Which Web environment?
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Thanks. What is the difference between AJAX and ASP.NET?
"Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far the Universe is winning." -- Rich Cook
ASP.NET is a server side environment - all the scripts run on the server, and look to the web browser like regular static HTML AJAX stands for Asynchronous Javascript and XML - this has Javascript that runs on the client browser that requests server side scripts for new information (So the Javascript refreshes and rebuilds the page contents, rather than requesting a whole new page from the server)
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The javascript one (as this is closer to my current knowlegde base). As mentioned in the original post, but each step has to be on a different page as each one has different graphics associated with it, mixing the graphics would cause a less nice display.
"Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far the Universe is winning." -- Rich Cook
If you're good with javascript, I'd recommend you have a play with the mootools framework: http://www.mootools.net/[^] Here's an example combining server side PHP with an ajax front end for dealing with forms: http://demos.mootools.net/Ajax.Form[^]
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The javascript one (as this is closer to my current knowlegde base). As mentioned in the original post, but each step has to be on a different page as each one has different graphics associated with it, mixing the graphics would cause a less nice display.
"Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far the Universe is winning." -- Rich Cook
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If you're good with javascript, I'd recommend you have a play with the mootools framework: http://www.mootools.net/[^] Here's an example combining server side PHP with an ajax front end for dealing with forms: http://demos.mootools.net/Ajax.Form[^]
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You are looking for a server side system then (like PHP, ASP.net) or a hell of a complicated Ajax system,.
Brad Australian - Christian Graus on "Best books for VBscript" A big thick one, so you can whack yourself on the head with it.
For the sounds of it the server side ASP.NET is the most flexable.
"Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far the Universe is winning." -- Rich Cook
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For the sounds of it the server side ASP.NET is the most flexable.
"Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far the Universe is winning." -- Rich Cook
Hmm. No. Flexibility is not something you can tag ASP.net with. For a simple system like this either system will do. PHP does have a performance advantage over ASP.net, but you won't notice this on such a low level project.
Brad Australian - Christian Graus on "Best books for VBscript" A big thick one, so you can whack yourself on the head with it.
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You are looking for a server side system then (like PHP, ASP.net) or a hell of a complicated Ajax system,.
Brad Australian - Christian Graus on "Best books for VBscript" A big thick one, so you can whack yourself on the head with it.
I've actually found using mootools that Ajaxy stuff becomes incredibly easy. - Look at the example I posted - you basically just add an event to the form that intercepts the regular submit, and sends the submit via ajax instead, piping the output from the server side php into the div of your choice on the existing page. To chain a set of pages, all you'd need to do is have each form submit the load of the next form, and refresh the main div on the page.
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Christian Graus wrote:
I have had pretty much 100% success in moving people from asp to ASP.NET
Take my current client, they have had this host for so long (they don't even have classic ASP support, just the likes of PHP) he wont change, even though I found him a good host for less than he's paying now (hell his current host doesn't even offer him POP3 mail account with his domain so he has a single @aol.com address for his business email), this new host runs Windows servers, .Net 2.0, SQL 2000/2005 and with it I could create all the "cool stuff" (as he calls it) he wants in his online presence, but I still cannot get him to switch. Hell I even said I would do all the DNS transfers, account setup and managing of the account so he didn't have to do anything. I went through the whole schpeel(sp) that I could setup all his business POP3 accounts, uch as sales@ramengine.com, services@ramengine.com, etc., I even let him know how unprofessional it was to have an @aol.com address for his business, especially considering he has his own domain. I guess a lot of his hesitance comes from the experience he went through when he first got his website , it's truly the ugliest website I've ever seen in my life, have a look here[^] and you'll see what I mean (View it in FireFox and you'll get a real idea of this "professional" website). The person who initially created it told them it was "state of the art" and charged them out the a** for it. I've made some "mock-ups" of the stuff I can offer him with his online presence on my website as a last ditch effort to convince him to change hosts and let me bring his company into the current web era. As of now, with his current host I am pretty much forced to create him a static HTML with some JavaScript and CSS styling. I've done business with this company for sometime now and really want to offer them a professional online presence, but with the experience of his last website fiasco it's not going to be easy. Christian, got any pointers for me?
"Let's face it, the average computer user has the brain of a Spider Monkey." Bill Gates
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Hmm. No. Flexibility is not something you can tag ASP.net with. For a simple system like this either system will do. PHP does have a performance advantage over ASP.net, but you won't notice this on such a low level project.
Brad Australian - Christian Graus on "Best books for VBscript" A big thick one, so you can whack yourself on the head with it.
Thanks, did not know that. I have been looking at the mootools site and they seem to have some nice code for this sort of stuff, so I might not need much server side stuff in the mix.
"Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far the Universe is winning." -- Rich Cook
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I've actually found using mootools that Ajaxy stuff becomes incredibly easy. - Look at the example I posted - you basically just add an event to the form that intercepts the regular submit, and sends the submit via ajax instead, piping the output from the server side php into the div of your choice on the existing page. To chain a set of pages, all you'd need to do is have each form submit the load of the next form, and refresh the main div on the page.
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That sounds quite nice (the AJAX demos look quite nifty). I assume that the server could run ASP.NET or PHP?
"Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far the Universe is winning." -- Rich Cook
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Thanks, did not know that. I have been looking at the mootools site and they seem to have some nice code for this sort of stuff, so I might not need much server side stuff in the mix.
"Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far the Universe is winning." -- Rich Cook
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I've actually found using mootools that Ajaxy stuff becomes incredibly easy. - Look at the example I posted - you basically just add an event to the form that intercepts the regular submit, and sends the submit via ajax instead, piping the output from the server side php into the div of your choice on the existing page. To chain a set of pages, all you'd need to do is have each form submit the load of the next form, and refresh the main div on the page.
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That sounds quite nice (the AJAX demos look quite nifty). I assume that the server could run ASP.NET or PHP?
"Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far the Universe is winning." -- Rich Cook
Yeah, the framework doesn't care what you use for your backend (I've successfully used it to modify old perl-based scripts without problems) As long as it can parse arguments from a http POST or GET, and display html back, it'll work. You can even just make it load static pages
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Christian Graus wrote:
I have had pretty much 100% success in moving people from asp to ASP.NET
Take my current client, they have had this host for so long (they don't even have classic ASP support, just the likes of PHP) he wont change, even though I found him a good host for less than he's paying now (hell his current host doesn't even offer him POP3 mail account with his domain so he has a single @aol.com address for his business email), this new host runs Windows servers, .Net 2.0, SQL 2000/2005 and with it I could create all the "cool stuff" (as he calls it) he wants in his online presence, but I still cannot get him to switch. Hell I even said I would do all the DNS transfers, account setup and managing of the account so he didn't have to do anything. I went through the whole schpeel(sp) that I could setup all his business POP3 accounts, uch as sales@ramengine.com, services@ramengine.com, etc., I even let him know how unprofessional it was to have an @aol.com address for his business, especially considering he has his own domain. I guess a lot of his hesitance comes from the experience he went through when he first got his website , it's truly the ugliest website I've ever seen in my life, have a look here[^] and you'll see what I mean (View it in FireFox and you'll get a real idea of this "professional" website). The person who initially created it told them it was "state of the art" and charged them out the a** for it. I've made some "mock-ups" of the stuff I can offer him with his online presence on my website as a last ditch effort to convince him to change hosts and let me bring his company into the current web era. As of now, with his current host I am pretty much forced to create him a static HTML with some JavaScript and CSS styling. I've done business with this company for sometime now and really want to offer them a professional online presence, but with the experience of his last website fiasco it's not going to be easy. Christian, got any pointers for me?
"Let's face it, the average computer user has the brain of a Spider Monkey." Bill Gates
Psycho-*Coder*-Extreme wrote:
I guess a lot of his hesitance comes from the experience he went through when he first got his website , it's truly the ugliest website I've ever seen in my life, have a look here[^] and you'll see what I mean (View it in FireFox and you'll get a real idea of this "professional" website)
Damn, it's ugly!!
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The best way to go about this would probably be to use JavaScript and an HTML form, where the script would dynamically show or hide form radio buttons and their corresponding questions, depending on user's selection, using the CSS attribute display, and setting it to none and later to block, which you can tie to a boolean in the script, which saves you from redrawing the screen after each selection. The script would also keep score and after the user has completed each step, display the result. Roswell
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THe answer is always ASP.NET.
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Christian Graus wrote:
VB.NET to C#
How does this make sense from a business prespective?
Mike Lasseter