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IS LAUREN A BIGOT?

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  • C Christian Graus

    I was under the impression that the anti Semetic part of Nazism was religiously motivated. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++

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    Nemanja Trifunovic
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    Christian Graus wrote: I was under the impression that the anti Semetic part of Nazism was religiously motivated. In the case of Nazism, no. Although, it would be fair to add that in many other cases (Spain in 15th century, Ukraine in 17th, etc...) anti-Semitic movements were religiously motivated.


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    • C Christian Graus

      The KKK is a 'christian' organisation. I thought the Nazi motivation was the same. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++

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      TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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      No, there was no religion behind Nazism. Just a hate for all things jewish.

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        Thank you for your well said and well thought-out post. It actually wasn't my intent to solicit negative input toward lauren. Rather, I wanted someone to defend her and her point of view. I have yet to see any post that successfully does so. Only attacks. But you have a good point. It was a wrong way to go about it. I sincerely apologize to you and everyone else and especially to lauren.

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        Mike Ellison
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        ahz wrote: It actually wasn't my intent to solicit negative input toward lauren. Rather, I wanted someone to defend her and her point of view. Hi there. I think you're fooling yourself with this statement. I don't mean that as an insult to you; rather, I think you have an opportunity here, should you choose to take it, to take a step back from this and seriously ask the question "Why did I feel it necessary to solicit negative feelings about this individual?". If you try to kid yourself by suggesting things like "I wanted someone to defend her" then you've talked yourself right out of that opportunity. You didn't want someone to defend her. You wanted other people to express the same negative feelings about her that you expressed. Seriously, take a good hard look at yourself over this, and I think you'll be the happier for it.

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        • C Christian Graus

          Have you seen her profile ? She doesn't need help to LOOK good... Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++

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          Jim Crafton
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          You know, if she were ever to post a picture in the 400X400 size range the page hits would bring the site to it's knees within seconds. Think the number of 500's are bad now...:rolleyes: ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!

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            ahz wrote: It actually wasn't my intent to solicit negative input toward lauren. Rather, I wanted someone to defend her and her point of view. Hi there. I think you're fooling yourself with this statement. I don't mean that as an insult to you; rather, I think you have an opportunity here, should you choose to take it, to take a step back from this and seriously ask the question "Why did I feel it necessary to solicit negative feelings about this individual?". If you try to kid yourself by suggesting things like "I wanted someone to defend her" then you've talked yourself right out of that opportunity. You didn't want someone to defend her. You wanted other people to express the same negative feelings about her that you expressed. Seriously, take a good hard look at yourself over this, and I think you'll be the happier for it.

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            TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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            Thanks for the advice. I'll take it under advisement.

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            • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

              No, there was no religion behind Nazism. Just a hate for all things jewish.

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              vincent reynolds 0
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              Actually, the secular nationalist leaders took advantage of the religious xenophobia of the populace in offering the Jews as a scapegoat for Germany's economic and social ills since WWI. Religion was used, but just as a tool.

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              • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                yes, this coming from someone who just wants to stick is dick in lauren. her post was not in the soapbox, but rather here in the lounge. i stand by what i said, that lauren is a hateful anti-religous extremist bigot.

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                Jim Crafton
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                Ah, excellent, I see we've stooped down to ad hominem attacks! Superb! Seriously, if you want to cross sabres with John, you're gonna have to ratchet the levels up a notch or two above this. ahz wrote: lauren is a hateful anti-religous extremist bigot. Wow, thanks for clarifying this. :wtf: ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!

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                • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                  Thank you for your well said and well thought-out post. It actually wasn't my intent to solicit negative input toward lauren. Rather, I wanted someone to defend her and her point of view. I have yet to see any post that successfully does so. Only attacks. But you have a good point. It was a wrong way to go about it. I sincerely apologize to you and everyone else and especially to lauren.

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                  Jim Crafton
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                  ahz wrote: It actually wasn't my intent to solicit negative input toward lauren. That's the biggest bunch of bullshit I've heard in weeks! Get over yourself. You don't go posting in the lounge asking if an individual, by name no less, is a bigot and not expect people to interpret that as anything but a personal, negative, attack. The next thing you'll tell me is where all the WMD's are in Iraq. ahz wrote: Rather, I wanted someone to defend her and her point of view. No one's going to defend her because: 1) They don't need to, Lauren's a big girl, completely capable to matching wits with anyone here. 2) There's no need to. Lauren didn't post anything that needed defending. She posted a link of dubious intellectual quality (at least for myself, I thought it was kind of bogus), and expressed a personal opinion. Last time I checked, neither of those things were actions that needed defending. You're playing word games and getting off on the attention you're receiving. Grow up, this is the kind of kindergarten wordplay that Slashdot attracts, head over there if you want to troll. ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!

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                  • J Jim Crafton

                    Ah, excellent, I see we've stooped down to ad hominem attacks! Superb! Seriously, if you want to cross sabres with John, you're gonna have to ratchet the levels up a notch or two above this. ahz wrote: lauren is a hateful anti-religous extremist bigot. Wow, thanks for clarifying this. :wtf: ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!

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                    TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                    Jim Crafton wrote: Wow, thanks for clarifying this Glad I could be of service and assistance.

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                      ahz wrote: It actually wasn't my intent to solicit negative input toward lauren. That's the biggest bunch of bullshit I've heard in weeks! Get over yourself. You don't go posting in the lounge asking if an individual, by name no less, is a bigot and not expect people to interpret that as anything but a personal, negative, attack. The next thing you'll tell me is where all the WMD's are in Iraq. ahz wrote: Rather, I wanted someone to defend her and her point of view. No one's going to defend her because: 1) They don't need to, Lauren's a big girl, completely capable to matching wits with anyone here. 2) There's no need to. Lauren didn't post anything that needed defending. She posted a link of dubious intellectual quality (at least for myself, I thought it was kind of bogus), and expressed a personal opinion. Last time I checked, neither of those things were actions that needed defending. You're playing word games and getting off on the attention you're receiving. Grow up, this is the kind of kindergarten wordplay that Slashdot attracts, head over there if you want to troll. ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!

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                      TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                      Thanks for reading my mind and telling me what I'm about and what I think. I really needed the help. I do know where the WMDs in Iraq are: up your ass.

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                      • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                        Thanks for reading my mind and telling me what I'm about and what I think. I really needed the help. I do know where the WMDs in Iraq are: up your ass.

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                        Jim Crafton
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                        Excellent young Skywalker, feel the power of the Dark side, strike out with your hate! ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!

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                        • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                          is bigot a name?

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                          Colin Angus Mackay
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                          ahz wrote: is bigot a name? Well, it is a noun, and as I was taught in primary school nouns are naming words.


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                          • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                            Douglas Troy wrote: pure and holy Glad to see you finally recognize it. LOL.

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                              Excellent young Skywalker, feel the power of the Dark side, strike out with your hate! ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!

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                              TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                              That's good. Made me :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:. I really needed that. Thanks

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                              • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                                yes dear

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                                Your really making friends today. I'd step back from the keyboard and have a little break if I were you. Ryan

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                                • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                                  Christian Graus wrote: The Crusades, the KKK, Nazi Germany, child abuse by clery, Without going into this Laureen discussion, what religion caused Nazi Germany? Nazi means national socialism and they were driven by nationalism, not any religion. In fact, they were often quoting Darwin theory as a justification for their actions.


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                                  Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                                  Many of the top Nazis (including Hitler) were into occultism. The Totenkopf is a symbol directly linked to their fascination of occultism. Occultism is a form of religion, is it not..? :~ -- Look straight into the light!

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                                    Your really making friends today. I'd step back from the keyboard and have a little break if I were you. Ryan

                                    O fools, awake! The rites you sacred hold Are but a cheat contrived by men of old, Who lusted after wealth and gained their lust And died in baseness—and their law is dust. al-Ma'arri (973-1057)

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                                    Jim Crafton
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                                    Shit no! This is one of the more entertaining threads I've seen in months. Since we can mention He Who Shall Not Be Named, this is the next best thing! ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!

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                                      Your really making friends today. I'd step back from the keyboard and have a little break if I were you. Ryan

                                      O fools, awake! The rites you sacred hold Are but a cheat contrived by men of old, Who lusted after wealth and gained their lust And died in baseness—and their law is dust. al-Ma'arri (973-1057)

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                                      TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                                      ah, learn to spell will ya!

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                                      • D Doctor Nick

                                        Sadly I must agree that these are just her opinions. If you have issue with them there's no need to start name-calling here. Let her know privately. If you do believe in God then you will remember the most important commandment of "love your neighbor". Though she might not agree or believe all the more reason to pray for her if you think that will help. I believe in God but I also live by the addage "all things in moderation" and it seems like for some reason today we can't do anything in moderation:sigh: Even political/religious conversations get into shouting matches between the two extremes while the rest of us who apparently just don't care enough get stuck in the middle:sigh: X| ------------------------------------- Do not do what has already been done.

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                                        rbrad12345
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                                        If this forum is a suitable place for Lauren to say "... I just hate religion ..." then Lauren should be ready for those who disagree to do so with vigor and be prepared to discuss. How is we have come to defend such petty hatreds? :(( I believe it would have been better to say that "Is Lauren behaving like a bigot?" Less accusatory. Hopefully, all of us can see the futility of advocating hatred. Hatred is purely destructive yet most religions promote love and helpfulness. I just don't understand how one could hate such things. It occurs to me that it simply isn't possible to hate Religion. It is the failings of human beings that have brought the blemish to it's history all over the globe. Therefore, it must be a hatred of the people. A hatred of worshipers. People who see a rainbow and remember God's promise. We will only destroy ourselves with our hatreds. Ryan Bradley

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                                          Do you get a kick out of acting like a retard? -- Look straight into the light!

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                                          TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                                          You should know! Retard!

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