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  • T ToddHileHoffer

    Jim Crafton wrote:

    Yes, and while it's proof that if you bang on a square peg to get it to fit into a round hole long enough, the peg and hole will eventually deform to the point where you don't need to bang anymore, I still maintain that Web + application = absurd.

    Yeah, the internet is fad. It will never last. :rolleyes:

    I didn't get any requirements for the signature

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    On 12/21/2012, it will all be moot anyway.

    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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    "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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    • B Brady Kelly

      Web + "HTML Application" = absurd. Of course your need a UI, but our web application, using extJS, renders UI elements straight into the DOM, cutting most of our HTML code down to a few tags to include the frame work. If I define a form panel 'item' as <pre> { xtype : 'textfield', fieldLabel : 'Client Surname', name : 'surname' } </pre> I see a neat label and textbox, that knows if its been changed, and automatically reads and writes from and to the 'surname' field in it's data store. No HTML until the DOM spits it out on the 'other side'. <div style="display:none;" class="CPhogPost"></div> <div class="ForumSig"></div>

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      Jim Crafton
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      Well what I'm really whining about is trying to write network apps on top of a protocol that was never ever designed for it. What needs to happen is HTTP 2.0, but that's about as likely as cats making love to dogs.

      ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog Just Say No to Web 2 Point Oh

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      • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

        I was giving John a hard time since he excluded XHTML (XML and its variants) and ASP.NET or declarative programming in .NET as a language.

        Need custom software developed? I do C# development and consulting all over the United States. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane

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        XML (and all its bastard variants) is a markup specification. It's not a language. ASP.Net is a collection of technologies ("classic" ASP wasn't a language either) that serves as a vehicle for allowing web pages utilize Microsoft proprietary scripting languages. CSS can't be considered a language because it has no control functionality. Declarative programming is akin to vocalized grunts that serve no specific purpose.

        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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        "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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        • F frattaro

          So I just finished a portion of a web application I'm writing, and I decided to count how many different languages I've used in this one aspx page. xhtml for the structure css for the display javascript for client side functionality xml for a modified treeview control xpath to navigate the modified treeview control c# for code behind asp.net for master pages and user controls sql for a gridview Things are pretty absurd for web developers. How many languages are you guys responsible for? -frattaro

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          Christian Graus
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          All of those, if they count as languages, XML sure doesn't. Plus C++, and Objective C. And if XML counts, I guess XAML does, too.

          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.

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          • F frattaro

            whatever you want to call them. scripting syntaxes. the point was stated: the number of them is absurd. Give me a break.

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            frattaro wrote:

            Give me a break.

            I've been bugging the site admin to put up further notices at the top of the Lounge that clearly state that nobody gets any slack - ever.

            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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            "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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            • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

              SQL isn't a language.

              Need custom software developed? I do C# development and consulting all over the United States. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane

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              Tomz_KV
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              Structured Query Language. Depending where it is used. It could mean a database server.

              TOMZ_KV

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              • F frattaro

                So I just finished a portion of a web application I'm writing, and I decided to count how many different languages I've used in this one aspx page. xhtml for the structure css for the display javascript for client side functionality xml for a modified treeview control xpath to navigate the modified treeview control c# for code behind asp.net for master pages and user controls sql for a gridview Things are pretty absurd for web developers. How many languages are you guys responsible for? -frattaro

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                Tomz_KV
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                Need to add ajax, flash and silver light.

                TOMZ_KV

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                • realJSOPR realJSOP

                  XML (and all its bastard variants) is a markup specification. It's not a language. ASP.Net is a collection of technologies ("classic" ASP wasn't a language either) that serves as a vehicle for allowing web pages utilize Microsoft proprietary scripting languages. CSS can't be considered a language because it has no control functionality. Declarative programming is akin to vocalized grunts that serve no specific purpose.

                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                  "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                  Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                  I am just giving you a hard time John because I know you can be riled up.

                  Need custom software developed? I do C# development and consulting all over the United States. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane

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                  • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                    I am just giving you a hard time John because I know you can be riled up.

                    Need custom software developed? I do C# development and consulting all over the United States. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane

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                    I'm not riled. :)

                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                    "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                    • J Jim Crafton

                      Yes, and while it's proof that if you bang on a square peg to get it to fit into a round hole long enough, the peg and hole will eventually deform to the point where you don't need to bang anymore, I still maintain that Web + application = absurd.

                      ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog Just Say No to Web 2 Point Oh

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                      What do you think this website is? It's a web application.

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                      • J Jim Crafton

                        Yes, and while it's proof that if you bang on a square peg to get it to fit into a round hole long enough, the peg and hole will eventually deform to the point where you don't need to bang anymore, I still maintain that Web + application = absurd.

                        ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog Just Say No to Web 2 Point Oh

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                        How else would you ensure that the peg stays in the hole?

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                        • J Jim Crafton

                          Well what I'm really whining about is trying to write network apps on top of a protocol that was never ever designed for it. What needs to happen is HTTP 2.0, but that's about as likely as cats making love to dogs.

                          ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog Just Say No to Web 2 Point Oh

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                          Oooohhh, now there's an image. :cool:

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                          • J Jim Crafton

                            Well what I'm really whining about is trying to write network apps on top of a protocol that was never ever designed for it. What needs to happen is HTTP 2.0, but that's about as likely as cats making love to dogs.

                            ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog Just Say No to Web 2 Point Oh

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                            Someone I went to HS with had a dog that did that to cats. His 2(?) year old brother took a picture and wanted to know what they were doing... :omg:

                            Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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                            • J Jim Crafton

                              Yes, and while it's proof that if you bang on a square peg to get it to fit into a round hole long enough, the peg and hole will eventually deform to the point where you don't need to bang anymore, I still maintain that Web + application = absurd.

                              ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog Just Say No to Web 2 Point Oh

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                              led mike
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                              Jim Crafton wrote:

                              Web + application = absurd.

                              Did you typo that? Isn't it Web + Applicaton = AJAX Look what formula is in your future. Buzz words + hype = cloud computing ;)

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                                whatever you want to call them. scripting syntaxes. the point was stated: the number of them is absurd. Give me a break.

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                                frattaro wrote:

                                Give me a break.

                                Ok. Post your address and we can send you some cheese to go with that whine.

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                                • D Dan Neely

                                  Someone I went to HS with had a dog that did that to cats. His 2(?) year old brother took a picture and wanted to know what they were doing... :omg:

                                  Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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                                  Jim Crafton
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                                  I hope his parents never mentioned the birds and the bees - I can only imagine the confusion that poor kid would have had. Bids and Bees, Cats and Dogs, how the hell did I get here?!

                                  ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog Just Say No to Web 2 Point Oh

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                                  • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                    XML (and all its bastard variants) is a markup specification. It's not a language. ASP.Net is a collection of technologies ("classic" ASP wasn't a language either) that serves as a vehicle for allowing web pages utilize Microsoft proprietary scripting languages. CSS can't be considered a language because it has no control functionality. Declarative programming is akin to vocalized grunts that serve no specific purpose.

                                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                                    -----
                                    "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                    Jim Crafton
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                                    John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                    Declarative programming is akin to vocalized grunts that serve no specific purpose.

                                    Finally a user friendly explanation for XAML!

                                    ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog Just Say No to Web 2 Point Oh

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                                    • L led mike

                                      Jim Crafton wrote:

                                      Web + application = absurd.

                                      Did you typo that? Isn't it Web + Applicaton = AJAX Look what formula is in your future. Buzz words + hype = cloud computing ;)

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                                      Jim Crafton
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                                      You're right - how could I have missed that? :omg:

                                      ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog Just Say No to Web 2 Point Oh

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                                      • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                        css isn't a "language". In the purest definition, neither is XML (including it's bastard variants). asp.net is not a language. xpath is not a language. I guess that leaves you with C#, javascript, and SQL. What's your point?

                                        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                                        "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                        peterchen
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                                        They definitely have the quality of a language.

                                        Burning Chrome ^ | Linkify!| FoldWithUs! | sighist

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                                        • J Jim Crafton

                                          I hope his parents never mentioned the birds and the bees - I can only imagine the confusion that poor kid would have had. Bids and Bees, Cats and Dogs, how the hell did I get here?!

                                          ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog Just Say No to Web 2 Point Oh

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                                          Dan Neely
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                                          I've no idea. It's been almost a decade since I talked to him.

                                          Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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