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    The Wizard of Doze
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    "my plan is to contribute $10,000 to the .NET open source ecosystem. $5,000 from me, and a matching donation of $5,000 from Microsoft"[^]

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      "my plan is to contribute $10,000 to the .NET open source ecosystem. $5,000 from me, and a matching donation of $5,000 from Microsoft"[^]

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      Member 96
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      I don't know what the angle is on that, but any site / publication that mentions the Free Software Foundation or Richard Stallman or Lawrence Lessig in even a slightly positive manner is something working programmers should boycott and avoid like the plague.


      "I don't want more choice. I just want better things!" - Edina Monsoon

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        I don't know what the angle is on that, but any site / publication that mentions the Free Software Foundation or Richard Stallman or Lawrence Lessig in even a slightly positive manner is something working programmers should boycott and avoid like the plague.


        "I don't want more choice. I just want better things!" - Edina Monsoon

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        l a u r e n
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        you know whilst i agree that RS et al are wayyyyyyy to far down the road to be taken 100% seriously i do think it's important he exists as he keeps the other side at bay somewhat ... i wouldn't like to see the software world without them around to be the nutty extreme "rebels" just my 2c

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          I don't know what the angle is on that, but any site / publication that mentions the Free Software Foundation or Richard Stallman or Lawrence Lessig in even a slightly positive manner is something working programmers should boycott and avoid like the plague.


          "I don't want more choice. I just want better things!" - Edina Monsoon

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          Marc Clifton
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          John Cardinal wrote:

          the Free Software Foundation or Richard Stallman or Lawrence Lessig

          Newbie time! Why? I've heard fo the FSF but don't know anything about it, and who are those two guys and why boycott them? Marc

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            John Cardinal wrote:

            the Free Software Foundation or Richard Stallman or Lawrence Lessig

            Newbie time! Why? I've heard fo the FSF but don't know anything about it, and who are those two guys and why boycott them? Marc

            Thyme In The Country
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            Jim Crafton
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            Richard Stallman[^] (sometimes referred to as RMS) is the author of the GPL, written, as far as I can understand, mainly because he was pissed off at some proprietary vendors he was working with at the time. He founded the FSF (I think that's correct) and Lessig[^] is law prof at Stanford that has some connection with FSF as well as tending towards an extremely liberal (if that's the right word) interpretation of copyright. As far as I am concerned they are both goober heads.

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              Richard Stallman[^] (sometimes referred to as RMS) is the author of the GPL, written, as far as I can understand, mainly because he was pissed off at some proprietary vendors he was working with at the time. He founded the FSF (I think that's correct) and Lessig[^] is law prof at Stanford that has some connection with FSF as well as tending towards an extremely liberal (if that's the right word) interpretation of copyright. As far as I am concerned they are both goober heads.

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              Marc Clifton
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              Jim Crafton wrote:

              As far as I am concerned they are both goober heads.

              :) Ah ok, that's enough information for me. Marc

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                Richard Stallman[^] (sometimes referred to as RMS) is the author of the GPL, written, as far as I can understand, mainly because he was pissed off at some proprietary vendors he was working with at the time. He founded the FSF (I think that's correct) and Lessig[^] is law prof at Stanford that has some connection with FSF as well as tending towards an extremely liberal (if that's the right word) interpretation of copyright. As far as I am concerned they are both goober heads.

                ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog

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                Zoltan Balazs
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                Jim Crafton wrote:

                goober heads

                For non-native english speakers: what's a goober head? It's an insult?

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                  Jim Crafton wrote:

                  goober heads

                  For non-native english speakers: what's a goober head? It's an insult?

                  Network integrated solutions A practical use of the MVC pattern

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                  Jim Crafton
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                  Yes, it's a more gentle way of saying someone is an idiot.

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                    Richard Stallman[^] (sometimes referred to as RMS) is the author of the GPL, written, as far as I can understand, mainly because he was pissed off at some proprietary vendors he was working with at the time. He founded the FSF (I think that's correct) and Lessig[^] is law prof at Stanford that has some connection with FSF as well as tending towards an extremely liberal (if that's the right word) interpretation of copyright. As far as I am concerned they are both goober heads.

                    ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog

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                    Nemanja Trifunovic
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                    Jim Crafton wrote:

                    the author of the GPL, written, as far as I can understand, mainly because he was pissed off at some proprietary vendors he was working with at the time.

                    Actually, he was mostly pissed of at James Gosling (creator of Java, for those who have never heard of him) - The History of GPL[^]


                    Programming Blog utf8-cpp

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                      Jim Crafton wrote:

                      goober heads

                      For non-native english speakers: what's a goober head? It's an insult?

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                      Tim Carmichael
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                      A goober is another name for a peanut... so, a goober head is someone who has something other than brains in his head. Personally, I prefer dough head, but, either works. Tim

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                        John Cardinal wrote:

                        the Free Software Foundation or Richard Stallman or Lawrence Lessig

                        Newbie time! Why? I've heard fo the FSF but don't know anything about it, and who are those two guys and why boycott them? Marc

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                        Nemanja Trifunovic
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                        Marc Clifton wrote:

                        who are those two guys and why boycott them?

                        Never heard of Lessig, but RMS should be boycotted mostly because he is the original creator of emacs, which is an evil piece of software. Everybody should be using vim instead.


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                          Jim Crafton wrote:

                          the author of the GPL, written, as far as I can understand, mainly because he was pissed off at some proprietary vendors he was working with at the time.

                          Actually, he was mostly pissed of at James Gosling (creator of Java, for those who have never heard of him) - The History of GPL[^]


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                          Jim Crafton
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                          Ahh, the mind grows fuzzy with age :) I knew he was pissed at someone... :)

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                            Marc Clifton wrote:

                            who are those two guys and why boycott them?

                            Never heard of Lessig, but RMS should be boycotted mostly because he is the original creator of emacs, which is an evil piece of software. Everybody should be using vim instead.


                            Programming Blog utf8-cpp

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                            little girls! Edlin is your friend! :)

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                              John Cardinal wrote:

                              the Free Software Foundation or Richard Stallman or Lawrence Lessig

                              Newbie time! Why? I've heard fo the FSF but don't know anything about it, and who are those two guys and why boycott them? Marc

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                              At least RMS seems to be the software developer equivalent of fundamentalist zealots.


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                                Richard Stallman[^] (sometimes referred to as RMS) is the author of the GPL, written, as far as I can understand, mainly because he was pissed off at some proprietary vendors he was working with at the time. He founded the FSF (I think that's correct) and Lessig[^] is law prof at Stanford that has some connection with FSF as well as tending towards an extremely liberal (if that's the right word) interpretation of copyright. As far as I am concerned they are both goober heads.

                                ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog

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                                Chris Maunder
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                                Jim Crafton wrote:

                                As far as I am concerned they are both goober heads.

                                Whoa, whoa... There's no need to get all technical on us.

                                cheers, Chris Maunder

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                                  Jim Crafton wrote:

                                  the author of the GPL, written, as far as I can understand, mainly because he was pissed off at some proprietary vendors he was working with at the time.

                                  Actually, he was mostly pissed of at James Gosling (creator of Java, for those who have never heard of him) - The History of GPL[^]


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                                  Judah Gabriel Himango
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                                  Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:

                                  he was mostly pissed of at James Gosling (creator of Java

                                  Ironic that Java is now (or is undergoing) GPL'ing.

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                                    Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:

                                    he was mostly pissed of at James Gosling (creator of Java

                                    Ironic that Java is now (or is undergoing) GPL'ing.

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                                    For that would be an equiminical matter...*cough*

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                                      I don't know what the angle is on that, but any site / publication that mentions the Free Software Foundation or Richard Stallman or Lawrence Lessig in even a slightly positive manner is something working programmers should boycott and avoid like the plague.


                                      "I don't want more choice. I just want better things!" - Edina Monsoon

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                                      si618
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                                      Why? The eco-system around .NET and Windows is large and growing, supported by one major company, and lots of smaller companies. Lots of programmers making a living using proprietary software. The eco-system around Java and Linux is large and growing, supported by many major organisations, and lots of smaller organisations. Lots of programmers making a living using free and/or open source software. I currently make my living writing .NET code on Windows, but that doesn't mean I keep my head in the sand and ignore a growing section of the IT market. I certainly don't boycott sites which express an alternative to the MS view of the world. It's not like MS has a good track record in anything other than making money by exploiting their O/S monopoly.

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                                        Richard Stallman[^] (sometimes referred to as RMS) is the author of the GPL, written, as far as I can understand, mainly because he was pissed off at some proprietary vendors he was working with at the time. He founded the FSF (I think that's correct) and Lessig[^] is law prof at Stanford that has some connection with FSF as well as tending towards an extremely liberal (if that's the right word) interpretation of copyright. As far as I am concerned they are both goober heads.

                                        ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog

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                                        Have you ever written a C compiler? Have you ever written software that has as many users as emacs, gcc and the rest of the gnu collection? It seems a bit weird to call someone with lots of technical achievements a "goober head", especially when you're probably no match to them as a developer. As for the free software movement, RMS is a bit of an extremist but that's a good thing, because it allows us to be "normal". :)

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                                        • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                                          Marc Clifton wrote:

                                          who are those two guys and why boycott them?

                                          Never heard of Lessig, but RMS should be boycotted mostly because he is the original creator of emacs, which is an evil piece of software. Everybody should be using vim instead.


                                          Programming Blog utf8-cpp

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                                          Lars Lundstedt
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                                          Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:

                                          but RMS should be boycotted mostly because he is the original creator of emacs, which is an evil piece of software. Everybody should be using vim instead.

                                          I sense good old flame war between the users of "very incomprehensible mess" and "Eight megabytes and constantly swapping" coming on :) (I swear by Emacs!)

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