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  • T Tom Archer

    Years ago a popular mechanism for determining the various roles of different people in the company and their impact or relationship to the product being developed was defined using CARD. C = Concerned (Interested, but no direct impact) A = Accountable (Basically this person is fired if it fails) R = Responsible (People that do the work) D = ??? (Can't remember, but probably the people impacted by the product) Does anyone remember this and can give me a link to it's formal definition? Also, I believe another similar acronym took its place a few years back, but I can't recall its name either.

    Tom Archer (blog) Program Manager - Windows SDK Headers, Libraries & Tools MICROSOFT

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    Chris Meech
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    I think it stood for Dodo. You know, the users. ;P

    Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar]

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    • T Tom Archer

      Years ago a popular mechanism for determining the various roles of different people in the company and their impact or relationship to the product being developed was defined using CARD. C = Concerned (Interested, but no direct impact) A = Accountable (Basically this person is fired if it fails) R = Responsible (People that do the work) D = ??? (Can't remember, but probably the people impacted by the product) Does anyone remember this and can give me a link to it's formal definition? Also, I believe another similar acronym took its place a few years back, but I can't recall its name either.

      Tom Archer (blog) Program Manager - Windows SDK Headers, Libraries & Tools MICROSOFT

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      Chris Maunder
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      D = Deflector (Someone who deflects the responsibility and actual work onto others while taking credit for the final product)

      cheers, Chris Maunder

      CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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        When did responsibility and accountability become separated? No wonder this model died a death so deep it can't be found googling. What you looking it up for? Is this for a new Vista team management model? ;P Marc

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        Rama Krishna Vavilala
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        Marc Clifton wrote:

        Is this for a new Vista team management model?

        I notice that you are being bad to Tom lately:) -- modified at 14:38 Tuesday 1st August, 2006


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          When did responsibility and accountability become separated? No wonder this model died a death so deep it can't be found googling. What you looking it up for? Is this for a new Vista team management model? ;P Marc

          XPressTier

          Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson
          People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
          There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer

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          Tom Archer
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          Actually I disagree with that. Responsibility and accountability are veyr much different. For example, many people were responsible for the success of the Vista Dev Center - content strategy, site management, document, etc. However, there's only one person that "owns" it in terms of accountability - the ultimate decision maker - which was me. Therefore, it if failed, I would get fired.

          Tom Archer (blog) Program Manager - Windows SDK Headers, Libraries & Tools MICROSOFT

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          • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

            Marc Clifton wrote:

            Is this for a new Vista team management model?

            I notice that you are being bad to Tom lately:) -- modified at 14:38 Tuesday 1st August, 2006


            My Blog

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            I don't take Marc too seriously. He just comes across a bit close-minded if someone has a different opinion than him - so in other words, he's more normal that he'd like to admit :)

            Tom Archer (blog) Program Manager - Windows SDK Headers, Libraries & Tools MICROSOFT

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            • T Tom Archer

              Years ago a popular mechanism for determining the various roles of different people in the company and their impact or relationship to the product being developed was defined using CARD. C = Concerned (Interested, but no direct impact) A = Accountable (Basically this person is fired if it fails) R = Responsible (People that do the work) D = ??? (Can't remember, but probably the people impacted by the product) Does anyone remember this and can give me a link to it's formal definition? Also, I believe another similar acronym took its place a few years back, but I can't recall its name either.

              Tom Archer (blog) Program Manager - Windows SDK Headers, Libraries & Tools MICROSOFT

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              Is this what you are looking for, or is methodology too new ? http://www.enterprise-architecture.info/Images/Architecture%20Score%20Card/Architecture%20Score%20Card%20UK.htm[^]

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              • T Tom Archer

                Years ago a popular mechanism for determining the various roles of different people in the company and their impact or relationship to the product being developed was defined using CARD. C = Concerned (Interested, but no direct impact) A = Accountable (Basically this person is fired if it fails) R = Responsible (People that do the work) D = ??? (Can't remember, but probably the people impacted by the product) Does anyone remember this and can give me a link to it's formal definition? Also, I believe another similar acronym took its place a few years back, but I can't recall its name either.

                Tom Archer (blog) Program Manager - Windows SDK Headers, Libraries & Tools MICROSOFT

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                Wjousts
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                We use RACI R = Responsible A = Accountable C = Consulted (offers advice or opinions) I = Informed (kept in the loop) Might you D be some variation of our I?

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                  D = Deflector (Someone who deflects the responsibility and actual work onto others while taking credit for the final product)

                  cheers, Chris Maunder

                  CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                  Paul Conrad
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                  Chris Maunder wrote:

                  D = Deflector (Someone who deflects the responsibility and actual work onto others while taking credit for the final product)

                  :laugh: Have run across those types.


                  That's no moon, it's a space station. - Obi-wan Kenobi

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                  • T Tom Archer

                    I don't take Marc too seriously. He just comes across a bit close-minded if someone has a different opinion than him - so in other words, he's more normal that he'd like to admit :)

                    Tom Archer (blog) Program Manager - Windows SDK Headers, Libraries & Tools MICROSOFT

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                    Tom Archer - MSFT wrote:

                    I don't take Marc too seriously. He just comes across a bit close-minded if someone has a different opinion than him - so in other words, he's more normal that he'd like to admit

                    Ouch! :laugh:

                    :josh: My WPF Blog[^]

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                      Tom Archer - MSFT wrote:

                      I don't take Marc too seriously. He just comes across a bit close-minded if someone has a different opinion than him - so in other words, he's more normal that he'd like to admit

                      Ouch! :laugh:

                      :josh: My WPF Blog[^]

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                      Josh Smith wrote:

                      Ouch!

                      And you wonder why I don't like him. Actually, I have some other reasons. Marc

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                      Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson
                      People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
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                      • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                        Marc Clifton wrote:

                        Is this for a new Vista team management model?

                        I notice that you are being bad to Tom lately:) -- modified at 14:38 Tuesday 1st August, 2006


                        My Blog

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                        Marc Clifton
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                        Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                        I notice that you are being bad to Tom lately

                        Well, he did get a lot of flack for that sig, which you will note, he did change. Marc

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                        Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson
                        People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                        There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer

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                        • T Tom Archer

                          Actually I disagree with that. Responsibility and accountability are veyr much different. For example, many people were responsible for the success of the Vista Dev Center - content strategy, site management, document, etc. However, there's only one person that "owns" it in terms of accountability - the ultimate decision maker - which was me. Therefore, it if failed, I would get fired.

                          Tom Archer (blog) Program Manager - Windows SDK Headers, Libraries & Tools MICROSOFT

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                          Marc Clifton
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                          Tom Archer - MSFT wrote:

                          Responsibility and accountability are veyr much different.

                          I choose to be close-minded on that view. ;P Marc

                          XPressTier

                          Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson
                          People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                          There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer

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                          • C Chris Maunder

                            D = Deflector (Someone who deflects the responsibility and actual work onto others while taking credit for the final product)

                            cheers, Chris Maunder

                            CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                            David Crow
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                            Chris Maunder wrote:

                            D = Deflector (Someone who deflects the responsibility and actual work onto others while taking credit for the final product)

                            a.k.a. delegator.


                            "Money talks. When my money starts to talk, I get a bill to shut it up." - Frank

                            "Judge not by the eye but by the heart." - Native American Proverb

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                            • T Tom Archer

                              Years ago a popular mechanism for determining the various roles of different people in the company and their impact or relationship to the product being developed was defined using CARD. C = Concerned (Interested, but no direct impact) A = Accountable (Basically this person is fired if it fails) R = Responsible (People that do the work) D = ??? (Can't remember, but probably the people impacted by the product) Does anyone remember this and can give me a link to it's formal definition? Also, I believe another similar acronym took its place a few years back, but I can't recall its name either.

                              Tom Archer (blog) Program Manager - Windows SDK Headers, Libraries & Tools MICROSOFT

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                              Duncan Edwards Jones
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                              C = Corporate R = Rhetoric U = Updated D = Daily ;P

                              '--8<------------------------ Ex Datis: Duncan Jones Merrion Computing Ltd

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                              • C Chris Maunder

                                D = Deflector (Someone who deflects the responsibility and actual work onto others while taking credit for the final product)

                                cheers, Chris Maunder

                                CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                                Christopher Duncan
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                                :laugh: "Scotty, Deflectors up!" "Captain, I'm concerned that the person responsible for the dilithium crystals appears to be smoking them. I canna be held accountable for wha' happens if you keep them up too long..."

                                Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalStrategyConsulting.com

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                                • M Marc Clifton

                                  Josh Smith wrote:

                                  Ouch!

                                  And you wonder why I don't like him. Actually, I have some other reasons. Marc

                                  XPressTier

                                  Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson
                                  People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                                  There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer

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                                  Dude, you don't even know me - and are too closed-minded to even try so I'll return you to your life of alternating between bitching about those that judge you and judging others.

                                  Tom Archer (blog) Program Manager - Windows SDK Headers, Libraries & Tools MICROSOFT

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                                    Is this what you are looking for, or is methodology too new ? http://www.enterprise-architecture.info/Images/Architecture%20Score%20Card/Architecture%20Score%20Card%20UK.htm[^]

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                                    Tom Archer
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                                    Thanks Richard!

                                    Tom Archer (blog) Program Manager - Windows SDK Headers, Libraries & Tools MICROSOFT

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                                      We use RACI R = Responsible A = Accountable C = Consulted (offers advice or opinions) I = Informed (kept in the loop) Might you D be some variation of our I?

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                                      Tom Archer
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                                      Yeah, that's it :rolleyes: :) -- modified at 13:58 Thursday 3rd August, 2006

                                      Tom Archer (blog) Program Manager - Windows SDK Headers, Libraries & Tools MICROSOFT

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                                      • M Marc Clifton

                                        Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                                        I notice that you are being bad to Tom lately

                                        Well, he did get a lot of flack for that sig, which you will note, he did change. Marc

                                        XPressTier

                                        Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson
                                        People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                                        There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer

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                                        Tom Archer
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                                        Yep. I made a mistake, owned up to it as soon as someone drew my attention to it and fixed it immediately. I can definitely see where that makes me terrible :rolleyes:

                                        Tom Archer (blog) Program Manager - Windows SDK Headers, Libraries & Tools MICROSOFT

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                                        • T Tom Archer

                                          Dude, you don't even know me - and are too closed-minded to even try so I'll return you to your life of alternating between bitching about those that judge you and judging others.

                                          Tom Archer (blog) Program Manager - Windows SDK Headers, Libraries & Tools MICROSOFT

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                                          Tom Archer - MSFT wrote:

                                          Dude, you don't even know me - and are too closed-minded to even try so I'll return you to your life of alternating between bitching about those that judge you and judging others.

                                          :-D Marc

                                          XPressTier

                                          Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson
                                          People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                                          There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer

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