Browser Preference?
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Firefox is related to Netscape and now Google, so, umm, well, ummm, what should I download instead? If that's the church and that's the state I'm effed.
There is one browser out there probably not related to anyone and suitable for everyone. Lynx[^] You will love it.
Co-Author ASP.NET AJAX in Action
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Chris Losinger wrote:
there will be, if the next release isn't more stable than the current one.
I ran into horrendous stability problems about a week ago. It had been gradually getting worse and worse. Bad, non-killable hangs for example. many have said that extensions are the chief culprit. Rather unfortunate as it's extensions that are the "killer application." Anyway, I discovered that two major problems are the download manager (I deleted all the downloads from it an now keep it to a manageable size) and Firebug (I've disabled it). Since then it's been much more stable. Still uses a lot of memory - up to 200k but does seem to periodically give it back, as it's claimed to do. But I'd never observed that before.
Kevin
i keep firebug disabled. i run Greasemonkey (because i have a few scripts to strip comments from certain blog commenters) and nothing else. just loading David Byrne's Journal kills this latest version of FF for me, every single time. and i get random crashes two or three times a day. this never happened with the last version.
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There is one browser out there probably not related to anyone and suitable for everyone. Lynx[^] You will love it.
Co-Author ASP.NET AJAX in Action
Lynx is for babies. i get the pages with ::URLDownloadToFile then render them myself. on paper. by hand. with colored pencils and a ruler.
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There is one browser out there probably not related to anyone and suitable for everyone. Lynx[^] You will love it.
Co-Author ASP.NET AJAX in Action
Oh, wow. I used Lynx as my primary browser for... hmm, at least three years in the early '90s. It was amazing how slow Netscape seemed by comparison!
every night, i kneel at the foot of my bed and thank the Great Overseeing Politicians for protecting my freedoms by reducing their number, as if they were deer in a state park. -- Chris Losinger, Online Poker Players?
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Lynx is for babies. i get the pages with ::URLDownloadToFile then render them myself. on paper. by hand. with colored pencils and a ruler.
Chris Losinger wrote:
with colored pencils
bah! you have it easy.... I use the arm-tap for drawing blood as an inkwell and write it in blood, and I free-hand the straight lines! ;P
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15 odd % of users now sucked into FireFox are all techies since not one normal person I know could be bothered to
I'm pretty sure the percentage is higher than 15. In fact, I'd say it's about double that. Are you trying to imply that "techies" are not "normal" :)
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15% is a slight overestimate according to these stats[^]. Yes, only one data point. W3Schools[^] reports nearly 35%, but these stats are only from their own site which is of course used by web developers.
Stability. What an interesting concept. -- Chris Maunder
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Lynx is for babies. i get the pages with ::URLDownloadToFile then render them myself. on paper. by hand. with colored pencils and a ruler.
Chris Losinger wrote:
i get the pages with ::URLDownloadToFile then render them myself. on paper. by hand. with colored pencils and a ruler.
Newb. I telnet to port 80. And no ruler.
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Suit yourself. I prefer seafood. It was a question. You're no instead. Manners Manners little ones. Manners.
Uhm... I'm sorry, I was just joking, trying to imply that Firefox is the best IMO. But I apologize if you felt offended. Didn't mean to.
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Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
There is no "instead".
there will be, if the next release isn't more stable than the current one.
:omg: Well, I've never had problems with FF. I only use it for browsing CP, mail, news and sport sites though. I've never done web development with FF. Then I hope the next release to be more stable. I don't like the idea of switching to Opera or... or... or... [trembling]IE7[/trembling]
A polar bear is a bear whose coordinates has been changed in terms of sine and cosine. Quanehsti Pah Nation States
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15% is a slight overestimate according to these stats[^]. Yes, only one data point. W3Schools[^] reports nearly 35%, but these stats are only from their own site which is of course used by web developers.
Stability. What an interesting concept. -- Chris Maunder
I assume the Internet Explorer number includes Aol.
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Chris Losinger wrote:
i get the pages with ::URLDownloadToFile then render them myself. on paper. by hand. with colored pencils and a ruler.
Newb. I telnet to port 80. And no ruler.
Faith is a fine invention For gentlemen who see; But microscopes are prudent In an emergency! -Emily Dickinson
when i started, i used to use an abacus, a voltmeter and an Etch-a-Sketch. but that only worked over dialup. i can't keep up with the signals on broadband.
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when i started, i used to use an abacus, a voltmeter and an Etch-a-Sketch. but that only worked over dialup. i can't keep up with the signals on broadband.
Ain't that the truth! I imagine all the Video On Demand "services" that you've signed up for make that a bit difficult to do :)
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when i started, i used to use an abacus, a voltmeter and an Etch-a-Sketch. but that only worked over dialup. i can't keep up with the signals on broadband.
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John Cardinal wrote:
There's a growing anti-firefox sentiment out there
I see one guy with a chip on his shoulder... ;P
every night, i kneel at the foot of my bed and thank the Great Overseeing Politicians for protecting my freedoms by reducing their number, as if they were deer in a state park. -- Chris Losinger, Online Poker Players?
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:omg: Well, I've never had problems with FF. I only use it for browsing CP, mail, news and sport sites though. I've never done web development with FF. Then I hope the next release to be more stable. I don't like the idea of switching to Opera or... or... or... [trembling]IE7[/trembling]
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Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
I don't like the idea of switching to Opera
Why on earth not? It's easily the best browser out there from many different points of view. The only reason I don't use it as my main browser is CodeProject is nearly completely incompatible with it for mysterious reasons.
"I don't want more choice. I just want better things!" - Edina Monsoon
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Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
I don't like the idea of switching to Opera
Why on earth not? It's easily the best browser out there from many different points of view. The only reason I don't use it as my main browser is CodeProject is nearly completely incompatible with it for mysterious reasons.
"I don't want more choice. I just want better things!" - Edina Monsoon
John Cardinal wrote:
CodeProject is nearly completely incompatible with it
Well, that should be enough reason for anyone... :) Jokes aside... I tried Opera some time ago (like 2 years ago, I believe). Didn't like it. Besides it had lots of ads. After Opera I tried Firefox and liked it. It has this cool features that at the time neither IE nor Opera had, such as the tabs window. But that was a while ago, I know. Maybe Opera is better now (from my point of view). But I don't really feel like changing. I'm really used to FF and have no reason at all to switch. Well, I tried to when IE7 was released (I even tried the betas X|), but no thanks. Perhaps, if one day my dogmatic point of view about the topic becomes a little more flexible, I'll try Opera again.
A polar bear is a bear whose coordinates has been changed in terms of sine and cosine. Quanehsti Pah Nation States
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So sez wii we just got one of those. pretty dang cool little game console ! Not sure why I need to spend 5 bucks for a web browser, but i did. (And Galaga 90 !) It hooks to your wireless network and updates it's os just like windows :) I like that little white box. Especially since I can download those old nintendo 64 and snes games. My son and I split the cost - $120 a piece. I like it. ...Steve http://shazware.com
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when i started, i used to use an abacus, a voltmeter and an Etch-a-Sketch. but that only worked over dialup. i can't keep up with the signals on broadband.
Chris Losinger wrote:
a voltmeter
wow, you had one of those? I dialed the modem and verbally queued the remote using my own voice and manually interpreted the feedback I heard... ;P yes, I speak bitstream.... -- modified at 18:17 Monday 20th August, 2007
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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You don't get the CodeProject newsletter? http://whyfirefoxisblocked.com/[^] http://www.google.com/search?q=link%3A+whyfirefoxisblocked.com&rls=com.microsoft:*&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=1[^] It's perfectly understandable really. If I were Chris I'd be blocking it here as well considering how many firefox fanatics we seem to have who are no doubt circumventing the advertising that is the lifeblood of this site.
"I don't want more choice. I just want better things!" - Edina Monsoon
John Cardinal wrote:
You don't get the CodeProject newsletter? http://whyfirefoxisblocked.com/\[^\]
Already commented on that[^]. As i said, the guy has a chip on his shoulder when it comes to FF. The ad-blocking rational is pure hypocrisy - there are no shortage of blocking techniques and programs for other browsers; heck, i recall seeing ad-blocking hosts files sent around - as well as software to automatically install and update it for those who didn't care to mess with it manually - long before the rise of Firefox.
John Cardinal wrote:
If I were Chris I'd be blocking it here as well considering how many firefox fanatics we seem to have who are no doubt circumventing the advertising that is the lifeblood of this site.
That's his prerogative, as are allowing or disallowing the use of advertising techniques such as pop-ups, click-throughs, and IntelliTxt. Some sites find these heavy-handed methods useful, and perhaps CP will as well one day... personally, i hope not.
every night, i kneel at the foot of my bed and thank the Great Overseeing Politicians for protecting my freedoms by reducing their number, as if they were deer in a state park. -- Chris Losinger, Online Poker Players?
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Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
I don't like the idea of switching to Opera
Why on earth not? It's easily the best browser out there from many different points of view. The only reason I don't use it as my main browser is CodeProject is nearly completely incompatible with it for mysterious reasons.
"I don't want more choice. I just want better things!" - Edina Monsoon
John Cardinal wrote:
CodeProject is nearly completely incompatible with it
Hmm... I last tried it a few months ago, but it was working fine then (Opera 9) - i mean, you could view messages and post and such.
every night, i kneel at the foot of my bed and thank the Great Overseeing Politicians for protecting my freedoms by reducing their number, as if they were deer in a state park. -- Chris Losinger, Online Poker Players?