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  • J James T Johnson

    The current thread on the DOTNET list is talking about Don Box joining MS. Given that the guy is a living legend of COM what do you guys think about this? James Sonork ID: 100.11138 - Hasaki "Not be to confused with 'The VD Project'. Which would be a very bad pr0n flick. :-D" - Michael P Butler Jan. 18, 2002

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    Don is a very clever bloke and Microsoft like to hire the best. Not sure he'd fit in at MS as he likes to do things his own way. (Hence his trouserless lecture at Tech Ed 2000 in Amsterdam) Michael :-)

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    • M Michael P Butler

      Don is a very clever bloke and Microsoft like to hire the best. Not sure he'd fit in at MS as he likes to do things his own way. (Hence his trouserless lecture at Tech Ed 2000 in Amsterdam) Michael :-)

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      David Wulff
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      He *was* wearing shorts, right? :omg: ________________ David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk "My grandfather once told me that there are two kinds of people: those who work and those who take the credit. He told me to try to be in the first group, there was less competition there" - Gandhi

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        He *was* wearing shorts, right? :omg: ________________ David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk "My grandfather once told me that there are two kinds of people: those who work and those who take the credit. He told me to try to be in the first group, there was less competition there" - Gandhi

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        Michael P Butler
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        During the conference he got into trouble with Microsoft for the clothes he was wearing. Some marketing pratt told him to only wear the Microsoft Shirt whilst giving his talks. So for his final session he did as he was asked and wore only a Microsoft Shirt. Michael :-)

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          During the conference he got into trouble with Microsoft for the clothes he was wearing. Some marketing pratt told him to only wear the Microsoft Shirt whilst giving his talks. So for his final session he did as he was asked and wore only a Microsoft Shirt. Michael :-)

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          Michael P Butler wrote: So for his final session he did as he was asked and wore only a Microsoft Shirt. I would have loved to have been there to see the marketting guy's face when Don walked onto the stage! ________________ David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk "My grandfather once told me that there are two kinds of people: those who work and those who take the credit. He told me to try to be in the first group, there was less competition there" - Gandhi

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          • M Michael P Butler

            During the conference he got into trouble with Microsoft for the clothes he was wearing. Some marketing pratt told him to only wear the Microsoft Shirt whilst giving his talks. So for his final session he did as he was asked and wore only a Microsoft Shirt. Michael :-)

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            Nish Nishant
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            LOL He seems to be just right for .NET Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut

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            • T Tim Smith

              ROFL... Where do you guys come up with this stuff? Ask A Conspiracy Theorist Tim Smith Descartes Systems Sciences, Inc.

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              Well, how much C++ stuff have you heard from lipman since he was sucked into the MS void? Not a freakin word. The only publicly acknowledged thing he's said was something about how .NET was the greatest thing since sliced bread. Box is gonna be coerced and brainwashed the same way. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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              • M Michael P Butler

                Don is a very clever bloke and Microsoft like to hire the best. Not sure he'd fit in at MS as he likes to do things his own way. (Hence his trouserless lecture at Tech Ed 2000 in Amsterdam) Michael :-)

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                :confused: Is it really true that the ".Net" term is attributed to him? :confused: [Requesting a serious answer, but reasonably expecting one! :eek: ] Alice thought that running very fast for a long time would get you to somewhere else. " A very slow kind of country!" said the queen. "Now, here , you see, it takes all the running you can do, to keep in the same place".

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                • D David Wulff

                  He *was* wearing shorts, right? :omg: ________________ David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk "My grandfather once told me that there are two kinds of people: those who work and those who take the credit. He told me to try to be in the first group, there was less competition there" - Gandhi

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                  Actually he was wearing (Don) Boxers

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                  • realJSOPR realJSOP

                    Well, how much C++ stuff have you heard from lipman since he was sucked into the MS void? Not a freakin word. The only publicly acknowledged thing he's said was something about how .NET was the greatest thing since sliced bread. Box is gonna be coerced and brainwashed the same way. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                    Nish Nishant
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                    John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: about how .NET was the greatest thing since sliced bread That's what he is being paid for huh? And I guess he's doing his job. And we were all a bunch of fools in thinking he was gonna rescue C++ from the dangerous swamps of .NET Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut

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                    • realJSOPR realJSOP

                      Well, how much C++ stuff have you heard from lipman since he was sucked into the MS void? Not a freakin word. The only publicly acknowledged thing he's said was something about how .NET was the greatest thing since sliced bread. Box is gonna be coerced and brainwashed the same way. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                      LOL The same amount of stuff I heard from him before he went to MS. NONE! To be perfectly honest, Don Box hasn't exactly been floating my boat for the last few years anyway. Tim Smith Descartes Systems Sciences, Inc.

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                      • F Fazlul Kabir

                        Uwe Keim wrote: I think it's the same as with the C++ guy who co-worked with Stroustrup they aquired some months ago: You mean Stanly Lippman? - our new VC++ captain. Uwe Keim wrote: They "buy" them to show the people that they care about the current technology (COM, C++), just in order to burry these guys in their cellar and then pushing their new technology (.NET, C#). Exactly what I was thinking. // Fazlul


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                        Nish Nishant
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                        Fazlul Kabir wrote: You mean Stanly Lippman? - our new VC++ captain :-) Is that what he is know as nowadays? VC++ Captain!!! Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut

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                        • T Tim Smith

                          LOL The same amount of stuff I heard from him before he went to MS. NONE! To be perfectly honest, Don Box hasn't exactly been floating my boat for the last few years anyway. Tim Smith Descartes Systems Sciences, Inc.

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                          Nish Nishant
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                          What I am scared of is that Chris will put up a question board and then interview this character with these questions. Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut

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                          • D David Wulff

                            Michael P Butler wrote: So for his final session he did as he was asked and wore only a Microsoft Shirt. I would have loved to have been there to see the marketting guy's face when Don walked onto the stage! ________________ David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk "My grandfather once told me that there are two kinds of people: those who work and those who take the credit. He told me to try to be in the first group, there was less competition there" - Gandhi

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                            Nish Nishant
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                            David Wulff wrote: I would have loved to have been there to see the marketting guy's face when Don walked onto the stage If he was a typical Microsoft Brat he'd prolly have taken off his trousers too just to give the impression that the whole thing was planned well in advance and was all part of the show. Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut

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                            • M Michael P Butler

                              Don is a very clever bloke and Microsoft like to hire the best. Not sure he'd fit in at MS as he likes to do things his own way. (Hence his trouserless lecture at Tech Ed 2000 in Amsterdam) Michael :-)

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                              Victor Vogelpoel
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                              Well, TechEd 2001 (Barcelona) he had even less clothes on: he was in a bathtub (naked?) explaing SOAP: Photo 1 Photo 2 Photo 3 Photo 4 Photo 5 (More TechEd 2001 photos at http://www.ergens.com/victor/fotos.php.)

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                                Michael P Butler wrote: So for his final session he did as he was asked and wore only a Microsoft Shirt. I would have loved to have been there to see the marketting guy's face when Don walked onto the stage! ________________ David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk "My grandfather once told me that there are two kinds of people: those who work and those who take the credit. He told me to try to be in the first group, there was less competition there" - Gandhi

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                                Nobody knew. He stood behind a podium for the entire session and then came out from behind it at the end. His COM dance in one of his previous sessions was the coolest thing at the conference. Michael :-)

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                                • V Victor Vogelpoel

                                  Well, TechEd 2001 (Barcelona) he had even less clothes on: he was in a bathtub (naked?) explaing SOAP: Photo 1 Photo 2 Photo 3 Photo 4 Photo 5 (More TechEd 2001 photos at http://www.ergens.com/victor/fotos.php.)

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                                  Jon Sagara
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                                  That's just disturbing. Jon Sagara What about :bob:? "Teve Torbes, I've only got one thing to say to you: Tuck Off!" -- Dob Bole

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                                  • J James T Johnson

                                    The current thread on the DOTNET list is talking about Don Box joining MS. Given that the guy is a living legend of COM what do you guys think about this? James Sonork ID: 100.11138 - Hasaki "Not be to confused with 'The VD Project'. Which would be a very bad pr0n flick. :-D" - Michael P Butler Jan. 18, 2002

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                                    Jim Howard
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                                    I took "Essential COM" from Don's Company, Developmentor, in 1996. He taught the course. He said a couple of times that he really wished he could work at Microsoft, but that he couldn't afford the pay cut. I suspect they resolved that problem for him. Jim

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                                    • U Uwe Keim

                                      I think it's the same as with the C++ guy who co-worked with Stroustrup they aquired some months ago: They "buy" them to show the people that they care about the current technology (COM, C++), just in order to burry these guys in their cellar and then pushing their new technology (.NET, C#). -- See me: www.magerquark.de

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                                      Christian Graus
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                                      Stanley Lippman and I'm so glad someone else can see past the haze. Christian I have come to clean zee pooollll. - Michael Martin Dec 30, 2001

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                                        John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: about how .NET was the greatest thing since sliced bread That's what he is being paid for huh? And I guess he's doing his job. And we were all a bunch of fools in thinking he was gonna rescue C++ from the dangerous swamps of .NET Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut

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                                        Christian Graus
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                                        Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: That's what he is being paid for huh? And I guess he's doing his job. No, no, no. The big fanfare was that his JOB is to make VC++ standards compliant. I said right away that they don't need him to do that, they only need him to create the illusion of finally wanting to do it. Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: And we were all a bunch of fools in thinking he was gonna rescue C++ from the dangerous swamps of .NET Not me. Christian I have come to clean zee pooollll. - Michael Martin Dec 30, 2001

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                                        • J James T Johnson

                                          The current thread on the DOTNET list is talking about Don Box joining MS. Given that the guy is a living legend of COM what do you guys think about this? James Sonork ID: 100.11138 - Hasaki "Not be to confused with 'The VD Project'. Which would be a very bad pr0n flick. :-D" - Michael P Butler Jan. 18, 2002

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                                          David Cunningham
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                                          here's the skinny. Here's a snip from Don's site: Fact: I am now an Architect at Microsoft Corporation. Fact: My first day of employment was January 7, 2002. Fact: I am part of the .NET Developer Platform team and am working on web service infrastructure. Fact: My family and I will be living in Washington state as of March 2002. Until then, I am shuttling back and forth, spending weekends in LA and 4-5 days a week in WA. Fact: I am keeping my column at MSDN magazine. Fact: I am still a series editor at Addison Wesley. Fact: I am still going to write Volume 2 of Essential .NET, but not in 2002. Fact: I will continue to hang out on the DOTNET list. Fact: I will still be on the conference circuit, but nowhere near as much as before, especially in 2002. David http://www.dundas.com

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