I have 8 bosses, Bob.

Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

I was giving John a hard time since he excluded XHTML (XML and its variants) and ASP.NET or declarative programming in .NET as a language.

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frattaro wrote:

whatever you want to call them. scripting syntaxes.

Data formats. Libraries. And if you want me to count all the data formats and libraries i deal with in non-web-development, i've got you beat easily.

puromtec1

It is a non-procedural language by nature.

puromtec1

ok...so that was a joke, then.

Single Step Debugger

Simple Query Language. Though not so simple these days, especially if you consider Transact/PL SQL and UDF functionality in Oracle and SQL Server. For the rest I’m entirely agree with John.

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Jim Crafton

Yes, and while it's proof that if you bang on a square peg to get it to fit into a round hole long enough, the peg and hole will eventually deform to the point where you don't need to bang anymore, I still maintain that Web + application = absurd.

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frattaro

Structured Query Language.

PIEBALDconsult

Oh, not that again. :rolleyes: :-D

PIEBALDconsult

Boy, I'm glad I'm not responsible for those. I'm only responsible for one, but I might release it to the wild at some point, then it's popularity may even double!

Single Step Debugger

Thanks!

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ToddHileHoffer

Jim Crafton wrote:

Yes, and while it's proof that if you bang on a square peg to get it to fit into a round hole long enough, the peg and hole will eventually deform to the point where you don't need to bang anymore, I still maintain that Web + application = absurd.

Yeah, the internet is fad. It will never last. :rolleyes:

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fred_

well try 32 real bosses. I code for a unnamed agency where each of the "board" members are also owners. App consists of a desktop client, a web client and a number of services including DoD spec PKI access and connections to legacy com applications .. :doh:

Jim Crafton

We could only be so lucky. Sadly both it and web apps are here for a while.

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frattaro

Just for reference: XML = eXtensible Markup Language XHTML = eXtensible Hypertext Markup Language the W3C considers XPath a language, check their website. asp.net is admittedly a framework, but its just like html with tag namespaces, and should be considered an independent language. CSS is a stylesheet language, here is a PhD paper on stylesheet languages from the Opera website: http://people.opera.com/howcome/2006/phd/[^]

ToddHileHoffer

Fratttaro, I don't think you got a copy of the lastest memo. You see, we're using WCF and LINQ for data access. We are also making Silver Light versions of our web pages. You also need to use CAML to put your data in sharepoint. And you'll need to make a sharepoint web part so that the grid can be put in sharepoint. Also, Reports and data export are necessary, so you'll need to become proficient with SSRS and SSIS. It is also a requirement that every web page has regular expressions for validation. Didn't you get that memo?

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Brady Kelly

Web + "HTML Application" = absurd. Of course your need a UI, but our web application, using extJS, renders UI elements straight into the DOM, cutting most of our HTML code down to a few tags to include the frame work. If I define a form panel 'item' as <pre> { xtype : 'textfield', fieldLabel : 'Client Surname', name : 'surname' } </pre> I see a neat label and textbox, that knows if its been changed, and automatically reads and writes from and to the 'surname' field in it's data store. No HTML until the DOM spits it out on the 'other side'. <div style="display:none;" class="CPhogPost"></div> <div class="ForumSig"></div>

frattaro

haha, nice, i completely forgot about the nightmare that is regex

realJSOP

On 12/21/2012, it will all be moot anyway.

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Jim Crafton

Well what I'm really whining about is trying to write network apps on top of a protocol that was never ever designed for it. What needs to happen is HTTP 2.0, but that's about as likely as cats making love to dogs.

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realJSOP

XML (and all its bastard variants) is a markup specification. It's not a language. ASP.Net is a collection of technologies ("classic" ASP wasn't a language either) that serves as a vehicle for allowing web pages utilize Microsoft proprietary scripting languages. CSS can't be considered a language because it has no control functionality. Declarative programming is akin to vocalized grunts that serve no specific purpose.

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