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What do .NET Open Source developers have against mySQL?

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    Brady Kelly
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    I've just been scuppered on installing either of two promising looking open source bug tracking products, BugTracker.NET and BugNET, because they both only support MSSQL databases. I appreciate the hard work of the, I think in both cases, solo developers, but DB agnosticism is crucial when developing for hosted environments. It should be one of the first features, not the last. Mantis it is then, I guess, even if I have to assimilate PHP into my site. ;P

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      I've just been scuppered on installing either of two promising looking open source bug tracking products, BugTracker.NET and BugNET, because they both only support MSSQL databases. I appreciate the hard work of the, I think in both cases, solo developers, but DB agnosticism is crucial when developing for hosted environments. It should be one of the first features, not the last. Mantis it is then, I guess, even if I have to assimilate PHP into my site. ;P

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      Paul Conrad
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      You could always generate a script to create a MySQL database for the said products. Not sure how nice or time consuming putting together the data layers would be.

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        I've just been scuppered on installing either of two promising looking open source bug tracking products, BugTracker.NET and BugNET, because they both only support MSSQL databases. I appreciate the hard work of the, I think in both cases, solo developers, but DB agnosticism is crucial when developing for hosted environments. It should be one of the first features, not the last. Mantis it is then, I guess, even if I have to assimilate PHP into my site. ;P

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        Stuart Dootson
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        Brady Kelly wrote:

        Mantis it is then, I guess, even if I have to assimilate PHP into my site.

        Thought of trying Trac? If only so you're using Python and can retain some self-respect?

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          You could always generate a script to create a MySQL database for the said products. Not sure how nice or time consuming putting together the data layers would be.

          "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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          Brady Kelly
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          I'd very much like to contribute to these projects in some way like that, but I first need to get at least one bug tracking system running on my mySQL only host.

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            I've just been scuppered on installing either of two promising looking open source bug tracking products, BugTracker.NET and BugNET, because they both only support MSSQL databases. I appreciate the hard work of the, I think in both cases, solo developers, but DB agnosticism is crucial when developing for hosted environments. It should be one of the first features, not the last. Mantis it is then, I guess, even if I have to assimilate PHP into my site. ;P

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            ToddHileHoffer
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            Can you use SQL Server Express Edition for a bug tracking application. How many users will you have?

            I didn't get any requirements for the signature

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              I've just been scuppered on installing either of two promising looking open source bug tracking products, BugTracker.NET and BugNET, because they both only support MSSQL databases. I appreciate the hard work of the, I think in both cases, solo developers, but DB agnosticism is crucial when developing for hosted environments. It should be one of the first features, not the last. Mantis it is then, I guess, even if I have to assimilate PHP into my site. ;P

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              Nemanja Trifunovic
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              Brady Kelly wrote:

              What do .NET Open Source developers have against mySQL?

              Probably the same thing PHP developers have against MSSQL :)

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                Brady Kelly wrote:

                What do .NET Open Source developers have against mySQL?

                Probably the same thing PHP developers have against MSSQL :)

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                Brady Kelly
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                :laugh:

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                  Can you use SQL Server Express Edition for a bug tracking application. How many users will you have?

                  I didn't get any requirements for the signature

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                  Brady Kelly
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                  My current hosting plan only allows me one mySQL database per domain. I can get a full MSSQL database, but would like to get something working before all the admin waiting etc. to upgrade. Hey, maybe I like Mantis and it doesn't cost me any more.

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                    I've just been scuppered on installing either of two promising looking open source bug tracking products, BugTracker.NET and BugNET, because they both only support MSSQL databases. I appreciate the hard work of the, I think in both cases, solo developers, but DB agnosticism is crucial when developing for hosted environments. It should be one of the first features, not the last. Mantis it is then, I guess, even if I have to assimilate PHP into my site. ;P

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                    I don't know about open source developers but commercial ones were treated like shit by the Mysql people for quite some time. We decided on FireBirdSQL (in addition to mssql) for our product primarily because it's far superior to MySQL but we only found out about it because we were treated like lepers by MySQL when we enquired about commercial app licenses and left NO STONE unturned to find an alternative.


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                      I've just been scuppered on installing either of two promising looking open source bug tracking products, BugTracker.NET and BugNET, because they both only support MSSQL databases. I appreciate the hard work of the, I think in both cases, solo developers, but DB agnosticism is crucial when developing for hosted environments. It should be one of the first features, not the last. Mantis it is then, I guess, even if I have to assimilate PHP into my site. ;P

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                      Steve McLenithan
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                      I have no problem with using MySQL when the need arises. The apps I've been working on lately, require more or less xcopy style distribution and speed. So in this case I've been using SQLite in memory.

                      // Steve McLenithan

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                        I've just been scuppered on installing either of two promising looking open source bug tracking products, BugTracker.NET and BugNET, because they both only support MSSQL databases. I appreciate the hard work of the, I think in both cases, solo developers, but DB agnosticism is crucial when developing for hosted environments. It should be one of the first features, not the last. Mantis it is then, I guess, even if I have to assimilate PHP into my site. ;P

                        I've Found My Mojo

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                        Pete OHanlon
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                        Well, we had a bit(!?!) of a problem with one of the MySQL drivers not releasing connections properly. It caused no end of problems, and was well documented on the MySQL website - but nobody there seemed remotely interested in fixing it.

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                          I've just been scuppered on installing either of two promising looking open source bug tracking products, BugTracker.NET and BugNET, because they both only support MSSQL databases. I appreciate the hard work of the, I think in both cases, solo developers, but DB agnosticism is crucial when developing for hosted environments. It should be one of the first features, not the last. Mantis it is then, I guess, even if I have to assimilate PHP into my site. ;P

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                          Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                          The only way to design a system without the database in mind is to ignore the features of the particular platform that make it really shine.

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                            The only way to design a system without the database in mind is to ignore the features of the particular platform that make it really shine.

                            Need software developed? Offering C# development all over the United States, ERL GLOBAL, Inc is the only call you will have to make.
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                            Most of this sig is for Google, not ego.

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                            Pete OHanlon
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                            Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

                            The only way to design a system without the database in mind is to ignore the features of the particular platform that make it really shine.

                            Oh that you had a typo at the end there. It would make it much more entertaining.

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                              Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

                              The only way to design a system without the database in mind is to ignore the features of the particular platform that make it really shine.

                              Oh that you had a typo at the end there. It would make it much more entertaining.

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                              Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                              I don't get it?

                              Need software developed? Offering C# development all over the United States, ERL GLOBAL, Inc is the only call you will have to make.
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                                I've just been scuppered on installing either of two promising looking open source bug tracking products, BugTracker.NET and BugNET, because they both only support MSSQL databases. I appreciate the hard work of the, I think in both cases, solo developers, but DB agnosticism is crucial when developing for hosted environments. It should be one of the first features, not the last. Mantis it is then, I guess, even if I have to assimilate PHP into my site. ;P

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                                PIEBALDconsult
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                                Well... SQL Server is better. :-D

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                                  Well... SQL Server is better. :-D

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                                  Brady Kelly
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                                  I know. :(

                                  A SINGLE-PHOTON TURNSTILE, a device in which photons are emitted one at a time under controlled circumstances, has been created by a team of scientists from Stanford (US), Hamamatsu Photonics (Japan), and NTT (Japan). Essentially the researchers use the quantization of electrical conductance to produce a quantization of photon emission. They put together a quantum well (the frontier between two thin semiconductor layers) containing a single electron (other electrons are dissuaded from entering because of a "Coulomb blockade" effect) with a quantum well containing a lone (comparably Coulomb blockaded) hole, and then cycle the voltage across the whole stack of layers in such a way that the lone electron and lone hole meet, mate, and make a lone photon. The resulting device, which operates at mK temperatures, is typically a tiny post some 700 nm tall and with a diameter of 200-1000 nm. (J. Kim et al., Nature, 11 February 1999.)

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                                    The only way to design a system without the database in mind is to ignore the features of the particular platform that make it really shine.

                                    Need software developed? Offering C# development all over the United States, ERL GLOBAL, Inc is the only call you will have to make.
                                    Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest Hemingway
                                    Most of this sig is for Google, not ego.

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                                    Brady Kelly
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                                    For certain applications that don't require much shine, generalisation wins. With small business oriented, low database usage pretty much makes what shines moot; you don't see the shine until you do a real database centric application.

                                    A SINGLE-PHOTON TURNSTILE, a device in which photons are emitted one at a time under controlled circumstances, has been created by a team of scientists from Stanford (US), Hamamatsu Photonics (Japan), and NTT (Japan). Essentially the researchers use the quantization of electrical conductance to produce a quantization of photon emission. They put together a quantum well (the frontier between two thin semiconductor layers) containing a single electron (other electrons are dissuaded from entering because of a "Coulomb blockade" effect) with a quantum well containing a lone (comparably Coulomb blockaded) hole, and then cycle the voltage across the whole stack of layers in such a way that the lone electron and lone hole meet, mate, and make a lone photon. The resulting device, which operates at mK temperatures, is typically a tiny post some 700 nm tall and with a diameter of 200-1000 nm. (J. Kim et al., Nature, 11 February 1999.)

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                                      For certain applications that don't require much shine, generalisation wins. With small business oriented, low database usage pretty much makes what shines moot; you don't see the shine until you do a real database centric application.

                                      A SINGLE-PHOTON TURNSTILE, a device in which photons are emitted one at a time under controlled circumstances, has been created by a team of scientists from Stanford (US), Hamamatsu Photonics (Japan), and NTT (Japan). Essentially the researchers use the quantization of electrical conductance to produce a quantization of photon emission. They put together a quantum well (the frontier between two thin semiconductor layers) containing a single electron (other electrons are dissuaded from entering because of a "Coulomb blockade" effect) with a quantum well containing a lone (comparably Coulomb blockaded) hole, and then cycle the voltage across the whole stack of layers in such a way that the lone electron and lone hole meet, mate, and make a lone photon. The resulting device, which operates at mK temperatures, is typically a tiny post some 700 nm tall and with a diameter of 200-1000 nm. (J. Kim et al., Nature, 11 February 1999.)

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                                      Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                                      My bias is obvious as my primary business is large scale database applications so it hard for me to give the other a fair shake.

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                                        Brady Kelly wrote:

                                        Mantis it is then, I guess, even if I have to assimilate PHP into my site.

                                        Thought of trying Trac? If only so you're using Python and can retain some self-respect?

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                                        l a u r e n
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                                        that would be a dig at php i'm assuming?

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                                        • B Brady Kelly

                                          I've just been scuppered on installing either of two promising looking open source bug tracking products, BugTracker.NET and BugNET, because they both only support MSSQL databases. I appreciate the hard work of the, I think in both cases, solo developers, but DB agnosticism is crucial when developing for hosted environments. It should be one of the first features, not the last. Mantis it is then, I guess, even if I have to assimilate PHP into my site. ;P

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                                          Rocky Moore
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                                          The very first thing is probably the licensing. They model has been confusing to say the least. Then there is the new owner....

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