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  • T toxcct

    CPallini wrote:

    typedef int BOOL

    not really maybe :cool:

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    Rajesh R Subramanian
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    toxcct wrote:

    not really

    You've gotta be kidding me. CPallini is correct.

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    • T toxcct

      CPallini wrote:

      typedef int BOOL

      not really maybe :cool:

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      Maybe both my local help and my windef.h file are wrong?

      If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
      This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke

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        toxcct wrote:

        BOOL is different. it is an enum type inherited from the old C days. it's definition is like this : enum BOOL { FALSE = 0, TRUE };

        Where did you get this information from? Under Windows, BOOL is defined as an integer in Windef.h

        Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP

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        humm, it was in the C days... but anyway, an enum is an int

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        • T toxcct

          if you're coding in C, bool just don't exist (I prefer mention it, even it's obvious). in C++, bool is a native type. it weights 1 byte and takes the values 0_b_0000000**1** (true) or 0_b_0000000**0** (false). you can assign an integer to a bool. if it is different from 0, it equals the value "true", and will be automatically converted into 0_b_0000000**1** anyway. BOOL is different. it is an enum type inherited from the old C days. it's definition is like this :

          enum BOOL {
          FALSE = 0,
          TRUE
          };

          An enum is actually an int, which mean it weights 4 bytes (on a 32 bits system). apparently, Microsoft implements it in a different manner, so you have to be much more careful with it. for instance :

          //if defined like this :
          typedef int BOOL;

          //this can be a mistake :
          BOOL b = 4;
          if (b == true) {
          //never enters here
          // because 4 != 1
          }

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          modified on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 9:50 AM

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          toxcct wrote:

          0x00000001 (true) or 0x00000000 (false).

          Uhmmmmmmmmmmm. Never seen a byte having so much hex digits...:-D

          If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
          This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke

          In testa che avete, signor di Ceprano?

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          • T toxcct

            humm, it was in the C days... but anyway, an enum is an int

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            Rajesh R Subramanian
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            I was just asking where was BOOL defined as an enum. Since the C days, BOOL is an int and even the latest Windows SDK, it is so, to have C compatibility. I have never seen BOOL being defined as an enum in the Windows world.

            Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP

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            • R Rajesh R Subramanian

              I was just asking where was BOOL defined as an enum. Since the C days, BOOL is an int and even the latest Windows SDK, it is so, to have C compatibility. I have never seen BOOL being defined as an enum in the Windows world.

              Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP

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              Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

              in the Windows world.

              man, we are not alone ! ;P

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              • CPalliniC CPallini

                toxcct wrote:

                0x00000001 (true) or 0x00000000 (false).

                Uhmmmmmmmmmmm. Never seen a byte having so much hex digits...:-D

                If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke

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                toxcct
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                what ????? doesn't a Byte having 8 bits ?

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                • CPalliniC CPallini

                  toxcct wrote:

                  0x00000001 (true) or 0x00000000 (false).

                  Uhmmmmmmmmmmm. Never seen a byte having so much hex digits...:-D

                  If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                  This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke

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                  Jhony george
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                  hai all, about 'bool' i got idea... from all ur replies... but what about BOOL..? i am not clear...

                  Born to win...!

                  modified on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 11:57 PM

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                  • T toxcct

                    what ????? doesn't a Byte having 8 bits ?

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                    CPallini
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                    But it hasn't 8 hexadecimal digits. I.e. I was kidding about your binary numbers prefixed like hexadecimal ones. :)

                    If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                    This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke

                    In testa che avete, signor di Ceprano?

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                    • CPalliniC CPallini

                      But it hasn't 8 hexadecimal digits. I.e. I was kidding about your binary numbers prefixed like hexadecimal ones. :)

                      If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                      This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke

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                      you're right, i fixed it.

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                      • CPalliniC CPallini

                        Maybe both my local help and my windef.h file are wrong?

                        If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                        This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke

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                        Rajesh R Subramanian
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                        May be toxcct is on drugs today for a change. :laugh:

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                        • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                          May be toxcct is on drugs today for a change. :laugh:

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                          Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

                          May be toxcct is on drugs today for a change

                          come on, have you ever worked under linux ? Microsoft IS NOT the standard, even if 85% of the PCs worldwide are windows based... :doh:

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                          • T toxcct

                            what ????? doesn't a Byte having 8 bits ?

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                            Cedric Moonen
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                            #19

                            toxcct wrote:

                            doesn't a Byte having 8 bits

                            Yes, so it is coded 0x00 to 0xFF (hexa representation) or 0b00000000 to 0b11111111 (binary representation).

                            Cédric Moonen Software developer
                            Charting control [v1.4]

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                            • T toxcct

                              Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

                              May be toxcct is on drugs today for a change

                              come on, have you ever worked under linux ? Microsoft IS NOT the standard, even if 85% of the PCs worldwide are windows based... :doh:

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                              toxcct wrote:

                              come on, have you ever worked under linux ?

                              Yes, why?

                              toxcct wrote:

                              Microsoft IS NOT the standard, even if 85% of the PCs worldwide are windows based... [D'Oh!]

                              So, I don't get the point here. I have worked on development projects on fedora, debian and ubuntu. Linux does not have a BOOL datatype as far as I know. I say - BOOL belongs to Windows. Comments?

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                              • T toxcct

                                if you're coding in C, bool just don't exist (I prefer mention it, even it's obvious). in C++, bool is a native type. it weights 1 byte and takes the values 0_b_0000000**1** (true) or 0_b_0000000**0** (false). you can assign an integer to a bool. if it is different from 0, it equals the value "true", and will be automatically converted into 0_b_0000000**1** anyway. BOOL is different. it is an enum type inherited from the old C days. it's definition is like this :

                                enum BOOL {
                                FALSE = 0,
                                TRUE
                                };

                                An enum is actually an int, which mean it weights 4 bytes (on a 32 bits system). apparently, Microsoft implements it in a different manner, so you have to be much more careful with it. for instance :

                                //if defined like this :
                                typedef int BOOL;

                                //this can be a mistake :
                                BOOL b = 4;
                                if (b == true) {
                                //never enters here
                                // because 4 != 1
                                }

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                                modified on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 9:50 AM

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                                Nemanja Trifunovic
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                                toxcct wrote:

                                if you're coding in C, bool just don't exist

                                It did not exist in C89, but exists in C99[^]

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                                • T toxcct

                                  Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

                                  May be toxcct is on drugs today for a change

                                  come on, have you ever worked under linux ? Microsoft IS NOT the standard, even if 85% of the PCs worldwide are windows based... :doh:

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                                  Cedric Moonen
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                                  toxcct wrote:

                                  have you ever worked under linux

                                  What kind of drug is that ? ;P

                                  Cédric Moonen Software developer
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                                  • C Cedric Moonen

                                    toxcct wrote:

                                    doesn't a Byte having 8 bits

                                    Yes, so it is coded 0x00 to 0xFF (hexa representation) or 0b00000000 to 0b11111111 (binary representation).

                                    Cédric Moonen Software developer
                                    Charting control [v1.4]

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                                    toxcct
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                                    yes yes, fixed already ;)

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                                    • C Cedric Moonen

                                      toxcct wrote:

                                      have you ever worked under linux

                                      What kind of drug is that ? ;P

                                      Cédric Moonen Software developer
                                      Charting control [v1.4]

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                                      toxcct
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                                      Cedric Moonen wrote:

                                      What kind of drug is that ?

                                      i'd better give up there ! lol

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                                      • J Jhony george

                                        hai all, about 'bool' i got idea... from all ur replies... but what about BOOL..? i am not clear...

                                        Born to win...!

                                        modified on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 11:57 PM

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                                        BOOL is fully featured integer, for instance, you can do.

                                        // WEIRD BOOL (legal) programming
                                        BOOL b;
                                        b = 1000;
                                        b++;

                                        You can't do the same with a bool variable. [added] Well, I made a sanity check, and actually VC++ compiler gives just a warning on the following code

                                        bool b;
                                        b = 1000; // Warning here (loss of info), at runtime b becomes true.
                                        b++; // at runtime b remains true.

                                        [/added] As stated by someone (Rajesh ? toxcct?) this is a reminiscence of the C language gold ol days (C has not the bool keyword). Using an int to represent Yes/No pair is simply a matter of convention (and convenience). :)

                                        If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                                        This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke

                                        In testa che avete, signor di Ceprano?

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                                          toxcct wrote:

                                          have you ever worked under linux

                                          What kind of drug is that ? ;P

                                          Cédric Moonen Software developer
                                          Charting control [v1.4]

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                                          Rajesh R Subramanian
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                                          I dunno. Azk CPallini. He'z da one who abuzez drug to answer queris realllly fazzt. He haz gud drugz and gud linkz. azk him plz. :laugh:

                                          Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP

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