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  • J Josh Smith

    Tom Archer - MSFT wrote:

    I don't take Marc too seriously. He just comes across a bit close-minded if someone has a different opinion than him - so in other words, he's more normal that he'd like to admit

    Ouch! :laugh:

    :josh: My WPF Blog[^]

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    Marc Clifton
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    Josh Smith wrote:

    Ouch!

    And you wonder why I don't like him. Actually, I have some other reasons. Marc

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    • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

      Marc Clifton wrote:

      Is this for a new Vista team management model?

      I notice that you are being bad to Tom lately:) -- modified at 14:38 Tuesday 1st August, 2006


      My Blog

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      Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

      I notice that you are being bad to Tom lately

      Well, he did get a lot of flack for that sig, which you will note, he did change. Marc

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      Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson
      People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
      There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer

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      • T Tom Archer

        Actually I disagree with that. Responsibility and accountability are veyr much different. For example, many people were responsible for the success of the Vista Dev Center - content strategy, site management, document, etc. However, there's only one person that "owns" it in terms of accountability - the ultimate decision maker - which was me. Therefore, it if failed, I would get fired.

        Tom Archer (blog) Program Manager - Windows SDK Headers, Libraries & Tools MICROSOFT

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        Tom Archer - MSFT wrote:

        Responsibility and accountability are veyr much different.

        I choose to be close-minded on that view. ;P Marc

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        Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson
        People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
        There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer

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        • C Chris Maunder

          D = Deflector (Someone who deflects the responsibility and actual work onto others while taking credit for the final product)

          cheers, Chris Maunder

          CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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          David Crow
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          Chris Maunder wrote:

          D = Deflector (Someone who deflects the responsibility and actual work onto others while taking credit for the final product)

          a.k.a. delegator.


          "Money talks. When my money starts to talk, I get a bill to shut it up." - Frank

          "Judge not by the eye but by the heart." - Native American Proverb

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          • T Tom Archer

            Years ago a popular mechanism for determining the various roles of different people in the company and their impact or relationship to the product being developed was defined using CARD. C = Concerned (Interested, but no direct impact) A = Accountable (Basically this person is fired if it fails) R = Responsible (People that do the work) D = ??? (Can't remember, but probably the people impacted by the product) Does anyone remember this and can give me a link to it's formal definition? Also, I believe another similar acronym took its place a few years back, but I can't recall its name either.

            Tom Archer (blog) Program Manager - Windows SDK Headers, Libraries & Tools MICROSOFT

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            C = Corporate R = Rhetoric U = Updated D = Daily ;P

            '--8<------------------------ Ex Datis: Duncan Jones Merrion Computing Ltd

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            • C Chris Maunder

              D = Deflector (Someone who deflects the responsibility and actual work onto others while taking credit for the final product)

              cheers, Chris Maunder

              CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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              Christopher Duncan
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              :laugh: "Scotty, Deflectors up!" "Captain, I'm concerned that the person responsible for the dilithium crystals appears to be smoking them. I canna be held accountable for wha' happens if you keep them up too long..."

              Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalStrategyConsulting.com

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              • M Marc Clifton

                Josh Smith wrote:

                Ouch!

                And you wonder why I don't like him. Actually, I have some other reasons. Marc

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                Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson
                People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer

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                Tom Archer
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                Dude, you don't even know me - and are too closed-minded to even try so I'll return you to your life of alternating between bitching about those that judge you and judging others.

                Tom Archer (blog) Program Manager - Windows SDK Headers, Libraries & Tools MICROSOFT

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                • L Lost User

                  Is this what you are looking for, or is methodology too new ? http://www.enterprise-architecture.info/Images/Architecture%20Score%20Card/Architecture%20Score%20Card%20UK.htm[^]

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                  Tom Archer
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                  Thanks Richard!

                  Tom Archer (blog) Program Manager - Windows SDK Headers, Libraries & Tools MICROSOFT

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                  • W Wjousts

                    We use RACI R = Responsible A = Accountable C = Consulted (offers advice or opinions) I = Informed (kept in the loop) Might you D be some variation of our I?

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                    Tom Archer
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                    Yeah, that's it :rolleyes: :) -- modified at 13:58 Thursday 3rd August, 2006

                    Tom Archer (blog) Program Manager - Windows SDK Headers, Libraries & Tools MICROSOFT

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                    • M Marc Clifton

                      Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                      I notice that you are being bad to Tom lately

                      Well, he did get a lot of flack for that sig, which you will note, he did change. Marc

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                      Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson
                      People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                      There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer

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                      Tom Archer
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                      Yep. I made a mistake, owned up to it as soon as someone drew my attention to it and fixed it immediately. I can definitely see where that makes me terrible :rolleyes:

                      Tom Archer (blog) Program Manager - Windows SDK Headers, Libraries & Tools MICROSOFT

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                      • T Tom Archer

                        Dude, you don't even know me - and are too closed-minded to even try so I'll return you to your life of alternating between bitching about those that judge you and judging others.

                        Tom Archer (blog) Program Manager - Windows SDK Headers, Libraries & Tools MICROSOFT

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                        Tom Archer - MSFT wrote:

                        Dude, you don't even know me - and are too closed-minded to even try so I'll return you to your life of alternating between bitching about those that judge you and judging others.

                        :-D Marc

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                        Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson
                        People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                        There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer

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