Ripping your own CD to iPod not legal
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Christian Graus wrote:
As far as I can see, the position has not changed since it wasn't legal for me to copy LPs to a cassette for my walkman.
Ouch. I've been copying CDs to tape (for playing in the car), and LPs to tape and CD (for playing... anywhere, since i don't have a turntable anymore) for years, and wouldn't have guessed that it was illegal. Just think - if it wasn't for this noble organization, i might have gone my whole life not realizing what a lawbreaker i am...
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I guess my point is, it's illegal, but unless you act in such a way that they're likely to catch you, it probably doesn't matter. Gay lovin' ( trying to remember that this is not the soapbox ) is illegal in this state as well, but no-one gets arrested. Why is it illegal ? I'm not sure. But, to me, this is a bit similar. The record companies want to make a point, but the fact is, my MP3 player contains the last 10 or so albums I bought, and there's no way they could ever find that out, so who cares ? Now, if I was to run an FTP server, and they raided me, they may find in my MP3 player some extra charges they could throw at me. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
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Christian Graus wrote:
As far as I can see, the position has not changed since it wasn't legal for me to copy LPs to a cassette for my walkman.
Ouch. I've been copying CDs to tape (for playing in the car), and LPs to tape and CD (for playing... anywhere, since i don't have a turntable anymore) for years, and wouldn't have guessed that it was illegal. Just think - if it wasn't for this noble organization, i might have gone my whole life not realizing what a lawbreaker i am...
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Shog9 wrote:
Just think - if it wasn't for this noble organization, i might have gone my whole life not realizing what a lawbreaker i am...
Bah. Rip a copy of Judas Priest - Breaking the Law, and be happy. :rolleyes:
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*shock me* Story here[^] - hopefully not a repost ... I say X|
:..::. Douglas H. Troy ::..
Bad Astronomy |Development Blogging|Viksoe.dk's SiteAFIK--This is an RIAA position, not a legally accepted definition of fair use. Though that may change. The article notes that this is a change even in the RIAAs definition of fair use, and I hope that that inconsistancy bites them in the end. jim
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
If someone is next to you playing it, you better cover your ears or be sued.
I think there already was something about that. Marc Pensieve
:omg::wtf::omg::wtf: Jeremy Falcon
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Only if they paid to sit next to you...such as if you buy a girl a drink :) Tom Archer (blog) Program Manager MSDN Online (Windows Vista and Visual C++) MICROSOFT
Can we still sing or hum, or is that open for lawsuit too? :laugh: Jeremy Falcon
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Christian Graus wrote:
As far as I can see, the position has not changed since it wasn't legal for me to copy LPs to a cassette for my walkman.
Ouch. I've been copying CDs to tape (for playing in the car), and LPs to tape and CD (for playing... anywhere, since i don't have a turntable anymore) for years, and wouldn't have guessed that it was illegal. Just think - if it wasn't for this noble organization, i might have gone my whole life not realizing what a lawbreaker i am...
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Shog9 wrote:
Just think - if it wasn't for this noble organization, i might have gone my whole life not realizing what a lawbreaker i am...
I have a feeling the RIAA will say farting is illegal next because it can carry a tone. :rolleyes: Jeremy Falcon
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Actually, it says 'not necessarily'. As far as I can see, the position has not changed since it wasn't legal for me to copy LPs to a cassette for my walkman. The difference, of course, is that every blank tape I bought gave money to the record company anyhow. But then, I used to use the same tapes over and over... Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
Christian Graus wrote:
wasn't legal for me to copy LPs to a cassette for my walkman
i don't believe that's true. in fact, i remember it being encouraged.
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Bad Astronomy |Development Blogging|Viksoe.dk's Site<insert lengthy list of explitives followed by the bird here />
Found on Bash.org [erno] hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds to ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my apartment it is.
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Shog9 wrote:
Just think - if it wasn't for this noble organization, i might have gone my whole life not realizing what a lawbreaker i am...
I have a feeling the RIAA will say farting is illegal next because it can carry a tone. :rolleyes: Jeremy Falcon
If I could fart "Oops, I did it again", I would contribute a recording to the world. :)
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this is bullcrap. fair use is defined by the law, not the RIAA. idiots.
ahz wrote:
fair use is defined by the law, not the RIAA
nope. not these days. this[^] might clear up your misunderstanding. ;) Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker -- modified at 18:05 Wednesday 22nd February, 2006
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:wtf: Next thing you know, the RIAA will be saying it's unlawful to hear the music. If someone is next to you playing it, you better cover your ears or be sued. Jeremy Falcon
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ahz wrote:
fair use is defined by the law, not the RIAA
nope. not these days. this[^] might clear up your misunderstanding. ;) Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker -- modified at 18:05 Wednesday 22nd February, 2006
nope, wrong. i've done my research.
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If I could fart "Oops, I did it again", I would contribute a recording to the world. :)
Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:
fart "Oops, I did it again",
lol. that's funny, but since it would be a transformative, parody work, it would be protected under copyright fair use.
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nope, wrong. i've done my research.
if you don't think the RIAA, along with the MPAA and the rest of the media cartels, are literally writing our copyright laws, then you really need to do some more of that research. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker
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nope, wrong. i've done my research.
Chris is just being dramatically bitter. Next he'll post something that casts doubt on the abilities of our free market economy to self-regulate and ultimately improve the lives of you and i via pure economic forces. He may even go so far as to dispute the intrinsic freedom and fairness of our markets. Of course, these are just the feverish ramblings of his addled mind, tormented day and night by his black, hate-filled heart. Ignore them; tomorrow will be as today, you'll always be safe and warm... :)
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Can we still sing or hum, or is that open for lawsuit too? :laugh: Jeremy Falcon
I guess that depends on how bad you are ;) Tom Archer (blog) Program Manager MSDN Online (Windows Vista and Visual C++) MICROSOFT
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Chris is just being dramatically bitter. Next he'll post something that casts doubt on the abilities of our free market economy to self-regulate and ultimately improve the lives of you and i via pure economic forces. He may even go so far as to dispute the intrinsic freedom and fairness of our markets. Of course, these are just the feverish ramblings of his addled mind, tormented day and night by his black, hate-filled heart. Ignore them; tomorrow will be as today, you'll always be safe and warm... :)
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that's good. made me smile ;P;P:-D:-D
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if you don't think the RIAA, along with the MPAA and the rest of the media cartels, are literally writing our copyright laws, then you really need to do some more of that research. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker
Chris Losinger wrote:
media cartels, are literally writing our copyright laws,
yeah, verily, I believe it. But we're not there yet. Of course, I could be wrong, but my current understanding is that the way the laws (and court cases) are right now support what I have said.
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*shock me* Story here[^] - hopefully not a repost ... I say X|
:..::. Douglas H. Troy ::..
Bad Astronomy |Development Blogging|Viksoe.dk's SiteWhat if I make my own CD eventually, from my own music... do I have to ask permission of myself? Do I have to put it in writing in order to prove I gave myself permission to copy my own music? I am not surprised actually.... disappointed, but not surprised. It is always better for any company to sell the same song a half-dozen times, once in CD format, once in MP3, once in AAC, once in MP4, etc. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Chris Losinger wrote:
media cartels, are literally writing our copyright laws,
yeah, verily, I believe it. But we're not there yet. Of course, I could be wrong, but my current understanding is that the way the laws (and court cases) are right now support what I have said.
as i understand it, the basic definition of "fair use" is still pretty much the same as it's always been. so, in that sense, you're 100% correct. but media companies are doing their best to chip away at what we're legally allowed to do with those fair use rights - for one example, we have the right to use small samples of works in our own stuff. but the media companies are trying desperately to make it legally impossible for us to actually obtain those samples by wrapping them in DRM schemes that you can't legally break. it's like being legally able to take a drug that's becoming absolutely illegal to buy, sell or distribute - eventualyl it's not much of a right. and Congress is not on our side. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker -- modified at 22:09 Wednesday 22nd February, 2006