Apps you cannot do without
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My god... $10 a month just to use a media player? That's $120 a year. Would you pay $120 for Winamp? Or any other media player? $240 for 2 years... that's more expensive than Windows itself. I refuse to ever use Real products. Every Real product i've ever installed has broken something, then they had the GALL to testify before a senate committee that MS intentionally broke THEIR software (when it turns out it was actuall a bug in THEIR code). -- Where are we going? And why am I in this handbasket?
Erik Funkenbusch wrote: ... Every Real product i've ever installed has broken something ... Amen, brother! I quit using RealPlayer products 3-4 years ago when I unintalled RealPlayer and it broke just about everything I had on my computer. File associations, start menu shortcuts, ... I took a vow to never use their stuff again, and I don't really care to try anything new from them. I consider RealPlayer the ultimate virus. It performs some function until you remove it, then totally hoses your computer. Why in the world would you charge for something that other people are giving away for free?? -Sean ---- "Vigilance With Pride"
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Jason Hooper wrote: MSDOS Prompt :laugh: oh so true! Even with the fancy GUIs of today the good old prompt is invaluable. Jason Hooper wrote: mIRC You are an addict too huh? I was but I have been IRC free for two years now *the room claps* hehe regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge
*clap clap* My name is Jamie and I've been IRC free and clear for 9 months now. J
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Having just helped install a new PC for a friend and having to suggest various apps that I think she needs I thought it would be interesting to ask the experts what they find essential. Here is my list of apps that I cannot do without: - Macromedia Fireworks - Jasc Paint Shop Pro - WinZip - MS Outlook - MS Word - MS Visio - Visual Interdev - SQL Enterprise Manager - CuteFTP - ICQ - Sonork - Acrobat - MS Internet Explorer - Netscape - Notepad (so handy!) - Terminal Services Seeing as most of my development is ASP, HTML and JavaScript I don't need much in the way of debugging tools or compilers. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge
Hmmm... Almost everyone seems to think WinZip is an essential. Why? I absolutely love Alladin Expander (completely free). It automatically extracts things to a preset folder, in a sub-folder of the same name as the zip file. :-D For making zip files, I use the free CoffeCup Zip Wizard, which is quick and easy. (Note: I guess CoffeCup just made some sort of deal with WinZip, so maybe WinZip is the only decent solution to creating zip files now...) :( A few other apps that I use all the time: FlashGet (was JetCar) download manager and accelerator -- plugs in to both IE and Opera. AVG (anti-virus program) Windows MediaPlayer (I like it better than RealPlayer just because it lets you control the volume of the player separately from the wave volume of the entire system.) John
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Jon Sagara wrote: I'm using an *old* version Oh! The DOS version I bet. Yeah that was good. Jon Sagara wrote: I'll have to check out SlowView, though. The URL is http://www.slowview.f2s.com/ Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut
SlowView rocks! Thanks for the link. Jon Sagara "There are lies, damned lies and statistics." -- Mark Twain.
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Norm Almond wrote: and ASP is the future, how niave of you I definitley do not think ASP is the future either. I still don't think though that C++ is either. Speculation is exactly that, so I shall speculate that .NET is the future, especially the ASP.NET component. ASP.NET is out of this world. 3d programming in business apps? Oh sure, they will go for that X| Norm Almond wrote: Maybe you should learn OpenGL or DirectX While I am at it I will also have root canal and an anal probe ;P regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge
Paul Watson wrote: 3d programming in business apps? Oh sure, they will go for that Sure - haven't you seen any Hollywood movies ? ALL GUI's are 3D, doncha know. Just saw Swordfish and apparently a worm is basically a collection of 3D cubes, the more cubes the better the worm. Paul Watson wrote: ASP.NET is out of this world. Our web monkey tells me that ASP is rubbish. I don't know much about that stuff, but I know he uses PHP. Of course .NET will be part of the future, no matter what, because M$ will keep releasing and advertising it until it is. How else could VB have survived ? ;-) Paul Watson wrote: While I am at it I will also have root canal and an anal probe 3D development is the only thing I've set out to teach myself and failed ( although lack of available time was certainly a factor. ) I'll get back on that horse one day, it's really very interesting, and very cool, stuff. Christian After all, there's nothing wrong with an elite as long as I'm allowed to be part of it!! - Mike Burston Oct 23, 2001
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Probably: - mIRC - VC ++ (even when not hacking, I love the html "syntax" coloring!) - MSDOS Prompt - IE 5 - WinZip - PSP 5 :suss: -Jason nirgle.bitdevil.com
This is close to my list. Remove PSP and add media player ( because Winamp does not play movies ), and Virtua Dub, and I'm done. Oh, and VC is no good without Visual Assist and WndTabs. Oh, oh - WORMS WORLD PARTY !!! Now I'm done. Christian After all, there's nothing wrong with an elite as long as I'm allowed to be part of it!! - Mike Burston Oct 23, 2001
Sonork ID 100.10002:MeanManOz
I live in Bob's HungOut now
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Paul Watson wrote: 3d programming in business apps? Oh sure, they will go for that Sure - haven't you seen any Hollywood movies ? ALL GUI's are 3D, doncha know. Just saw Swordfish and apparently a worm is basically a collection of 3D cubes, the more cubes the better the worm. Paul Watson wrote: ASP.NET is out of this world. Our web monkey tells me that ASP is rubbish. I don't know much about that stuff, but I know he uses PHP. Of course .NET will be part of the future, no matter what, because M$ will keep releasing and advertising it until it is. How else could VB have survived ? ;-) Paul Watson wrote: While I am at it I will also have root canal and an anal probe 3D development is the only thing I've set out to teach myself and failed ( although lack of available time was certainly a factor. ) I'll get back on that horse one day, it's really very interesting, and very cool, stuff. Christian After all, there's nothing wrong with an elite as long as I'm allowed to be part of it!! - Mike Burston Oct 23, 2001
Sonork ID 100.10002:MeanManOz
I live in Bob's HungOut now
****Christian Graus wrote: Sure - haven't you seen any Hollywood movies ? ALL GUI's are 3D, doncha know. Just saw Swordfish and apparently a worm is basically a collection of 3D cubes, the more cubes the better the worm. Don't forget the ultra cool beeps, dongs, blips and shrrriks that the GUI makes at every opportunity. (That is my pet hate when a computer is shown in a movie. My computer NEVER makes any sound apart from playing MP3s and they don't blip, beep or dong!) ****Christian Graus wrote: Our web monkey tells me that ASP is rubbish. I don't know much about that stuff, but I know he uses PHP. :laugh: I got up reading the "ASP is rubbish" bit and I made a silent bet with myself that the next sentence would tell me that he used PHP instead. And lo and behold, it came to be! Chris, the whole ASP vs. PHP thing is exactly like the whole Windows vs. Linux war. I lile ASP and happen to think that it is the best server side environment out there. I have used PHP but found it a bit archaic (it uses ECHO (remember from BATCH programming!!!!) and to use an include file you have to start up a text stream, read in the whole file (using a loop) and then close the text stream! In ASP it is one line of code.) Anyway I am not getting involved in another ASP vs. PHP arguement. ****Christian Graus wrote: 3D development is the only thing I've set out to teach myself and failed ( although lack of available time was certainly a factor. ) I'll get back on that horse one day, it's really very interesting, and very cool, stuff. Well actually I wish I had the mathematical know how to do 3D coding. I love the stuff but my 3D skills are limited to 3D Studio Max. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge
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****Christian Graus wrote: Sure - haven't you seen any Hollywood movies ? ALL GUI's are 3D, doncha know. Just saw Swordfish and apparently a worm is basically a collection of 3D cubes, the more cubes the better the worm. Don't forget the ultra cool beeps, dongs, blips and shrrriks that the GUI makes at every opportunity. (That is my pet hate when a computer is shown in a movie. My computer NEVER makes any sound apart from playing MP3s and they don't blip, beep or dong!) ****Christian Graus wrote: Our web monkey tells me that ASP is rubbish. I don't know much about that stuff, but I know he uses PHP. :laugh: I got up reading the "ASP is rubbish" bit and I made a silent bet with myself that the next sentence would tell me that he used PHP instead. And lo and behold, it came to be! Chris, the whole ASP vs. PHP thing is exactly like the whole Windows vs. Linux war. I lile ASP and happen to think that it is the best server side environment out there. I have used PHP but found it a bit archaic (it uses ECHO (remember from BATCH programming!!!!) and to use an include file you have to start up a text stream, read in the whole file (using a loop) and then close the text stream! In ASP it is one line of code.) Anyway I am not getting involved in another ASP vs. PHP arguement. ****Christian Graus wrote: 3D development is the only thing I've set out to teach myself and failed ( although lack of available time was certainly a factor. ) I'll get back on that horse one day, it's really very interesting, and very cool, stuff. Well actually I wish I had the mathematical know how to do 3D coding. I love the stuff but my 3D skills are limited to 3D Studio Max. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge
Paul Watson wrote: I got up reading the "ASP is rubbish" bit and I made a silent bet with myself that the next sentence would tell me that he used PHP instead. And lo and behold, it came to be *grin* Note I was careful to distance myself from the statement, because a. I don't know and b. it's always seemed like a religious war to me. Paul Watson wrote: Well actually I wish I had the mathematical know how to do 3D coding. Yeah, I pretty much got stuck on the part where I had to keep in my head the idea of where I was, where I was facing, where everything else was and how it all effected my next line of code... Christian After all, there's nothing wrong with an elite as long as I'm allowed to be part of it!! - Mike Burston Oct 23, 2001
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I live in Bob's HungOut now
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Hmmm... Almost everyone seems to think WinZip is an essential. Why? I absolutely love Alladin Expander (completely free). It automatically extracts things to a preset folder, in a sub-folder of the same name as the zip file. :-D For making zip files, I use the free CoffeCup Zip Wizard, which is quick and easy. (Note: I guess CoffeCup just made some sort of deal with WinZip, so maybe WinZip is the only decent solution to creating zip files now...) :( A few other apps that I use all the time: FlashGet (was JetCar) download manager and accelerator -- plugs in to both IE and Opera. AVG (anti-virus program) Windows MediaPlayer (I like it better than RealPlayer just because it lets you control the volume of the player separately from the wave volume of the entire system.) John
John Fisher wrote: FlashGet (was JetCar) download manager and accelerator -- plugs in to both IE and Opera. Thanks for tipping me off on this excellent app. Very useful and much better than GoZilla or GetRight :) regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge
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Mine would be
- Visual Studio 6.0/service packs
- IE 6.0
- Visual Studio.NET
- Winzip
- Ws_FTP
- Paint Shop pro 7
- Office 2000
- Swish
- Yahoo Messenger
- Sonork
- Adobe Acrobat Reader
- FaberToys
- In Control
- FlashGet [much better than Getright]
- Pop 3 Protector ;-)
- Google toolbar
- TweakUI
- SlowView [image viewer thats not slow at all]
- TweakUI
- Windows Media Player 7.1 [I stopped using Winamp]
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Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: FlashGet [much better than Getright] Thanks for tipping me off on this excellent app. Very useful and much better than GoZilla or GetRight :) regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge
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Having just helped install a new PC for a friend and having to suggest various apps that I think she needs I thought it would be interesting to ask the experts what they find essential. Here is my list of apps that I cannot do without: - Macromedia Fireworks - Jasc Paint Shop Pro - WinZip - MS Outlook - MS Word - MS Visio - Visual Interdev - SQL Enterprise Manager - CuteFTP - ICQ - Sonork - Acrobat - MS Internet Explorer - Netscape - Notepad (so handy!) - Terminal Services Seeing as most of my development is ASP, HTML and JavaScript I don't need much in the way of debugging tools or compilers. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge
Here goes:
- VC++ 6.0
- PuTTY
- NCFTP
- AOL Instant Messenger
- Acrobat Reader
- Emacs (the only app you really need) ;-)
- ActiveState Python
- Browsers:
- MSIE 6.0
- Mozilla
- Opera 5
- FreeAmp
- Ethereal
- MSDN Docs (not really an app, but still an icon
- WinZip
Tim Lesher http://www.lesher.ws