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    Microsoft have released a re-branded Giant AntiSpyware app in beta form. Seems pretty good, detected a couple of spyware apps on my machine that a recent Spybot Search and Destroy scan did not pick-up on. I used the deep-scan and it did not max out my machine, letting me carry on working in VS.NET and SQL. The download is a bit of a PITA if you choose to do the Genuine Windows authentication, which I did. Make sure you have your Windows Product-Key with you when you do (normally on the bottom of your laptop or back of your desktop or on the cover of the CD you bought.) It is also part of the Spy-Net AntiSpyware network which provides automatic signature updates, like anti-virus apps. regards, Paul Watson South Africa The Code Project South-East Asia Disaster: How you can help Pope Pius II said "The only prescription is more cowbell. "

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      Microsoft have released a re-branded Giant AntiSpyware app in beta form. Seems pretty good, detected a couple of spyware apps on my machine that a recent Spybot Search and Destroy scan did not pick-up on. I used the deep-scan and it did not max out my machine, letting me carry on working in VS.NET and SQL. The download is a bit of a PITA if you choose to do the Genuine Windows authentication, which I did. Make sure you have your Windows Product-Key with you when you do (normally on the bottom of your laptop or back of your desktop or on the cover of the CD you bought.) It is also part of the Spy-Net AntiSpyware network which provides automatic signature updates, like anti-virus apps. regards, Paul Watson South Africa The Code Project South-East Asia Disaster: How you can help Pope Pius II said "The only prescription is more cowbell. "

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      Thanks, FYI A couple of months ago I did a little trial of several apps, Giant, CounterSpy, and 2 others excaping my memory. They all found items the others left behind. So what is considered a spy versus an ok cookie or what ever is quite open. I took a mirror image of my daughters machine (she is at college, so you can guess what floats on the halls networks) several times and ran through different orders of loading and running the anti spy apps. I did not do any tests on preventing infections, just removal from the existing image. I do not mind getting old. It beats all the other options that can think of.

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        Microsoft have released a re-branded Giant AntiSpyware app in beta form. Seems pretty good, detected a couple of spyware apps on my machine that a recent Spybot Search and Destroy scan did not pick-up on. I used the deep-scan and it did not max out my machine, letting me carry on working in VS.NET and SQL. The download is a bit of a PITA if you choose to do the Genuine Windows authentication, which I did. Make sure you have your Windows Product-Key with you when you do (normally on the bottom of your laptop or back of your desktop or on the cover of the CD you bought.) It is also part of the Spy-Net AntiSpyware network which provides automatic signature updates, like anti-virus apps. regards, Paul Watson South Africa The Code Project South-East Asia Disaster: How you can help Pope Pius II said "The only prescription is more cowbell. "

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        Well it found nothing on my system. Whether that is good or bad, I don't know. Mind you, SpyBot and Adaware run regularly on my machine anyway. One interesting thing it spotted, it warned me that my hosts file had been modified to redirect ads.yahoo.com to 0.0.0.0. My host file redirects lots of ads to 0.0.0.0, I wonder why it warned about yahoo in particular, it isn't the top entry in the hosts file. Curious. Michael CP Blog [^]

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          Microsoft have released a re-branded Giant AntiSpyware app in beta form. Seems pretty good, detected a couple of spyware apps on my machine that a recent Spybot Search and Destroy scan did not pick-up on. I used the deep-scan and it did not max out my machine, letting me carry on working in VS.NET and SQL. The download is a bit of a PITA if you choose to do the Genuine Windows authentication, which I did. Make sure you have your Windows Product-Key with you when you do (normally on the bottom of your laptop or back of your desktop or on the cover of the CD you bought.) It is also part of the Spy-Net AntiSpyware network which provides automatic signature updates, like anti-virus apps. regards, Paul Watson South Africa The Code Project South-East Asia Disaster: How you can help Pope Pius II said "The only prescription is more cowbell. "

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          what would we gain to use MS anti-spyware when Ad-Aware and Spybot do a good job? Also, these spywares often install themselves because of security breaches in Windows and/or IE, so how can we trust MS on that??


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            what would we gain to use MS anti-spyware when Ad-Aware and Spybot do a good job? Also, these spywares often install themselves because of security breaches in Windows and/or IE, so how can we trust MS on that??


            Fold With Us! Sie wollen mein Herz am rechten Fleck Doch seh ich dann nach unten weg Da schlägt es links

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            It's something similar to a small app from our company. Costumers complained about a app (a service) crashing because of memry leaks. Our solution: Kill the app every 5 minutes or so and restart :doh: !! Same thing apparently goes for MS :laugh:. "If I don't see you in this world, I'll see you in the next one... and don't be late." ~ Jimi Hendrix

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              It's something similar to a small app from our company. Costumers complained about a app (a service) crashing because of memry leaks. Our solution: Kill the app every 5 minutes or so and restart :doh: !! Same thing apparently goes for MS :laugh:. "If I don't see you in this world, I'll see you in the next one... and don't be late." ~ Jimi Hendrix

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              V. wrote: Our solution: Kill the app every 5 minutes or so and restart That's really, really dirty! :doh: V. wrote: memry leaks IMO, for a programmer, memory leaks are a sin :suss:


              Fold With Us! Sie wollen mein Herz am rechten Fleck Doch seh ich dann nach unten weg Da schlägt es links

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                V. wrote: Our solution: Kill the app every 5 minutes or so and restart That's really, really dirty! :doh: V. wrote: memry leaks IMO, for a programmer, memory leaks are a sin :suss:


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                Yup, and when I mentioned it to my boss, he said why bother? :wtf: It's not the only strange thing here so ... I'll :zzz: some more :-> "If I don't see you in this world, I'll see you in the next one... and don't be late." ~ Jimi Hendrix

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                  what would we gain to use MS anti-spyware when Ad-Aware and Spybot do a good job? Also, these spywares often install themselves because of security breaches in Windows and/or IE, so how can we trust MS on that??


                  Fold With Us! Sie wollen mein Herz am rechten Fleck Doch seh ich dann nach unten weg Da schlägt es links

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                  >what would we gain to use MS anti-spyware when Ad-Aware and Spybot do a good job? Paul Thurrot reckons that GIANT AntiSpyware (which Windows AntiSpyware Beta is really a rebranding of) is better than the others. But then a recommendation is to have two or more anti-spyware systems on your machine and to run them in series. >so how can we trust MS on that?? S&D, Ad-Aware etc. all run on the same platform as Windows AntiSpyware so at that level you are exposed to the same security problems. Also as mentioned Windows AntiSpyware is hardly developed by Microsoft. Not that I think that is a pro or a con. There is no guarantee other companies are any better than Microsoft and I would say many are worse. It is possible that with the integration with SpyNet there is a chance of a new infection vector but... well you are just knocking Microsoft here and GIANT wrote this bit of software. :) Did Windows crash on you today Karl? You seem very anti-them today :) regards, Paul Watson South Africa The Code Project South-East Asia Disaster: How you can help Pope Pius II said "The only prescription is more cowbell. "

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                    Yup, and when I mentioned it to my boss, he said why bother? :wtf: It's not the only strange thing here so ... I'll :zzz: some more :-> "If I don't see you in this world, I'll see you in the next one... and don't be late." ~ Jimi Hendrix

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                    V. wrote: I mentioned it to my boss, he said why bother I'll try not to turn that in other "belgian joke" :rolleyes:;)


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                      V. wrote: I mentioned it to my boss, he said why bother I'll try not to turn that in other "belgian joke" :rolleyes:;)


                      Fold With Us! Sie wollen mein Herz am rechten Fleck Doch seh ich dann nach unten weg Da schlägt es links

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                      K(arl) wrote: I'll try not to turn that in other "belgian joke there are belgian jokes ?? I never knew we were so amusing :laugh: "If I don't see you in this world, I'll see you in the next one... and don't be late." ~ Jimi Hendrix

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                        >what would we gain to use MS anti-spyware when Ad-Aware and Spybot do a good job? Paul Thurrot reckons that GIANT AntiSpyware (which Windows AntiSpyware Beta is really a rebranding of) is better than the others. But then a recommendation is to have two or more anti-spyware systems on your machine and to run them in series. >so how can we trust MS on that?? S&D, Ad-Aware etc. all run on the same platform as Windows AntiSpyware so at that level you are exposed to the same security problems. Also as mentioned Windows AntiSpyware is hardly developed by Microsoft. Not that I think that is a pro or a con. There is no guarantee other companies are any better than Microsoft and I would say many are worse. It is possible that with the integration with SpyNet there is a chance of a new infection vector but... well you are just knocking Microsoft here and GIANT wrote this bit of software. :) Did Windows crash on you today Karl? You seem very anti-them today :) regards, Paul Watson South Africa The Code Project South-East Asia Disaster: How you can help Pope Pius II said "The only prescription is more cowbell. "

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                        Paul Watson wrote: two or more anti-spyware systems on your machine and to run them in series. I totally agree. And using Firefox may help, too :-D Paul Watson wrote: Did Windows crash on you today I have to say that since I run on W2K (that is for years), these days are gone :cool: Paul Watson wrote: You seem very anti-them today You can't blame me because I encourage competition, can you? :-> I have no problem with MS, except perhaps I fear its tendency towards hegemony and then its intrusion in new domains.


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                          Microsoft have released a re-branded Giant AntiSpyware app in beta form. Seems pretty good, detected a couple of spyware apps on my machine that a recent Spybot Search and Destroy scan did not pick-up on. I used the deep-scan and it did not max out my machine, letting me carry on working in VS.NET and SQL. The download is a bit of a PITA if you choose to do the Genuine Windows authentication, which I did. Make sure you have your Windows Product-Key with you when you do (normally on the bottom of your laptop or back of your desktop or on the cover of the CD you bought.) It is also part of the Spy-Net AntiSpyware network which provides automatic signature updates, like anti-virus apps. regards, Paul Watson South Africa The Code Project South-East Asia Disaster: How you can help Pope Pius II said "The only prescription is more cowbell. "

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                          Paul Watson wrote: The download is a bit of a PITA if you choose to do the Genuine Windows authentication, which I did. Fileforum has a direct link http://download.microsoft.com/download/8/1/5/815d2d60-49b5-44dc-ae35-fca2f2c6f0cc/MicrosoftAntiSpywareInstall.exe[^] PS: after i restarted my MSN, you dont come up anymore... o well.:^) top secret
                          Download xacc-ide 0.0.3 now!
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                            Thanks, FYI A couple of months ago I did a little trial of several apps, Giant, CounterSpy, and 2 others excaping my memory. They all found items the others left behind. So what is considered a spy versus an ok cookie or what ever is quite open. I took a mirror image of my daughters machine (she is at college, so you can guess what floats on the halls networks) several times and ran through different orders of loading and running the anti spy apps. I did not do any tests on preventing infections, just removal from the existing image. I do not mind getting old. It beats all the other options that can think of.

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                            MS bought Giant, and that's the software we're talking about right now. ------- sig starts "I've heard some drivers saying, 'We're going too fast here...'. If you're not here to race, go the hell home - don't come here and grumble about going too fast. Why don't you tie a kerosene rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                              what would we gain to use MS anti-spyware when Ad-Aware and Spybot do a good job? Also, these spywares often install themselves because of security breaches in Windows and/or IE, so how can we trust MS on that??


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                              MS bought Giant a couple of weeks ago, which is a better program in terms of how much crapware was detected. They had to modify the code to put their company stuff in there before they released it under their own name. ------- sig starts "I've heard some drivers saying, 'We're going too fast here...'. If you're not here to race, go the hell home - don't come here and grumble about going too fast. Why don't you tie a kerosene rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                Microsoft have released a re-branded Giant AntiSpyware app in beta form. Seems pretty good, detected a couple of spyware apps on my machine that a recent Spybot Search and Destroy scan did not pick-up on. I used the deep-scan and it did not max out my machine, letting me carry on working in VS.NET and SQL. The download is a bit of a PITA if you choose to do the Genuine Windows authentication, which I did. Make sure you have your Windows Product-Key with you when you do (normally on the bottom of your laptop or back of your desktop or on the cover of the CD you bought.) It is also part of the Spy-Net AntiSpyware network which provides automatic signature updates, like anti-virus apps. regards, Paul Watson South Africa The Code Project South-East Asia Disaster: How you can help Pope Pius II said "The only prescription is more cowbell. "

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                                Thanks M$. Once more you've destroyed another market for third parties... :mad:

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                                  Thanks M$. Once more you've destroyed another market for third parties... :mad:

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                                  You are right, ban Microsoft... sorry... M$ from competing in any but a few markets. regards, Paul Watson South Africa The Code Project South-East Asia Disaster: How you can help Pope Pius II said "The only prescription is more cowbell. "

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                                    Paul Watson wrote: The download is a bit of a PITA if you choose to do the Genuine Windows authentication, which I did. Fileforum has a direct link http://download.microsoft.com/download/8/1/5/815d2d60-49b5-44dc-ae35-fca2f2c6f0cc/MicrosoftAntiSpywareInstall.exe[^] PS: after i restarted my MSN, you dont come up anymore... o well.:^) top secret
                                    Download xacc-ide 0.0.3 now!
                                    See some screenshots

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                                    You don't have to do the Genuine Windows authentication. If you don't it is a direct download too. I just chose to authenticate and it turned into a PITA. regards, Paul Watson South Africa The Code Project South-East Asia Disaster: How you can help Pope Pius II said "The only prescription is more cowbell. "

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                                      You are right, ban Microsoft... sorry... M$ from competing in any but a few markets. regards, Paul Watson South Africa The Code Project South-East Asia Disaster: How you can help Pope Pius II said "The only prescription is more cowbell. "

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                                      Paul, I have nothing against competition, although M$... sorry Microsoft ;) has the unfair advantage to offer a free version with it's OS. Most users will go with the free version, thus they won't bother to search for alternatives that might be better. Look at Winzip. The market is now shut since it's been implemented in Windows XP! How fair is that? We'll see how it goes but I hope they won't offer a free version and they'll be decent enough to compete on the same level as others. Eventually, Microsoft will be in every software market possible and with their millions to back them up for marketing, it just won't be profitable enough to create new software for the mass market. I might be wrong but that's my point of view.

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                                        Thanks M$. Once more you've destroyed another market for third parties... :mad:

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                                        Dude... They created that market! If Windows wasn't installed by default allowing every bit of crud on the 'Net to stomp all over your average gullible consumer's system, malware wouldn't be an issue to most people. Now let them clean up the mess they've made...
                                        You left me high and dry and changed me You lied to me and now i’m angry**...**

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                                          Dude... They created that market! If Windows wasn't installed by default allowing every bit of crud on the 'Net to stomp all over your average gullible consumer's system, malware wouldn't be an issue to most people. Now let them clean up the mess they've made...
                                          You left me high and dry and changed me You lied to me and now i’m angry**...**

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                                          Please read my reply to Paul... :)

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