Apps you cannot do without
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Gosh!!! They are doing a bad job at marketing that thing. I was so put off by the terms and conditions that I didnt even bother to check out the URL Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut
I totally agree Nish. The horrible bit is that the RealONE player is really, really good. I am very close to even signing up for the monthly service just so that I can continue using the player. I hate it when a good product is killed off by stupid business and marketing practices. :mad: regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge
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I totally agree Nish. The horrible bit is that the RealONE player is really, really good. I am very close to even signing up for the monthly service just so that I can continue using the player. I hate it when a good product is killed off by stupid business and marketing practices. :mad: regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge
My god... $10 a month just to use a media player? That's $120 a year. Would you pay $120 for Winamp? Or any other media player? $240 for 2 years... that's more expensive than Windows itself. I refuse to ever use Real products. Every Real product i've ever installed has broken something, then they had the GALL to testify before a senate committee that MS intentionally broke THEIR software (when it turns out it was actuall a bug in THEIR code). -- Where are we going? And why am I in this handbasket?
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My god... $10 a month just to use a media player? That's $120 a year. Would you pay $120 for Winamp? Or any other media player? $240 for 2 years... that's more expensive than Windows itself. I refuse to ever use Real products. Every Real product i've ever installed has broken something, then they had the GALL to testify before a senate committee that MS intentionally broke THEIR software (when it turns out it was actuall a bug in THEIR code). -- Where are we going? And why am I in this handbasket?
Erik Funkenbusch wrote: My god... $10 a month just to use a media player? No, not quite. RealONE is a whole music service. You get a the media player software which I think is very good. Then you get the ability to download music (I think 25 songs a month), plus videos, radio stations etc. That is what you are paying $9.95 a month for. So if you have broadband it is really good value. You are not paying for the software though, not really. Erik Funkenbusch wrote: I refuse to ever use Real products. Every Real product i've ever installed has broken something I agree with you on every product they have made, except for RealONE. It is a really good media player. It does not install other programmes without asking nor does it break anything. I think they fired their whole dev team and got a new one for RealONE :) I still don't like Real much though. Have we found a company to hate more than MS? WOW! hehe regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge
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Having just helped install a new PC for a friend and having to suggest various apps that I think she needs I thought it would be interesting to ask the experts what they find essential. Here is my list of apps that I cannot do without: - Macromedia Fireworks - Jasc Paint Shop Pro - WinZip - MS Outlook - MS Word - MS Visio - Visual Interdev - SQL Enterprise Manager - CuteFTP - ICQ - Sonork - Acrobat - MS Internet Explorer - Netscape - Notepad (so handy!) - Terminal Services Seeing as most of my development is ASP, HTML and JavaScript I don't need much in the way of debugging tools or compilers. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge
The apps I cannot do without include (in no specific order): - WinCVS 1.2 - MSVC 6 - UltraEdit 8.1 - WMP8 - Paint Shop Pro 6 - HTML Help Workshop - Wise InstallMaster 7 - Telnet (the GUI version lifted from Win98! - not the NT console version) - IE6 - Nero 5.x - InCD 3.x (the built-in XP CD-RW support sucks) - MS Money 2002 - MS FrontPage - Kerridge Mail 3.x - Google toolbar for IE - CodeProject toolbar for IE :)
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Mine would be
- Visual Studio 6.0/service packs
- IE 6.0
- Visual Studio.NET
- Winzip
- Ws_FTP
- Paint Shop pro 7
- Office 2000
- Swish
- Yahoo Messenger
- Sonork
- Adobe Acrobat Reader
- FaberToys
- In Control
- FlashGet [much better than Getright]
- Pop 3 Protector ;-)
- Google toolbar
- TweakUI
- SlowView [image viewer thats not slow at all]
- TweakUI
- Windows Media Player 7.1 [I stopped using Winamp]
Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut
>>I stopped using Winamp<< What's wrong with WinAmp? Why WMP 7.1 is better? thanks, SlavoF "I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand." --Confucius
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>>I stopped using Winamp<< What's wrong with WinAmp? Why WMP 7.1 is better? thanks, SlavoF "I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand." --Confucius
Slavo Furman wrote: What's wrong with WinAmp? Why WMP 7.1 is better? Well, WMP 7.1 supports more media file formats including DivX. I believe Winamp is basically an audio player rather than a full-fledged media player Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut
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Having just helped install a new PC for a friend and having to suggest various apps that I think she needs I thought it would be interesting to ask the experts what they find essential. Here is my list of apps that I cannot do without: - Macromedia Fireworks - Jasc Paint Shop Pro - WinZip - MS Outlook - MS Word - MS Visio - Visual Interdev - SQL Enterprise Manager - CuteFTP - ICQ - Sonork - Acrobat - MS Internet Explorer - Netscape - Notepad (so handy!) - Terminal Services Seeing as most of my development is ASP, HTML and JavaScript I don't need much in the way of debugging tools or compilers. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge
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Having just helped install a new PC for a friend and having to suggest various apps that I think she needs I thought it would be interesting to ask the experts what they find essential. Here is my list of apps that I cannot do without: - Macromedia Fireworks - Jasc Paint Shop Pro - WinZip - MS Outlook - MS Word - MS Visio - Visual Interdev - SQL Enterprise Manager - CuteFTP - ICQ - Sonork - Acrobat - MS Internet Explorer - Netscape - Notepad (so handy!) - Terminal Services Seeing as most of my development is ASP, HTML and JavaScript I don't need much in the way of debugging tools or compilers. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge
Probably: - mIRC - VC ++ (even when not hacking, I love the html "syntax" coloring!) - MSDOS Prompt - IE 5 - WinZip - PSP 5 :suss: -Jason nirgle.bitdevil.com
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Probably: - mIRC - VC ++ (even when not hacking, I love the html "syntax" coloring!) - MSDOS Prompt - IE 5 - WinZip - PSP 5 :suss: -Jason nirgle.bitdevil.com
Jason Hooper wrote: MSDOS Prompt :laugh: oh so true! Even with the fancy GUIs of today the good old prompt is invaluable. Jason Hooper wrote: mIRC You are an addict too huh? I was but I have been IRC free for two years now *the room claps* hehe regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge
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You've forgotten the most important app MS Visual C++! Normski. - Professional Windows Programmer
Norm Almond wrote: You've forgotten the most important app MS Visual C++! Me no comprendai C++, me do ASP. Me no want C++. C++ not the future... ;P regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge
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Mine would be
- Visual Studio 6.0/service packs
- IE 6.0
- Visual Studio.NET
- Winzip
- Ws_FTP
- Paint Shop pro 7
- Office 2000
- Swish
- Yahoo Messenger
- Sonork
- Adobe Acrobat Reader
- FaberToys
- In Control
- FlashGet [much better than Getright]
- Pop 3 Protector ;-)
- Google toolbar
- TweakUI
- SlowView [image viewer thats not slow at all]
- TweakUI
- Windows Media Player 7.1 [I stopped using Winamp]
Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut
Here's mine:
- Visual C++ 6.0/service packs
- IE 6.0
- WinZip
- Office 97 (OK, so I'm too tight to upgrade :rolleyes: )
- Dreamweaver 1.2 (free version!)
- Windows Media Player 7.1
- ZoneAlarm Pro
- McAfee VirusScan 5.21
- MSN Messenger 4.5
- SmartFTP
- ClickTeam InstallMaker
- ClickTeam SynchronX
- Adobe Acrobat Reader
- WndTabs 3.05 VC add-in
- ResOrg 1.4 VC add-in
- Folder Size Shell Extension 3.0
- CleanEx Shell Extension
- CodeProject Toolbar
- Google Toolbar
I've probably forgot a few, but that's the basics at least :) Andy Metcalfe - Sonardyne International Ltd
Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Add-In for Visual C++ 5.0/6.0
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Having just helped install a new PC for a friend and having to suggest various apps that I think she needs I thought it would be interesting to ask the experts what they find essential. Here is my list of apps that I cannot do without: - Macromedia Fireworks - Jasc Paint Shop Pro - WinZip - MS Outlook - MS Word - MS Visio - Visual Interdev - SQL Enterprise Manager - CuteFTP - ICQ - Sonork - Acrobat - MS Internet Explorer - Netscape - Notepad (so handy!) - Terminal Services Seeing as most of my development is ASP, HTML and JavaScript I don't need much in the way of debugging tools or compilers. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge
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Norm Almond wrote: You've forgotten the most important app MS Visual C++! Me no comprendai C++, me do ASP. Me no want C++. C++ not the future... ;P regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge
Paul Watson wrote: Me no comprendai C++, me do ASP. Me no want C++. C++ not the future... :omg: and ASP is the future, how niave of you ;P Come on Paul, lets wait until .NET is released before we can speculate on what the future holds. The best growths in the computer industries and Graphics Hardware and 3D programming, so it looks like ASP is *not* the future. ;) Maybe you should learn OpenGL or DirectX (yuk!) Normski. - Professional Windows Programmer
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Having just helped install a new PC for a friend and having to suggest various apps that I think she needs I thought it would be interesting to ask the experts what they find essential. Here is my list of apps that I cannot do without: - Macromedia Fireworks - Jasc Paint Shop Pro - WinZip - MS Outlook - MS Word - MS Visio - Visual Interdev - SQL Enterprise Manager - CuteFTP - ICQ - Sonork - Acrobat - MS Internet Explorer - Netscape - Notepad (so handy!) - Terminal Services Seeing as most of my development is ASP, HTML and JavaScript I don't need much in the way of debugging tools or compilers. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge
-MS Word -MS Excel -Putty -CuteFTP -WinAMP -Textpad -Toad -PVCS -Outlook -MS Visual C++ -MS Visual Basic -MS Internet Explorer -Paint Shop Pro -MS Embedded Visual Tools -MSDN -McAfee Virus Scan Regards Ray "Je Suis Mort De Rire"
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Paul Watson wrote: Me no comprendai C++, me do ASP. Me no want C++. C++ not the future... :omg: and ASP is the future, how niave of you ;P Come on Paul, lets wait until .NET is released before we can speculate on what the future holds. The best growths in the computer industries and Graphics Hardware and 3D programming, so it looks like ASP is *not* the future. ;) Maybe you should learn OpenGL or DirectX (yuk!) Normski. - Professional Windows Programmer
Norm Almond wrote: and ASP is the future, how niave of you I definitley do not think ASP is the future either. I still don't think though that C++ is either. Speculation is exactly that, so I shall speculate that .NET is the future, especially the ASP.NET component. ASP.NET is out of this world. 3d programming in business apps? Oh sure, they will go for that X| Norm Almond wrote: Maybe you should learn OpenGL or DirectX While I am at it I will also have root canal and an anal probe ;P regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge
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Paul Watson wrote: Me no comprendai C++, me do ASP. Me no want C++. C++ not the future... :omg: and ASP is the future, how niave of you ;P Come on Paul, lets wait until .NET is released before we can speculate on what the future holds. The best growths in the computer industries and Graphics Hardware and 3D programming, so it looks like ASP is *not* the future. ;) Maybe you should learn OpenGL or DirectX (yuk!) Normski. - Professional Windows Programmer
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Having just helped install a new PC for a friend and having to suggest various apps that I think she needs I thought it would be interesting to ask the experts what they find essential. Here is my list of apps that I cannot do without: - Macromedia Fireworks - Jasc Paint Shop Pro - WinZip - MS Outlook - MS Word - MS Visio - Visual Interdev - SQL Enterprise Manager - CuteFTP - ICQ - Sonork - Acrobat - MS Internet Explorer - Netscape - Notepad (so handy!) - Terminal Services Seeing as most of my development is ASP, HTML and JavaScript I don't need much in the way of debugging tools or compilers. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge
OK, we have covered a lot of the basics. Here are several I have not seen listed. Editor - PFE Unistall - Remove4Good - Gets rid of entries of programs that are already gone and whose names were left (Thanks to install shield failing if the user moved the menu.) Screen Capture - Hypersnap System info - Tweaking Tool Box for Windows. Michael A. Barnhart mabtech@swbell.net
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Norm Almond wrote: and ASP is the future, how niave of you I definitley do not think ASP is the future either. I still don't think though that C++ is either. Speculation is exactly that, so I shall speculate that .NET is the future, especially the ASP.NET component. ASP.NET is out of this world. 3d programming in business apps? Oh sure, they will go for that X| Norm Almond wrote: Maybe you should learn OpenGL or DirectX While I am at it I will also have root canal and an anal probe ;P regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge
ROFLOL :-D Nice one, seriously though if we knew what the future held, we'd be Millionaires. Different tools for different jobs, you could'nt write a Word processor in ASP and I couldn't write a e-commerce application in C++. Normski. - Professional Windows Programmer
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OK, we have covered a lot of the basics. Here are several I have not seen listed. Editor - PFE Unistall - Remove4Good - Gets rid of entries of programs that are already gone and whose names were left (Thanks to install shield failing if the user moved the menu.) Screen Capture - Hypersnap System info - Tweaking Tool Box for Windows. Michael A. Barnhart mabtech@swbell.net
Michael.A.Barnhart wrote: Unistall - Remove4Good - Gets rid of entries of programs that are already gone and whose names were left (Thanks to install shield failing if the user moved the menu.) Does that programme actually work? I have heard claims but never really tested them out. Also does anyone not change the start menu structure? I know I put my apps into a very different menu structure to the default. It confuses uninstall apps like hell though. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge
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ROFLOL :-D Nice one, seriously though if we knew what the future held, we'd be Millionaires. Different tools for different jobs, you could'nt write a Word processor in ASP and I couldn't write a e-commerce application in C++. Normski. - Professional Windows Programmer
Norm Almond wrote: Different tools for different jobs, you could'nt write a Word processor in ASP and I couldn't write a e-commerce application in C++. I knew a guy who wrote all the back-end processing for an e-commerce application in C++. It was pretty good and very fast. The front-end was all ASP and HTML of course. Also our web content management system has a Word like content editing application with spell checking, full formatting, importing, exporting etc. Much like using Word, only not as infuriating. It is written all in ASP with XML/XSL and a SQL back-end. Of course it uses a VB COM component for the hard stuff but you would be amazed what you can do with Internet Explorer, DHTML and a COM component. You can make a very good UI in a web browser and the COM component does all the data crunching bits. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge
