Greatest American
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Ronald Reagan? :wtf: That is absolutely pathetic. It is only indicative of the fact that so few people know any history. Read David McCullough's John Adams and you'll understand what I mean. How could Reagan possibly compare to people like Adams, Jefferson, Franklin and Lincoln? Give me a break. And that's just political figures. What about Edison, the Wright brothers and on and on. Anyway, it seems like a pretty stupid thing to try and say who is/was the greatest person in any particular political or geographical area. What's the greatest animal? What's the greatest food? What's the best color? Matt Gerrans
Matt Gerrans wrote: Anyway, it seems like a pretty stupid thing to try and say who is/was the greatest person in any particular political or geographical area. They're not. It's a TV popularity contest. All it shows is that the majority of a bunch of TV viewers like a particular person more than the others. It doesn't mean that person actually IS the greatest American. If I asked a bunch of 1st graders who they thought was the greatest american they would probably say Sponge Bob. Although great, it doesn't mean Sponge Bob IS the greatest American ;) Cheers, Drew.
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Oh geez, don't get me wrong, I think Ronald rocked, but there are so many more Americans who did more than Ronald who were not on that list. Jonas Salk[^] Philo Farnsworth[^] Douglas Ebert[^] To name just a few great Americans. Most people are willing to pay more to be amused than to be educated--Robert C. Savage, Life Lessons Toasty0.com Ladder League (beta) My Grandkids
Well, we are getting real subjective now. Jonas Salk Wonderful what he did combating Polio. Maybe in a contest for greatest doctor, scientist? There were many more scientist that helped mankind. Philo Farnsworth The inventor of TV? Maybe greatest inventor. Dougles Ebert Inventor of the mouse? Maybe these guys were great inventors but bad Americans? I am not saying they are, I have no idea. I guess the real question is what makes a "Great American."
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Matt Gerrans wrote: What's the greatest animal? What's the greatest food? What's the best color? Cat, chocolate, green. Those were easy questions. :-D The generation of random numbers is too important to be left to chance.
Navin wrote: Matt Gerrans wrote: What's the greatest animal? What's the greatest food? What's the best color? Cat, chocolate, green. Man Banana Yellow Richard In a world of pollution, profanity, adolescence, zits, broccoli, racism, ozone depletion, sexism, stupid guys, and PMS, why the hell do people still tell me to have a nice day? --Unknown
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Navin wrote: Matt Gerrans wrote: What's the greatest animal? What's the greatest food? What's the best color? Cat, chocolate, green. Man Banana Yellow Richard In a world of pollution, profanity, adolescence, zits, broccoli, racism, ozone depletion, sexism, stupid guys, and PMS, why the hell do people still tell me to have a nice day? --Unknown
Richard Stringer wrote: In a world of pollution, profanity, adolescence, zits, broccoli, racism, ozone depletion, sexism, stupid guys, and PMS, why the hell do people still tell me to have a nice day? You are a eternal optimist, right? :-D See Slovakia[^]
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I just found that the show Greatest American is finished and the winner is Ronald Reagan. Personally, I like Ronald Reagan so I think it is a good choice. What do you think dear Americans? http://tv.channel.aol.com/greatestamerican[^]
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I just found that the show Greatest American is finished and the winner is Ronald Reagan. Personally, I like Ronald Reagan so I think it is a good choice. What do you think dear Americans? http://tv.channel.aol.com/greatestamerican[^]
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If you talk about the number of women they scored with, I bet Clinton beat Reagan hands down. :) Brigg Thorp Senior Software Engineer Timex Corporation
Considering that Reagan was a well-known actor, I bet he didn't have too many problems in that dept :) Cheers, Tom Archer - Visual C++ MVP Archer Consulting Group "So look up ahead at times to come, despair is not for us. We have a world and more to see, while this remains behind." - James N. Rowe
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Richard Stringer wrote: In a world of pollution, profanity, adolescence, zits, broccoli, racism, ozone depletion, sexism, stupid guys, and PMS, why the hell do people still tell me to have a nice day? You are a eternal optimist, right? :-D See Slovakia[^]
Michal Martinka wrote: You are a eternal optimist, right? Pessimists and optomists are basically the same thing except for one minor exception: An optomist is always suprised and shocked when bad things happen. They are not prepared. A pessimist is never suprised by anything and is always prepared for the worst. Which would you rather be ? Suprised or prepared. Richard In a world of pollution, profanity, adolescence, zits, broccoli, racism, ozone depletion, sexism, stupid guys, and PMS, why the hell do people still tell me to have a nice day? --Unknown
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Michal Martinka wrote: You are a eternal optimist, right? Pessimists and optomists are basically the same thing except for one minor exception: An optomist is always suprised and shocked when bad things happen. They are not prepared. A pessimist is never suprised by anything and is always prepared for the worst. Which would you rather be ? Suprised or prepared. Richard In a world of pollution, profanity, adolescence, zits, broccoli, racism, ozone depletion, sexism, stupid guys, and PMS, why the hell do people still tell me to have a nice day? --Unknown
Richard Stringer wrote: Which would you rather be ? Suprised or prepared. I'm an optimist who is always prepared for the worst. Is it an ideal? Seriously, I'm prepared for everything. But I believe that things can be always better. See Slovakia[^]
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Michal Martinka wrote: You are a eternal optimist, right? Pessimists and optomists are basically the same thing except for one minor exception: An optomist is always suprised and shocked when bad things happen. They are not prepared. A pessimist is never suprised by anything and is always prepared for the worst. Which would you rather be ? Suprised or prepared. Richard In a world of pollution, profanity, adolescence, zits, broccoli, racism, ozone depletion, sexism, stupid guys, and PMS, why the hell do people still tell me to have a nice day? --Unknown
Richard Stringer wrote: Which would you rather be ? Suprised or prepared. It always happens, doesn't matter what the story is, people are shocked... I just roll my eyes and get back to work. very little surprises me anymore. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Richard Stringer wrote: Which would you rather be ? Suprised or prepared. I'm an optimist who is always prepared for the worst. Is it an ideal? Seriously, I'm prepared for everything. But I believe that things can be always better. See Slovakia[^]
Michal Martinka wrote: But I believe that things can be always better. Even a pessimist knows the world "can be" always better. He just has enough realistic notion of human behavior and failure rate of complex mechanical systems to know that it won't be. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Richard Stringer wrote: Which would you rather be ? Suprised or prepared. I'm an optimist who is always prepared for the worst. Is it an ideal? Seriously, I'm prepared for everything. But I believe that things can be always better. See Slovakia[^]
Michal Martinka wrote: Seriously, I'm prepared for everything. But I believe that things can be always better Better than what. As compared to any point in recorded history we are "better" than we have been. And its getting better every day. One that is always prepared is neither a pessimist nor an optomist: he is a realist. And a realist can dream of Utopia while dealing with the world as it is. He doesn't expect that much change but it would still be nice. Richard In a world of pollution, profanity, adolescence, zits, broccoli, racism, ozone depletion, sexism, stupid guys, and PMS, why the hell do people still tell me to have a nice day? --Unknown
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Richard Stringer wrote: Which would you rather be ? Suprised or prepared. It always happens, doesn't matter what the story is, people are shocked... I just roll my eyes and get back to work. very little surprises me anymore. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
Jeffry J. Brickley wrote: I just roll my eyes and get back to work. very little surprises me anymore. We probabaly have the same tee shirt. You know the one that says "Shit Happens". Richard In a world of pollution, profanity, adolescence, zits, broccoli, racism, ozone depletion, sexism, stupid guys, and PMS, why the hell do people still tell me to have a nice day? --Unknown
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Michal Martinka wrote: Seriously, I'm prepared for everything. But I believe that things can be always better Better than what. As compared to any point in recorded history we are "better" than we have been. And its getting better every day. One that is always prepared is neither a pessimist nor an optomist: he is a realist. And a realist can dream of Utopia while dealing with the world as it is. He doesn't expect that much change but it would still be nice. Richard In a world of pollution, profanity, adolescence, zits, broccoli, racism, ozone depletion, sexism, stupid guys, and PMS, why the hell do people still tell me to have a nice day? --Unknown
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Jeffry J. Brickley wrote: I just roll my eyes and get back to work. very little surprises me anymore. We probabaly have the same tee shirt. You know the one that says "Shit Happens". Richard In a world of pollution, profanity, adolescence, zits, broccoli, racism, ozone depletion, sexism, stupid guys, and PMS, why the hell do people still tell me to have a nice day? --Unknown
Richard Stringer wrote: We probabaly have the same tee shirt. You know the one that says "Shit Happens". I opted for the paper weight and note-pad of the same. Doesn't upset VIP's when they make surprise visits that disrupt work-flow, schedules, and design features for delivery of the products they come to see. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Michal Martinka wrote: well, in your definition, i'm realist. what about you? Damned if I know :) From Monday thru Thursday I am a pessimist. On Friday I become an optomist for a while until I see that my weekly renumeration is still not enough to move me into a higher tax bracket. Saturday and Sunday as I pay bills, fix things around the house, mow the yard, manage my pitiful little stock portfolio and wonder if I will ever be able to retire with any modicum of comfort, I am a realist. The pessimist in me tells me I am gonna die broke and sick, the optomist tells me I am gonna win the lottery, and the realist says "keep on working boy". Richard In a world of pollution, profanity, adolescence, zits, broccoli, racism, ozone depletion, sexism, stupid guys, and PMS, why the hell do people still tell me to have a nice day? --Unknown
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Michal Martinka wrote: well, in your definition, i'm realist. what about you? Damned if I know :) From Monday thru Thursday I am a pessimist. On Friday I become an optomist for a while until I see that my weekly renumeration is still not enough to move me into a higher tax bracket. Saturday and Sunday as I pay bills, fix things around the house, mow the yard, manage my pitiful little stock portfolio and wonder if I will ever be able to retire with any modicum of comfort, I am a realist. The pessimist in me tells me I am gonna die broke and sick, the optomist tells me I am gonna win the lottery, and the realist says "keep on working boy". Richard In a world of pollution, profanity, adolescence, zits, broccoli, racism, ozone depletion, sexism, stupid guys, and PMS, why the hell do people still tell me to have a nice day? --Unknown
Richard Stringer wrote: Damned if I know From Monday thru Thursday I am a pessimist. On Friday I become an optomist for a while until I see that my weekly renumeration is still not enough to move me into a higher tax bracket. Saturday and Sunday as I pay bills, fix things around the house, mow the yard, manage my pitiful little stock portfolio and wonder if I will ever be able to retire with any modicum of comfort, I am a realist. The pessimist in me tells me I am gonna die broke and sick, the optomist tells me I am gonna win the lottery, and the realist says "keep on working boy". so real, so funny :laugh: EDIT: You wrote it in funny way therefore it seems funny to me. in fact I admire this lifestyle. I mean you (Americans) are hard workers, some have more than one job, and yet some also make charity in they free time. I think this is what makes America great.
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I just found that the show Greatest American is finished and the winner is Ronald Reagan. Personally, I like Ronald Reagan so I think it is a good choice. What do you think dear Americans? http://tv.channel.aol.com/greatestamerican[^]
I was fairly young when Reagan left office... my first-hand memories of the time are few and vague. Based on what i've seen since then, i'd have a hard time calling him "Great". But love him or hate him, there's little denying that the world would have been a significantly different place today had there been no Reagan, and in the end, perhaps this is the most observable aspect of greatness.
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Bill Clinton. :ducks: ;) Ronald Reagan is a good choice. Odd that #1 and #2 are both politicians, both Republicans too...I suppose since it was open to voting, and this seems like a show that would appeal mostly to common conservative folk, it should come as no surprise that Lincoln and Reagan are #2 & #1 respectively. And both Bush Sr. and Bush Jr. are in the top 25? I dunno about that... but I'll save any further comment for the soapbox. :-) *edit* ok, which 2 people voted 1 for this message? Why is everyone so politically sensitive these days? The Bill Clinton suggestion was a JOKE, for those over-sensitive conservatives that didn't get it. Or was the joking suggestion of Clinton ticking off some over-sensitive liberals? I dunno. Sheesh, you can't mention a political figure without inciting a flame war these days.
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