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  • J Jason Hooper

    Probably: - mIRC - VC ++ (even when not hacking, I love the html "syntax" coloring!) - MSDOS Prompt - IE 5 - WinZip - PSP 5 :suss: -Jason nirgle.bitdevil.com

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    Jason Hooper wrote: MSDOS Prompt :laugh: oh so true! Even with the fancy GUIs of today the good old prompt is invaluable. Jason Hooper wrote: mIRC You are an addict too huh? I was but I have been IRC free for two years now *the room claps* hehe regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge

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    • N NormDroid

      You've forgotten the most important app MS Visual C++! Normski. - Professional Windows Programmer

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      Norm Almond wrote: You've forgotten the most important app MS Visual C++! Me no comprendai C++, me do ASP. Me no want C++. C++ not the future... ;P regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge

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        Mine would be

        1. Visual Studio 6.0/service packs
        2. IE 6.0
        3. Visual Studio.NET
        4. Winzip
        5. Ws_FTP
        6. Paint Shop pro 7
        7. Office 2000
        8. Swish
        9. Yahoo Messenger
        10. Sonork
        11. Adobe Acrobat Reader
        12. FaberToys
        13. In Control
        14. FlashGet [much better than Getright]
        15. Pop 3 Protector ;-)
        16. Google toolbar
        17. TweakUI
        18. SlowView [image viewer thats not slow at all]
        19. TweakUI
        20. Windows Media Player 7.1 [I stopped using Winamp]

        Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut

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        Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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        Here's mine:

        • Visual C++ 6.0/service packs
        • IE 6.0
        • WinZip
        • Office 97 (OK, so I'm too tight to upgrade :rolleyes: )
        • Dreamweaver 1.2 (free version!)
        • Windows Media Player 7.1
        • ZoneAlarm Pro
        • McAfee VirusScan 5.21
        • MSN Messenger 4.5
        • SmartFTP
        • ClickTeam InstallMaker
        • ClickTeam SynchronX
        • Adobe Acrobat Reader
        • WndTabs 3.05 VC add-in
        • ResOrg 1.4 VC add-in
        • Folder Size Shell Extension 3.0
        • CleanEx Shell Extension
        • CodeProject Toolbar
        • Google Toolbar

        I've probably forgot a few, but that's the basics at least :) Andy Metcalfe - Sonardyne International Ltd

        Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Add-In for Visual C++ 5.0/6.0
        "I'm just another 'S' bend in the internet. A ton of stuff goes through my system, and some of the hairer, stickier and lumpier stuff sticks." - Chris Maunder (I just couldn't let that one past ;))

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        • P Paul Watson

          Having just helped install a new PC for a friend and having to suggest various apps that I think she needs I thought it would be interesting to ask the experts what they find essential. Here is my list of apps that I cannot do without: - Macromedia Fireworks - Jasc Paint Shop Pro - WinZip - MS Outlook - MS Word - MS Visio - Visual Interdev - SQL Enterprise Manager - CuteFTP - ICQ - Sonork - Acrobat - MS Internet Explorer - Netscape - Notepad (so handy!) - Terminal Services Seeing as most of my development is ASP, HTML and JavaScript I don't need much in the way of debugging tools or compilers. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge

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          Paint Shop Pro WinZip AbsoluteFTP Eudora UltraEdit VC6 "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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          • P Paul Watson

            Norm Almond wrote: You've forgotten the most important app MS Visual C++! Me no comprendai C++, me do ASP. Me no want C++. C++ not the future... ;P regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge

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            Paul Watson wrote: Me no comprendai C++, me do ASP. Me no want C++. C++ not the future... :omg: and ASP is the future, how niave of you ;P Come on Paul, lets wait until .NET is released before we can speculate on what the future holds. The best growths in the computer industries and Graphics Hardware and 3D programming, so it looks like ASP is *not* the future. ;) Maybe you should learn OpenGL or DirectX (yuk!) Normski. - Professional Windows Programmer

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              Having just helped install a new PC for a friend and having to suggest various apps that I think she needs I thought it would be interesting to ask the experts what they find essential. Here is my list of apps that I cannot do without: - Macromedia Fireworks - Jasc Paint Shop Pro - WinZip - MS Outlook - MS Word - MS Visio - Visual Interdev - SQL Enterprise Manager - CuteFTP - ICQ - Sonork - Acrobat - MS Internet Explorer - Netscape - Notepad (so handy!) - Terminal Services Seeing as most of my development is ASP, HTML and JavaScript I don't need much in the way of debugging tools or compilers. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge

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              -MS Word -MS Excel -Putty -CuteFTP -WinAMP -Textpad -Toad -PVCS -Outlook -MS Visual C++ -MS Visual Basic -MS Internet Explorer -Paint Shop Pro -MS Embedded Visual Tools -MSDN -McAfee Virus Scan Regards Ray "Je Suis Mort De Rire"

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                Paul Watson wrote: Me no comprendai C++, me do ASP. Me no want C++. C++ not the future... :omg: and ASP is the future, how niave of you ;P Come on Paul, lets wait until .NET is released before we can speculate on what the future holds. The best growths in the computer industries and Graphics Hardware and 3D programming, so it looks like ASP is *not* the future. ;) Maybe you should learn OpenGL or DirectX (yuk!) Normski. - Professional Windows Programmer

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                Norm Almond wrote: and ASP is the future, how niave of you I definitley do not think ASP is the future either. I still don't think though that C++ is either. Speculation is exactly that, so I shall speculate that .NET is the future, especially the ASP.NET component. ASP.NET is out of this world. 3d programming in business apps? Oh sure, they will go for that X| Norm Almond wrote: Maybe you should learn OpenGL or DirectX While I am at it I will also have root canal and an anal probe ;P regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge

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                  Paul Watson wrote: Me no comprendai C++, me do ASP. Me no want C++. C++ not the future... :omg: and ASP is the future, how niave of you ;P Come on Paul, lets wait until .NET is released before we can speculate on what the future holds. The best growths in the computer industries and Graphics Hardware and 3D programming, so it looks like ASP is *not* the future. ;) Maybe you should learn OpenGL or DirectX (yuk!) Normski. - Professional Windows Programmer

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                  you should never dismiss what you don't comprendai :rose: Normski. - Professional Windows Programmer

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                    Having just helped install a new PC for a friend and having to suggest various apps that I think she needs I thought it would be interesting to ask the experts what they find essential. Here is my list of apps that I cannot do without: - Macromedia Fireworks - Jasc Paint Shop Pro - WinZip - MS Outlook - MS Word - MS Visio - Visual Interdev - SQL Enterprise Manager - CuteFTP - ICQ - Sonork - Acrobat - MS Internet Explorer - Netscape - Notepad (so handy!) - Terminal Services Seeing as most of my development is ASP, HTML and JavaScript I don't need much in the way of debugging tools or compilers. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge

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                    OK, we have covered a lot of the basics. Here are several I have not seen listed. Editor - PFE Unistall - Remove4Good - Gets rid of entries of programs that are already gone and whose names were left (Thanks to install shield failing if the user moved the menu.) Screen Capture - Hypersnap System info - Tweaking Tool Box for Windows. Michael A. Barnhart mabtech@swbell.net

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                      Norm Almond wrote: and ASP is the future, how niave of you I definitley do not think ASP is the future either. I still don't think though that C++ is either. Speculation is exactly that, so I shall speculate that .NET is the future, especially the ASP.NET component. ASP.NET is out of this world. 3d programming in business apps? Oh sure, they will go for that X| Norm Almond wrote: Maybe you should learn OpenGL or DirectX While I am at it I will also have root canal and an anal probe ;P regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge

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                      ROFLOL :-D Nice one, seriously though if we knew what the future held, we'd be Millionaires. Different tools for different jobs, you could'nt write a Word processor in ASP and I couldn't write a e-commerce application in C++. Normski. - Professional Windows Programmer

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                        OK, we have covered a lot of the basics. Here are several I have not seen listed. Editor - PFE Unistall - Remove4Good - Gets rid of entries of programs that are already gone and whose names were left (Thanks to install shield failing if the user moved the menu.) Screen Capture - Hypersnap System info - Tweaking Tool Box for Windows. Michael A. Barnhart mabtech@swbell.net

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                        Michael.A.Barnhart wrote: Unistall - Remove4Good - Gets rid of entries of programs that are already gone and whose names were left (Thanks to install shield failing if the user moved the menu.) Does that programme actually work? I have heard claims but never really tested them out. Also does anyone not change the start menu structure? I know I put my apps into a very different menu structure to the default. It confuses uninstall apps like hell though. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge

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                          ROFLOL :-D Nice one, seriously though if we knew what the future held, we'd be Millionaires. Different tools for different jobs, you could'nt write a Word processor in ASP and I couldn't write a e-commerce application in C++. Normski. - Professional Windows Programmer

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                          Norm Almond wrote: Different tools for different jobs, you could'nt write a Word processor in ASP and I couldn't write a e-commerce application in C++. I knew a guy who wrote all the back-end processing for an e-commerce application in C++. It was pretty good and very fast. The front-end was all ASP and HTML of course. Also our web content management system has a Word like content editing application with spell checking, full formatting, importing, exporting etc. Much like using Word, only not as infuriating. It is written all in ASP with XML/XSL and a SQL back-end. Of course it uses a VB COM component for the hard stuff but you would be amazed what you can do with Internet Explorer, DHTML and a COM component. You can make a very good UI in a web browser and the COM component does all the data crunching bits. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge

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                            you should never dismiss what you don't comprendai :rose: Normski. - Professional Windows Programmer

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                            Norm Almond wrote: you should never dismiss what you don't comprendai touche, touche! :-D regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge

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                              Having just helped install a new PC for a friend and having to suggest various apps that I think she needs I thought it would be interesting to ask the experts what they find essential. Here is my list of apps that I cannot do without: - Macromedia Fireworks - Jasc Paint Shop Pro - WinZip - MS Outlook - MS Word - MS Visio - Visual Interdev - SQL Enterprise Manager - CuteFTP - ICQ - Sonork - Acrobat - MS Internet Explorer - Netscape - Notepad (so handy!) - Terminal Services Seeing as most of my development is ASP, HTML and JavaScript I don't need much in the way of debugging tools or compilers. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge

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                              My taskmanager list: - C# - Delphi 5 - VB 6.0 - IE (times 10) 6.0 - Opera --- only 'cause its easier to ALT-TAB out of than IE :omg: ;) - Visual N++ - MSSQL ent. man. 2000 - VSS - BulletProof FTP - MS Messenger and the Boss-screen of all boss-screens: - VC++ 6.0 Simon "...Bill is watching..." "An Object Is Simply A Referenced Thingy" ... Programming Perl, by Larry Wall

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                                Norm Almond wrote: Different tools for different jobs, you could'nt write a Word processor in ASP and I couldn't write a e-commerce application in C++. I knew a guy who wrote all the back-end processing for an e-commerce application in C++. It was pretty good and very fast. The front-end was all ASP and HTML of course. Also our web content management system has a Word like content editing application with spell checking, full formatting, importing, exporting etc. Much like using Word, only not as infuriating. It is written all in ASP with XML/XSL and a SQL back-end. Of course it uses a VB COM component for the hard stuff but you would be amazed what you can do with Internet Explorer, DHTML and a COM component. You can make a very good UI in a web browser and the COM component does all the data crunching bits. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge

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                                So your saying the *hard* UI bits are done in COM objects, I was thinking about ActiveX web components the other day, surely you limiting your audience relying on COM objects. :confused: Normski. - Professional Windows Programmer

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                                  My taskmanager list: - C# - Delphi 5 - VB 6.0 - IE (times 10) 6.0 - Opera --- only 'cause its easier to ALT-TAB out of than IE :omg: ;) - Visual N++ - MSSQL ent. man. 2000 - VSS - BulletProof FTP - MS Messenger and the Boss-screen of all boss-screens: - VC++ 6.0 Simon "...Bill is watching..." "An Object Is Simply A Referenced Thingy" ... Programming Perl, by Larry Wall

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                                  simons wrote: - Opera --- only 'cause its easier to ALT-TAB out of than IE Yeah I am sure bosses would be irritated seeing their employees on CP all day... oh wait... :omg: you are not referring to alt-tabbing out of CP are you! :omg: you mean porn! :omg: ;P regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge

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                                    So your saying the *hard* UI bits are done in COM objects, I was thinking about ActiveX web components the other day, surely you limiting your audience relying on COM objects. :confused: Normski. - Professional Windows Programmer

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                                    Norm Almond wrote: So your saying the *hard* UI bits are done in COM objects, I was thinking about ActiveX web components the other day, surely you limiting your audience relying on COM objects No, no, no UI in COM components. We use the COM components for the number crunching stuff and all the heavy server side processing etc. We avoid ActiveX as much as possible as it is a pain in the arse and does not offer much. You can do amazing things with DHTML. Also the CMS solution is targeted at the people who run and provide content for a website. It then pumps out cross-browser compatible code based on templates etc. So the CMS editor etc. can be targeted for Internet Explorer while the website itself remains cross-browser. Targeting CMS for IE lets us focus on very good UIs. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge

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                                      simons wrote: - Opera --- only 'cause its easier to ALT-TAB out of than IE Yeah I am sure bosses would be irritated seeing their employees on CP all day... oh wait... :omg: you are not referring to alt-tabbing out of CP are you! :omg: you mean porn! :omg: ;P regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge

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                                      Paul Watson wrote: you mean porn! Porn is bad, M'kay. Just back from Sandton City and have done my perv'ing for the week... ;P ;) :laugh: :laugh: Why not take a trip to Blouberg on Sat. and do the same, Paul. :laugh: and don't forget to post the pics on your blog. Simon "...Bill is watching..." "An Object Is Simply A Referenced Thingy" ... Programming Perl, by Larry Wall

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                                        Norm Almond wrote: So your saying the *hard* UI bits are done in COM objects, I was thinking about ActiveX web components the other day, surely you limiting your audience relying on COM objects No, no, no UI in COM components. We use the COM components for the number crunching stuff and all the heavy server side processing etc. We avoid ActiveX as much as possible as it is a pain in the arse and does not offer much. You can do amazing things with DHTML. Also the CMS solution is targeted at the people who run and provide content for a website. It then pumps out cross-browser compatible code based on templates etc. So the CMS editor etc. can be targeted for Internet Explorer while the website itself remains cross-browser. Targeting CMS for IE lets us focus on very good UIs. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge

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                                        Yeah, I see, sounds fun, I'm into cool UI, we'tr just developing a Airport Stand Allocation system, this *has* to be done in C++ lots on heavy customized UI drag 'n' drop etc, worst bit is that I use ADO to talk to ORACLE (yuk!) X|, only wish we would use SQL Server. Normski. - Professional Windows Programmer

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                                          Yeah, I see, sounds fun, I'm into cool UI, we'tr just developing a Airport Stand Allocation system, this *has* to be done in C++ lots on heavy customized UI drag 'n' drop etc, worst bit is that I use ADO to talk to ORACLE (yuk!) X|, only wish we would use SQL Server. Normski. - Professional Windows Programmer

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                                          Guess Paul we got kinda side tracked on this one :) Normski. - Professional Windows Programmer

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