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  • F frattaro

    So I just finished a portion of a web application I'm writing, and I decided to count how many different languages I've used in this one aspx page. xhtml for the structure css for the display javascript for client side functionality xml for a modified treeview control xpath to navigate the modified treeview control c# for code behind asp.net for master pages and user controls sql for a gridview Things are pretty absurd for web developers. How many languages are you guys responsible for? -frattaro

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    css isn't a "language". In the purest definition, neither is XML (including it's bastard variants). asp.net is not a language. xpath is not a language. I guess that leaves you with C#, javascript, and SQL. What's your point?

    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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      css isn't a "language". In the purest definition, neither is XML (including it's bastard variants). asp.net is not a language. xpath is not a language. I guess that leaves you with C#, javascript, and SQL. What's your point?

      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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      "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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      whatever you want to call them. scripting syntaxes. the point was stated: the number of them is absurd. Give me a break.

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        whatever you want to call them. scripting syntaxes. the point was stated: the number of them is absurd. Give me a break.

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        Jim Crafton
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        The larger point is

        Web + "Application" = absurd.

        So, yes. :)

        ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog Just Say No to Web 2 Point Oh

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        • realJSOPR realJSOP

          css isn't a "language". In the purest definition, neither is XML (including it's bastard variants). asp.net is not a language. xpath is not a language. I guess that leaves you with C#, javascript, and SQL. What's your point?

          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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          "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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          Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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          SQL isn't a language.

          Need custom software developed? I do C# development and consulting all over the United States. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane

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            SQL isn't a language.

            Need custom software developed? I do C# development and consulting all over the United States. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane

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            So who put the L in SQL if it doesn't stand for Language? They should get the L out of there!

            BDF People don't mind being mean; but they never want to be ridiculous. -- Moliere

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              The larger point is

              Web + "Application" = absurd.

              So, yes. :)

              ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog Just Say No to Web 2 Point Oh

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              For example, maybe you've heard of google apps? maybe not?

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                So who put the L in SQL if it doesn't stand for Language? They should get the L out of there!

                BDF People don't mind being mean; but they never want to be ridiculous. -- Moliere

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                I was giving John a hard time since he excluded XHTML (XML and its variants) and ASP.NET or declarative programming in .NET as a language.

                Need custom software developed? I do C# development and consulting all over the United States. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane

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                • F frattaro

                  whatever you want to call them. scripting syntaxes. the point was stated: the number of them is absurd. Give me a break.

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                  frattaro wrote:

                  whatever you want to call them. scripting syntaxes.

                  Data formats. Libraries. And if you want me to count all the data formats and libraries i deal with in non-web-development, i've got you beat easily.

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                  • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                    SQL isn't a language.

                    Need custom software developed? I do C# development and consulting all over the United States. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane

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                    It is a non-procedural language by nature.

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                      It is a non-procedural language by nature.

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                      ok...so that was a joke, then.

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                      • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                        SQL isn't a language.

                        Need custom software developed? I do C# development and consulting all over the United States. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane

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                        Single Step Debugger
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                        Simple Query Language. Though not so simple these days, especially if you consider Transact/PL SQL and UDF functionality in Oracle and SQL Server. For the rest I’m entirely agree with John.

                        The narrow specialist in the broad sense of the word is a complete idiot in the narrow sense of the word. Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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                        • F frattaro

                          For example, maybe you've heard of google apps? maybe not?

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                          Yes, and while it's proof that if you bang on a square peg to get it to fit into a round hole long enough, the peg and hole will eventually deform to the point where you don't need to bang anymore, I still maintain that Web + application = absurd.

                          ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog Just Say No to Web 2 Point Oh

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                            Simple Query Language. Though not so simple these days, especially if you consider Transact/PL SQL and UDF functionality in Oracle and SQL Server. For the rest I’m entirely agree with John.

                            The narrow specialist in the broad sense of the word is a complete idiot in the narrow sense of the word. Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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                            frattaro
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                            Structured Query Language.

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                            • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                              SQL isn't a language.

                              Need custom software developed? I do C# development and consulting all over the United States. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane

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                              PIEBALDconsult
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                              Oh, not that again. :rolleyes: :-D

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                              • F frattaro

                                So I just finished a portion of a web application I'm writing, and I decided to count how many different languages I've used in this one aspx page. xhtml for the structure css for the display javascript for client side functionality xml for a modified treeview control xpath to navigate the modified treeview control c# for code behind asp.net for master pages and user controls sql for a gridview Things are pretty absurd for web developers. How many languages are you guys responsible for? -frattaro

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                                PIEBALDconsult
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                                Boy, I'm glad I'm not responsible for those. I'm only responsible for one, but I might release it to the wild at some point, then it's popularity may even double!

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                                  Structured Query Language.

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                                  Single Step Debugger
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                                  Thanks!

                                  The narrow specialist in the broad sense of the word is a complete idiot in the narrow sense of the word. Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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                                    Yes, and while it's proof that if you bang on a square peg to get it to fit into a round hole long enough, the peg and hole will eventually deform to the point where you don't need to bang anymore, I still maintain that Web + application = absurd.

                                    ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog Just Say No to Web 2 Point Oh

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                                    Jim Crafton wrote:

                                    Yes, and while it's proof that if you bang on a square peg to get it to fit into a round hole long enough, the peg and hole will eventually deform to the point where you don't need to bang anymore, I still maintain that Web + application = absurd.

                                    Yeah, the internet is fad. It will never last. :rolleyes:

                                    I didn't get any requirements for the signature

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                                    • F frattaro

                                      So I just finished a portion of a web application I'm writing, and I decided to count how many different languages I've used in this one aspx page. xhtml for the structure css for the display javascript for client side functionality xml for a modified treeview control xpath to navigate the modified treeview control c# for code behind asp.net for master pages and user controls sql for a gridview Things are pretty absurd for web developers. How many languages are you guys responsible for? -frattaro

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                                      well try 32 real bosses. I code for a unnamed agency where each of the "board" members are also owners. App consists of a desktop client, a web client and a number of services including DoD spec PKI access and connections to legacy com applications .. :doh:

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                                        Jim Crafton wrote:

                                        Yes, and while it's proof that if you bang on a square peg to get it to fit into a round hole long enough, the peg and hole will eventually deform to the point where you don't need to bang anymore, I still maintain that Web + application = absurd.

                                        Yeah, the internet is fad. It will never last. :rolleyes:

                                        I didn't get any requirements for the signature

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                                        We could only be so lucky. Sadly both it and web apps are here for a while.

                                        ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog Just Say No to Web 2 Point Oh

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                                        • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                          css isn't a "language". In the purest definition, neither is XML (including it's bastard variants). asp.net is not a language. xpath is not a language. I guess that leaves you with C#, javascript, and SQL. What's your point?

                                          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                                          -----
                                          "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                          Just for reference: XML = eXtensible Markup Language XHTML = eXtensible Hypertext Markup Language the W3C considers XPath a language, check their website. asp.net is admittedly a framework, but its just like html with tag namespaces, and should be considered an independent language. CSS is a stylesheet language, here is a PhD paper on stylesheet languages from the Opera website: http://people.opera.com/howcome/2006/phd/[^]

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