting to ask the experts what they find essential. Here is my list of apps that I cannot do without: - Macromedia Fireworks - Jasc Paint Shop Pro - WinZip - MS Outlook - MS Word - MS Visio - Visual Interdev - SQL Enterprise Manager - CuteFTP - ICQ - Sonork - Acrobat - MS Internet Explorer - Netscape - Notepad (so handy!) - Terminal Services Seeing as most of my development is ASP, HTML and JavaScript I don't need much in the way of debugging tools or compilers. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge

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    Jon Sagara
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    Here's my list of necessary appz:

    • MS Office
    • SSH v3.0
    • WS FTP_LE
    • Macromedia Homesite
    • Adobe Photoshop
    • Microsoft Money
    • MSN/Yahoo! Messenger/ICQ
    • NAV
    • WinZip
    • Winamp
    • ACDC
    • IE 6
    • Visual Studio 6
    • Visual Assist

    Jon Sagara "There are lies, damned lies and statistics." -- Mark Twain.

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      Here's my list of necessary appz:

      • MS Office
      • SSH v3.0
      • WS FTP_LE
      • Macromedia Homesite
      • Adobe Photoshop
      • Microsoft Money
      • MSN/Yahoo! Messenger/ICQ
      • NAV
      • WinZip
      • Winamp
      • ACDC
      • IE 6
      • Visual Studio 6
      • Visual Assist

      Jon Sagara "There are lies, damned lies and statistics." -- Mark Twain.

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      Nish Nishant
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      By ACDC I presume you meant ACD Sea. If so,I used to use that, but its actually shareware. SlowView is freeware, and provides the same functionality. Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut

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        By ACDC I presume you meant ACD Sea. If so,I used to use that, but its actually shareware. SlowView is freeware, and provides the same functionality. Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut

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        Jon Sagara
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        I'm using an *old* version. The new versions have too much crap intergrated into them. I'll have to check out SlowView, though. Thanks for the tip. :) Jon Sagara "There are lies, damned lies and statistics." -- Mark Twain.

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          I'm using an *old* version. The new versions have too much crap intergrated into them. I'll have to check out SlowView, though. Thanks for the tip. :) Jon Sagara "There are lies, damned lies and statistics." -- Mark Twain.

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          Nish Nishant
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          Jon Sagara wrote: I'm using an *old* version Oh! The DOS version I bet. Yeah that was good. Jon Sagara wrote: I'll have to check out SlowView, though. The URL is http://www.slowview.f2s.com/ Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut

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            Mine would be

            1. Visual Studio 6.0/service packs
            2. IE 6.0
            3. Visual Studio.NET
            4. Winzip
            5. Ws_FTP
            6. Paint Shop pro 7
            7. Office 2000
            8. Swish
            9. Yahoo Messenger
            10. Sonork
            11. Adobe Acrobat Reader
            12. FaberToys
            13. In Control
            14. FlashGet [much better than Getright]
            15. Pop 3 Protector ;-)
            16. Google toolbar
            17. TweakUI
            18. SlowView [image viewer thats not slow at all]
            19. TweakUI
            20. Windows Media Player 7.1 [I stopped using Winamp]

            Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut

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            Paul Watson
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            Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: Swish Is Swish any good? I use Flash most of the time but have been hearing good things about the new version of Swish. Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: Google toolbar Oh yeah! Me too, absolutely essential piece of software that. I wonder how I survived without it before it came out? Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: TweakUI Very handy stuff in it. The PowerToys for WXP are also pretty good. Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: Windows Media Player 7.1 Give RealONE a whirl. It is far better than WMP (though you have to pay a monthly fee for RealONE after the 14 day trial is over) regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge

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              Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: Swish Is Swish any good? I use Flash most of the time but have been hearing good things about the new version of Swish. Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: Google toolbar Oh yeah! Me too, absolutely essential piece of software that. I wonder how I survived without it before it came out? Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: TweakUI Very handy stuff in it. The PowerToys for WXP are also pretty good. Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: Windows Media Player 7.1 Give RealONE a whirl. It is far better than WMP (though you have to pay a monthly fee for RealONE after the 14 day trial is over) regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge

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              Paul Watson wrote: Give RealONE a whirl. It is far better than WMP (though you have to pay a monthly fee for RealONE after the 14 day trial is over) What's the URL? Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut

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                Paul Watson wrote: Give RealONE a whirl. It is far better than WMP (though you have to pay a monthly fee for RealONE after the 14 day trial is over) What's the URL? Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut

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                RealONE 14 day trial. BTW you have to enter your credit card details along the line. If you go over 14 days without cancelling they charge you the $14.95 setup and then $9.95 a month after that. Here are the terms and conditions, you decide whether to risk it :) Terms and Conditions of the RealOneā„¢ Trial: + Your first 14 days are FREE! Explore the exclusive programming and premium player features of the RealOne subscription as much as you want during your FREE TRIAL period + Free trial access begins at trial sign-up and expires fourteen days following trial sign-up. + You will NOT be charged during your trial period + To avoid the monthly $9.95 RealOne membership fee after your trial has expired, just call to cancel any time within the 14 day trial period. + For subscription information, including how to cancel your subscription, visit the My Account area. For technical support, please email Also please note: + RealNetworks may modify or withdraw this trial offer at any time + RealNetworks may, at its sole discretion, change the features and services offered in the RealOne player and/or service at any time. + The terms and conditions governing your use of the RealOne are described in the End User License Agreement, which you must accept in order to download and install the RealOne Player. I have emailed them already telling them to make a free version of RealONE which just plays the media. I don't want all the other bits of it, just the player and playlist manager. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge

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                  RealONE 14 day trial. BTW you have to enter your credit card details along the line. If you go over 14 days without cancelling they charge you the $14.95 setup and then $9.95 a month after that. Here are the terms and conditions, you decide whether to risk it :) Terms and Conditions of the RealOneā„¢ Trial: + Your first 14 days are FREE! Explore the exclusive programming and premium player features of the RealOne subscription as much as you want during your FREE TRIAL period + Free trial access begins at trial sign-up and expires fourteen days following trial sign-up. + You will NOT be charged during your trial period + To avoid the monthly $9.95 RealOne membership fee after your trial has expired, just call to cancel any time within the 14 day trial period. + For subscription information, including how to cancel your subscription, visit the My Account area. For technical support, please email Also please note: + RealNetworks may modify or withdraw this trial offer at any time + RealNetworks may, at its sole discretion, change the features and services offered in the RealOne player and/or service at any time. + The terms and conditions governing your use of the RealOne are described in the End User License Agreement, which you must accept in order to download and install the RealOne Player. I have emailed them already telling them to make a free version of RealONE which just plays the media. I don't want all the other bits of it, just the player and playlist manager. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge

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                  Nish Nishant
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                  Gosh!!! They are doing a bad job at marketing that thing. I was so put off by the terms and conditions that I didnt even bother to check out the URL Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut

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                    Gosh!!! They are doing a bad job at marketing that thing. I was so put off by the terms and conditions that I didnt even bother to check out the URL Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut

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                    Paul Watson
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                    I totally agree Nish. The horrible bit is that the RealONE player is really, really good. I am very close to even signing up for the monthly service just so that I can continue using the player. I hate it when a good product is killed off by stupid business and marketing practices. :mad: regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge

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                      I totally agree Nish. The horrible bit is that the RealONE player is really, really good. I am very close to even signing up for the monthly service just so that I can continue using the player. I hate it when a good product is killed off by stupid business and marketing practices. :mad: regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge

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                      My god... $10 a month just to use a media player? That's $120 a year. Would you pay $120 for Winamp? Or any other media player? $240 for 2 years... that's more expensive than Windows itself. I refuse to ever use Real products. Every Real product i've ever installed has broken something, then they had the GALL to testify before a senate committee that MS intentionally broke THEIR software (when it turns out it was actuall a bug in THEIR code). -- Where are we going? And why am I in this handbasket?

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                        My god... $10 a month just to use a media player? That's $120 a year. Would you pay $120 for Winamp? Or any other media player? $240 for 2 years... that's more expensive than Windows itself. I refuse to ever use Real products. Every Real product i've ever installed has broken something, then they had the GALL to testify before a senate committee that MS intentionally broke THEIR software (when it turns out it was actuall a bug in THEIR code). -- Where are we going? And why am I in this handbasket?

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                        Paul Watson
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                        Erik Funkenbusch wrote: My god... $10 a month just to use a media player? No, not quite. RealONE is a whole music service. You get a the media player software which I think is very good. Then you get the ability to download music (I think 25 songs a month), plus videos, radio stations etc. That is what you are paying $9.95 a month for. So if you have broadband it is really good value. You are not paying for the software though, not really. Erik Funkenbusch wrote: I refuse to ever use Real products. Every Real product i've ever installed has broken something I agree with you on every product they have made, except for RealONE. It is a really good media player. It does not install other programmes without asking nor does it break anything. I think they fired their whole dev team and got a new one for RealONE :) I still don't like Real much though. Have we found a company to hate more than MS? WOW! hehe regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge

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                        • P Paul Watson

                          Having just helped install a new PC for a friend and having to suggest various apps that I think she needs I thought it would be interesting to ask the experts what they find essential. Here is my list of apps that I cannot do without: - Macromedia Fireworks - Jasc Paint Shop Pro - WinZip - MS Outlook - MS Word - MS Visio - Visual Interdev - SQL Enterprise Manager - CuteFTP - ICQ - Sonork - Acrobat - MS Internet Explorer - Netscape - Notepad (so handy!) - Terminal Services Seeing as most of my development is ASP, HTML and JavaScript I don't need much in the way of debugging tools or compilers. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge

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                          The apps I cannot do without include (in no specific order): - WinCVS 1.2 - MSVC 6 - UltraEdit 8.1 - WMP8 - Paint Shop Pro 6 - HTML Help Workshop - Wise InstallMaster 7 - Telnet (the GUI version lifted from Win98! - not the NT console version) - IE6 - Nero 5.x - InCD 3.x (the built-in XP CD-RW support sucks) - MS Money 2002 - MS FrontPage - Kerridge Mail 3.x - Google toolbar for IE - CodeProject toolbar for IE :)

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                            Mine would be

                            1. Visual Studio 6.0/service packs
                            2. IE 6.0
                            3. Visual Studio.NET
                            4. Winzip
                            5. Ws_FTP
                            6. Paint Shop pro 7
                            7. Office 2000
                            8. Swish
                            9. Yahoo Messenger
                            10. Sonork
                            11. Adobe Acrobat Reader
                            12. FaberToys
                            13. In Control
                            14. FlashGet [much better than Getright]
                            15. Pop 3 Protector ;-)
                            16. Google toolbar
                            17. TweakUI
                            18. SlowView [image viewer thats not slow at all]
                            19. TweakUI
                            20. Windows Media Player 7.1 [I stopped using Winamp]

                            Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut

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                            >>I stopped using Winamp<< What's wrong with WinAmp? Why WMP 7.1 is better? thanks, SlavoF "I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand." --Confucius

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                              >>I stopped using Winamp<< What's wrong with WinAmp? Why WMP 7.1 is better? thanks, SlavoF "I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand." --Confucius

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                              Nish Nishant
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                              Slavo Furman wrote: What's wrong with WinAmp? Why WMP 7.1 is better? Well, WMP 7.1 supports more media file formats including DivX. I believe Winamp is basically an audio player rather than a full-fledged media player Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut

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                                Having just helped install a new PC for a friend and having to suggest various apps that I think she needs I thought it would be interesting to ask the experts what they find essential. Here is my list of apps that I cannot do without: - Macromedia Fireworks - Jasc Paint Shop Pro - WinZip - MS Outlook - MS Word - MS Visio - Visual Interdev - SQL Enterprise Manager - CuteFTP - ICQ - Sonork - Acrobat - MS Internet Explorer - Netscape - Notepad (so handy!) - Terminal Services Seeing as most of my development is ASP, HTML and JavaScript I don't need much in the way of debugging tools or compilers. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge

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                                You've forgotten the most important app MS Visual C++! Normski. - Professional Windows Programmer

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                                  Having just helped install a new PC for a friend and having to suggest various apps that I think she needs I thought it would be interesting to ask the experts what they find essential. Here is my list of apps that I cannot do without: - Macromedia Fireworks - Jasc Paint Shop Pro - WinZip - MS Outlook - MS Word - MS Visio - Visual Interdev - SQL Enterprise Manager - CuteFTP - ICQ - Sonork - Acrobat - MS Internet Explorer - Netscape - Notepad (so handy!) - Terminal Services Seeing as most of my development is ASP, HTML and JavaScript I don't need much in the way of debugging tools or compilers. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge

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                                  Probably: - mIRC - VC ++ (even when not hacking, I love the html "syntax" coloring!) - MSDOS Prompt - IE 5 - WinZip - PSP 5 :suss: -Jason nirgle.bitdevil.com

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                                    Probably: - mIRC - VC ++ (even when not hacking, I love the html "syntax" coloring!) - MSDOS Prompt - IE 5 - WinZip - PSP 5 :suss: -Jason nirgle.bitdevil.com

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                                    Jason Hooper wrote: MSDOS Prompt :laugh: oh so true! Even with the fancy GUIs of today the good old prompt is invaluable. Jason Hooper wrote: mIRC You are an addict too huh? I was but I have been IRC free for two years now *the room claps* hehe regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge

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                                      You've forgotten the most important app MS Visual C++! Normski. - Professional Windows Programmer

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                                      Norm Almond wrote: You've forgotten the most important app MS Visual C++! Me no comprendai C++, me do ASP. Me no want C++. C++ not the future... ;P regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge

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                                        Mine would be

                                        1. Visual Studio 6.0/service packs
                                        2. IE 6.0
                                        3. Visual Studio.NET
                                        4. Winzip
                                        5. Ws_FTP
                                        6. Paint Shop pro 7
                                        7. Office 2000
                                        8. Swish
                                        9. Yahoo Messenger
                                        10. Sonork
                                        11. Adobe Acrobat Reader
                                        12. FaberToys
                                        13. In Control
                                        14. FlashGet [much better than Getright]
                                        15. Pop 3 Protector ;-)
                                        16. Google toolbar
                                        17. TweakUI
                                        18. SlowView [image viewer thats not slow at all]
                                        19. TweakUI
                                        20. Windows Media Player 7.1 [I stopped using Winamp]

                                        Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut

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                                        Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                                        Here's mine:

                                        • Visual C++ 6.0/service packs
                                        • IE 6.0
                                        • WinZip
                                        • Office 97 (OK, so I'm too tight to upgrade :rolleyes: )
                                        • Dreamweaver 1.2 (free version!)
                                        • Windows Media Player 7.1
                                        • ZoneAlarm Pro
                                        • McAfee VirusScan 5.21
                                        • MSN Messenger 4.5
                                        • SmartFTP
                                        • ClickTeam InstallMaker
                                        • ClickTeam SynchronX
                                        • Adobe Acrobat Reader
                                        • WndTabs 3.05 VC add-in
                                        • ResOrg 1.4 VC add-in
                                        • Folder Size Shell Extension 3.0
                                        • CleanEx Shell Extension
                                        • CodeProject Toolbar
                                        • Google Toolbar

                                        I've probably forgot a few, but that's the basics at least :) Andy Metcalfe - Sonardyne International Ltd

                                        Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Add-In for Visual C++ 5.0/6.0
                                        "I'm just another 'S' bend in the internet. A ton of stuff goes through my system, and some of the hairer, stickier and lumpier stuff sticks." - Chris Maunder (I just couldn't let that one past ;))

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                                        • P Paul Watson

                                          Having just helped install a new PC for a friend and having to suggest various apps that I think she needs I thought it would be interesting to ask the experts what they find essential. Here is my list of apps that I cannot do without: - Macromedia Fireworks - Jasc Paint Shop Pro - WinZip - MS Outlook - MS Word - MS Visio - Visual Interdev - SQL Enterprise Manager - CuteFTP - ICQ - Sonork - Acrobat - MS Internet Explorer - Netscape - Notepad (so handy!) - Terminal Services Seeing as most of my development is ASP, HTML and JavaScript I don't need much in the way of debugging tools or compilers. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge

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                                          Paint Shop Pro WinZip AbsoluteFTP Eudora UltraEdit VC6 "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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