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  • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

    Does Code written in some languages appear more "beautiful" than other languages? Granted, there is an element of developer there too. But ignoring the developer, do code in some languages prone to appear more "ugly" than in some other languages. For example, to me code written in Java/C#/Python/JavaScript appear aesthetically more pleasing than that in Objective C or Scheme (even though I love Scheme) or Perl. What languages do you find "beautiful" ? or you don't think that there is an aesthetic aspect of a languages?

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    Michael Bergman
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    My vote for the prettiest language is PCL6. My vote for the ugliest language is PCL6.

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      forth is prettiest (but not so useful in the long run) c++ is the next prettiest then c then 68000 asm the rest are are an absolute dog's breakfast... X|

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      Gary R Wheeler
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      Steve Hazel wrote:

      forth is prettiest (but not so useful in the long run

      You didn't take your meds today, did you? FORTH; blech.

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      • P Paul Conrad

        Christian Graus wrote:

        Any BASIC derived language is ugly as sin. Objective C is ugly

        I'd hate to see what kind of programming language you could get if you hooked those two up.

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        __asm{...}

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          __asm{...}

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          Paul Conrad
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          bulg wrote:

          __asm{...}

          Not bad, at least compared to AT&T style assembly with gcc :rolleyes:

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          • R Ray Cassick

            I take heat for it but I love VB.net. C++ may look pretty form a distance but as she gets closer you start to see that her blouse is off by one button, one high heel is shorter than the other and her eyes are crossed in a wild and crazy look that makes you think she perpetually drinks way too much. Oh yeah, and her hair extensions are starting to come loose...


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            Shog9 0
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            Ray Cassick wrote:

            C++ may look pretty form a distance

            But rarely does. ...unless it happens to be standing next to VB... :rolleyes:

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            You're right. These facts that you've laid out totally contradict the wild ramblings that I pulled off the back of cornflakes packets.

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            • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

              Does Code written in some languages appear more "beautiful" than other languages? Granted, there is an element of developer there too. But ignoring the developer, do code in some languages prone to appear more "ugly" than in some other languages. For example, to me code written in Java/C#/Python/JavaScript appear aesthetically more pleasing than that in Objective C or Scheme (even though I love Scheme) or Perl. What languages do you find "beautiful" ? or you don't think that there is an aesthetic aspect of a languages?

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              Shog9 0
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              I enjoy the look of C and JavaScript. Both lend themselves well to small, tightly-written functions. Of course, any language can be made ugly.

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              You're right. These facts that you've laid out totally contradict the wild ramblings that I pulled off the back of cornflakes packets.

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              • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                Does Code written in some languages appear more "beautiful" than other languages? Granted, there is an element of developer there too. But ignoring the developer, do code in some languages prone to appear more "ugly" than in some other languages. For example, to me code written in Java/C#/Python/JavaScript appear aesthetically more pleasing than that in Objective C or Scheme (even though I love Scheme) or Perl. What languages do you find "beautiful" ? or you don't think that there is an aesthetic aspect of a languages?

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                Vikram A Punathambekar
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                I find the C-derived languages pleasing to look at. I am not a VB basher, but the code looks ugly. I am not familiar enough with other languages to comment on them.

                Cheers, Vıkram.


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                • G Gary R Wheeler

                  Steve Hazel wrote:

                  forth is prettiest (but not so useful in the long run

                  You didn't take your meds today, did you? FORTH; blech.

                  Software Zen: delete this;
                  Fold With Us![^]

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                  stephen hazel
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                  forth can be elegant. Like perl, it can also be an absolute dog's breakfast like the rest...

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                  • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                    Does Code written in some languages appear more "beautiful" than other languages? Granted, there is an element of developer there too. But ignoring the developer, do code in some languages prone to appear more "ugly" than in some other languages. For example, to me code written in Java/C#/Python/JavaScript appear aesthetically more pleasing than that in Objective C or Scheme (even though I love Scheme) or Perl. What languages do you find "beautiful" ? or you don't think that there is an aesthetic aspect of a languages?

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                    PIEBALDconsult
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                    Depends on what you're used to. Even W finds his wife attractive. X| Over the weekend I glanced at some C code I wrote about ten years ago -- X| A colleague showed me an SQL function he was working on today -- X| I just glanced at an old Ada book I have sitting around (I never learned it) -- X| COBOL, BASIC -- X| Pascal not so much. But C# I really enjoy now. (Even though no one else would format it the way I do.) :~ I think the dividing line is whether or not the language uses BEGIN/END. The fewer "words" and the more symbols the better.

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                    • S stephen hazel

                      forth can be elegant. Like perl, it can also be an absolute dog's breakfast like the rest...

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                      Gary R Wheeler
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                      ... Beholder, Beauty Eye of

                      Software Zen: delete this;
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                      • G Gary R Wheeler

                        ... Beholder, Beauty Eye of

                        Software Zen: delete this;
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                        stephen hazel
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                        sooooooooooo true. Kinda Yoda like... (Like Grover I talk. SORRY!)

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                        • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                          Does Code written in some languages appear more "beautiful" than other languages? Granted, there is an element of developer there too. But ignoring the developer, do code in some languages prone to appear more "ugly" than in some other languages. For example, to me code written in Java/C#/Python/JavaScript appear aesthetically more pleasing than that in Objective C or Scheme (even though I love Scheme) or Perl. What languages do you find "beautiful" ? or you don't think that there is an aesthetic aspect of a languages?

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                          andrey dmitriev
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                          I found G (LabVIEW) most and really beautiful. Andrey.

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                          • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                            Does Code written in some languages appear more "beautiful" than other languages? Granted, there is an element of developer there too. But ignoring the developer, do code in some languages prone to appear more "ugly" than in some other languages. For example, to me code written in Java/C#/Python/JavaScript appear aesthetically more pleasing than that in Objective C or Scheme (even though I love Scheme) or Perl. What languages do you find "beautiful" ? or you don't think that there is an aesthetic aspect of a languages?

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                            Behzad Sedighzadeh
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                            I think C is still the most beautiful Language, though i do most of my job in C#.Yo can build outside world with C.That's enough to say C is the best.

                            Behzad

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                                • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                                  Does Code written in some languages appear more "beautiful" than other languages? Granted, there is an element of developer there too. But ignoring the developer, do code in some languages prone to appear more "ugly" than in some other languages. For example, to me code written in Java/C#/Python/JavaScript appear aesthetically more pleasing than that in Objective C or Scheme (even though I love Scheme) or Perl. What languages do you find "beautiful" ? or you don't think that there is an aesthetic aspect of a languages?

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                                  RogelioP EX DE HL
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                                  Motorola 6809 Assembly... I love PIC kept at the simple 8 bit level :-\ Then, despite the strong sentiments against: I love Basic Pascal, C & Fortran follow close. -=[ R ]=-

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                                  • S stephen hazel

                                    forth is prettiest (but not so useful in the long run) c++ is the next prettiest then c then 68000 asm the rest are are an absolute dog's breakfast... X|

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                                    BillWoodruff
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                                    imho Forth was (is ?) as much a "religion" as a computer language. i used to be "proselytized" by Forth adherents back in the 1980's; they had a gleam in their eye that signified they had found the great revelation : it was clear to me that spreading its "words" was accompanied by a "holy zeal." by the way i have nada against languages with RPN and an explicit stack; for many years PostScript was my bread and butter. but, for me, PostScript was LISP in drag as a printer controller language. with PostScript (as well as Forth and LISP) it's easy to write unmaintainable code that is idiosyncratic to the nth. degree, needlessly recursive, self-re-writing, etc. : all of which, from another perspective can be a very good way for a programmer to write a continuous employment contract for themself forever and ever. :) best, Bill

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                                    • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                                      Does Code written in some languages appear more "beautiful" than other languages? Granted, there is an element of developer there too. But ignoring the developer, do code in some languages prone to appear more "ugly" than in some other languages. For example, to me code written in Java/C#/Python/JavaScript appear aesthetically more pleasing than that in Objective C or Scheme (even though I love Scheme) or Perl. What languages do you find "beautiful" ? or you don't think that there is an aesthetic aspect of a languages?

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                                      dilton_dalton
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                                      This is going to date me rather severly, but I have always thought that FORTRAN looked better than other languages. To me, C (and similar languages) looks like a dogs breakfast. The next most attractive language, to me at least, is Pascal or its decendents like Ada or Delphi. You can't build perfect systems out of defective parts. But you can keep the testers busy.

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                                      • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                                        Does Code written in some languages appear more "beautiful" than other languages? Granted, there is an element of developer there too. But ignoring the developer, do code in some languages prone to appear more "ugly" than in some other languages. For example, to me code written in Java/C#/Python/JavaScript appear aesthetically more pleasing than that in Objective C or Scheme (even though I love Scheme) or Perl. What languages do you find "beautiful" ? or you don't think that there is an aesthetic aspect of a languages?

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                                        Paul Zaczkowski
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                                        From what I've seen... The Ugly: BrainF**K, Whitespace(hehe), LISP, Haskell, C/C++, PHP, BASIC The Beauty: C#, Java, Javascript, Visual Basic 6.0 (It might not be the most effective language out there, but it can look like pseudo code at times, making easier than hell to read),TI-BASIC, C/C++ I put C/C++ in both, because it really depends on what you're doing. Pieces of it are gorgeous, other pieces not so much. Those are really the only languages I've had experience with, so I won't comment on anything else.

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                                        • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                                          Does Code written in some languages appear more "beautiful" than other languages? Granted, there is an element of developer there too. But ignoring the developer, do code in some languages prone to appear more "ugly" than in some other languages. For example, to me code written in Java/C#/Python/JavaScript appear aesthetically more pleasing than that in Objective C or Scheme (even though I love Scheme) or Perl. What languages do you find "beautiful" ? or you don't think that there is an aesthetic aspect of a languages?

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                                          RUBY IS BEAUTIFUL, IS PERFECT... YOU SHOULD TRY!

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