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  • V Vivi Chellappa

    jithAtran wrote:

    All Indian langauges are came out from Sanskrit or 'Devenagiri'.Though Tamilians would not agree..

    So, tell us what characted in Sanskrit you would use to correctly represent the last character in the word "Tamil".

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    I dont understand what you have fully meant.but I did understand that i have got a rebel status in this discussion So "white flag" ...I surrender. ofcourse,All present day indian languages are derived from sanskrit.Ahathiar (Agasthya in sanskrit)who wrote the first Tamil grammer book 'Tholkaapiyam' also was a sanskrit scholar . All indian languages have the same letteres of sanskrit though the script varies (additional letters would be very few )and also there many words which is too similar in many languages which are borrowed from sanskrit.Even if you were a malayali and you dont know a single word in Telugu ,you may understand what a telugu guy speaks ,if you closely listen. Thats the similarity of indian languages sanskrit words like premam,komalam,vanam(Forest) etc are there in most of the indian languages...and apart from this aome common words are there in south indian languages like "Alla","Illa" which is not from sanskrit.

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    • N Nish Nishant

      Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

      I doubt if Konkani is related to Tulu.

      Not Konkani. Kongini is related to Tulu. Kongini and Konkani are unrelated languages. Regards, Nish


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      Vikram A Punathambekar
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      Ah, ok. I thought it was a variation in spelling. :-O Cheers, Vikram.


      I don't know and you don't either. Militant Agnostic

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      • N Nish Nishant

        While reading those threads below about using English as a universal language, I was interested by Vivek's comments about how all the Indian CPians would have to use English to communicate with each other because we have 200 languages in India. In fact, when Smitha and I were planning to move out of Kerala for a while, we abandoned any plans of moving to other Indian states, since we'd have a serious communication issue, specially since I don't speak Hindi and Smitha's Hindi would be highly ineffective except for very basic sentences. Our only option was to move to an English-speaking country. Accents may differ, but it's still the same language. In fact we had a lot of trouble at the Chandigarh airport (we went there for Canadian Visa stamping) because no one in the airport spoke English (at least the ones we met) and we had a tough time figuring out where the baggage claim was. We also had a lot of trouble telling autorickshaw drivers where we needed to go, buying stuff from shops, ordering food, asking for drinking water etc. [mod] Here's a partial list of Indian languages :- http://www.kamat.com/indica/diversity/languages.htm[^] [/mod] Regards, Nish


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        -- modified at 12:12 Friday 5th May, 2006

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        Dinuj Nath
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        Basically politics has ruined this country. When Hindi was declared as the national language many leaders from south and some from west bengal said it was thrust upon them and they discouraged it. West Bengal even discouraged English, now they have realised their mistake. Hindi was selected because it was spoken by a lot of people. By Hindi I mean dialects based on hindi too. Andhra was created on linguistic lines. Now there is talk about Telengana within Andhra, its so sick. I am a Bengali and I have no problems with Hindi. Knowing Hindi is very helpful in this country. I speak four languages(Including English). I can understand some Punjabi, some Gujrati, some Marathi, some Oriya. This is because these languages belong to same stock. Now south indian languages are a problem. There are so different. I am just dying to learn one. For that I will have to move south where people will speak their language with me.

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        • V Vivi Chellappa

          VuNic wrote:

          but my Delhi friends say what he speaks differs a lot from their version

          You better believe it. On a train to Bombay from Madras, there was this Telugu woman who got in at Cudappah who was talikng to the porter in Hindi/Urdu... except that instead of saying "idher" and "udher" she used "ikkada" and "akkada" right in the middle of her Hindi sentences. Strangest Hindi I have ever heard. I had to pinch myself to make sure I wasn't dreaming. :-D

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          Vivic wrote:

          there was this Telugu woman who got in at Cudappah who was talikng to the porter in Hindi/Urdu... except that instead of saying "idher" and "udher" she used "ikkada" and "akkada" right in the middle of her Hindi sentences.

          :laugh: She probably did not know enough Hindi and subbed Telugu words instead!! :-) As for the 'Hindi' people speak here in Hyderabad is a mix of Urdu and Hindi,some Marathi is also gets in,near border districts of Nizamabad and Adilabad. While Telugu speakers speak the language , they mentally translate from Telugu idiom.While this passes muster here in Hyderabad ,if you go up North people do a double take at some of the words that are used since they wont fit into the context.I know because it happened to us when we toured Delhi,Agra etc.

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            Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

            because we have 200 languages in India.

            Wow. How'd that happen? Seriously. What's the history of your country's languages? (no, don't tell me, there's a wikipedia link, right?) Marc Pensieve Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson

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            That's still more than 5,000,000 peoiple per dialect. Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004

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