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  • N Nish Nishant

    Considering how they are the most technologically advanced country in the world, I wonder why they don't try to invent some sort of hyper-aquatic-farm where they can cultivate fast growing whales of all kinds. That'd give them their sashimi material :)

    Regards, Nish


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    Christian Graus
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    I suspect that because annoying the West is half the point.

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      Looks like someone decided to 1 vote you. I think that the Japanese are being incredibly obtuse about all of this. Their cultural right to eat whale is not that much older than any American's cultural right to drop nukes on Japan. Either way, there is nothing wrong with rejecting what our ancestors did in ignorance. That's why my 13 yo daughter is not married and pregnant. However, it's clear that the green movement is at least as much focused on profit as on saving the earth, and I'd never take any piece of green propaganda at face value, or assume they did not help to engineer the situation.

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      Christopher Duncan
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      Was the Ady Gil harrassing the Japanese whaler, trying to make a point? I ask because that's not an uncommon green tactic, and judging by the water cannon activity I'd say that there was definitely a fight of some sort going on prior to the collision. Perhaps the green guys never got around to reading that bit from Sun Tzu about knowing your enemy. While many nations in history had a warrior culture, Japan refined it and took it to extremes for many, many centuries. America nuked Japan because we understood them enough to realize that nothing less would even get their attention, let alone stop them. And this is the culture that the green guys want to play chicken with? Somebody seriously needs to send them some old Akira Kurosawa / Toshiro Mifune movies.

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      • N Nish Nishant

        Considering how they are the most technologically advanced country in the world, I wonder why they don't try to invent some sort of hyper-aquatic-farm where they can cultivate fast growing whales of all kinds. That'd give them their sashimi material :)

        Regards, Nish


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        _Damian S_
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        The funniest part is that most Japanese don't eat whale meat... there are warehouses full of the stuff that they can't sell, but still they continue their "scientific research program" to get more...

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          The funniest part is that most Japanese don't eat whale meat... there are warehouses full of the stuff that they can't sell, but still they continue their "scientific research program" to get more...

          I don't have ADHD, I have ADOS... Attention Deficit oooh SHINY!! Booger Mobile (n) - A bright green 1964 Ford Falcon - our entry into the Camp Quality esCarpade!! Do something wonderful - make a donation to Camp Quality today!!

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          AspDotNetDev
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          _Damian S_ wrote:

          there are warehouses full of the stuff

          Maybe they're just stockpiling it in anticipation of the inevitable extinction. ;P

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            _Damian S_ wrote:

            there are warehouses full of the stuff

            Maybe they're just stockpiling it in anticipation of the inevitable extinction. ;P

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            Christian Graus
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            Which will, of course, create a monopoly.

            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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            • C Christian Graus

              Which will, of course, create a monopoly.

              Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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              _Damian S_
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              Christian Graus wrote:

              monopoly

              If they played that, there'd be no time to hunt whales!!

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              • R RichardM1

                I guess I'm glad nobody was hurt, but shouldn't you expect this from people you say have no respect for life and then steer ride right in front of? [anti-whaling-boat-Ady-Gil-cut-in-half-by-Japanese-ship]

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                Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                All of those actors were involved in piracy as defined by the U.N. so I can't say I am really to concerned about criminals getting what they deserve. ... Especially since the show is so incredibly boring.

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                • C Christian Graus

                  Which will, of course, create a monopoly.

                  Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                  Chris Austin
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                  Maybe they are just trying to preserve the DNA for future cloning and whatnot.

                  And above all things, never think that you're not good enough yourself. A man should never think that. My belief is that in life people will take you at your own reckoning. --Isaac Asimov Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell

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                    Maybe they are just trying to preserve the DNA for future cloning and whatnot.

                    And above all things, never think that you're not good enough yourself. A man should never think that. My belief is that in life people will take you at your own reckoning. --Isaac Asimov Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell

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                    AspDotNetDev
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                    And rather than just use a sample from one whale, they want samples from every whale. That way, they can preserve biodiversity. Now that's environmental dedication!

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                    • A AspDotNetDev

                      Christian Graus wrote:

                      my 13 yo daughter is not married and pregnant

                      So which of the two is she? If anything, the former is probably the better choice.

                      Christian Graus wrote:

                      the green movement is at least as much focused on profit as on saving the earth

                      I've heard of profit being used to lure in unsuspecting businessmen in order to make them go green. Just because they are used together does not mean they are interested in saving the earth because of profit. That being said...

                      Christian Graus wrote:

                      never take any piece of green propaganda at face value

                      That's probably good advice.

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                      Christian Graus
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                      my 13 yo is not (married + pregnant).

                      aspdotnetdev wrote:

                      because they are used together does not mean they are interested in saving the earth because of profit

                      They tell themselves they are doing good, but when they subvert truth to increase profit, they are fooling themselves.

                      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                      • C Christian Graus

                        my 13 yo is not (married + pregnant).

                        aspdotnetdev wrote:

                        because they are used together does not mean they are interested in saving the earth because of profit

                        They tell themselves they are doing good, but when they subvert truth to increase profit, they are fooling themselves.

                        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                        AspDotNetDev
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                        Christian Graus wrote:

                        my 13 yo is not (married + pregnant).

                        Ah, so she is neither married nor pregnant.

                        Christian Graus wrote:

                        they are fooling themselves.

                        Then at least they are being honest to everyone else!

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                        • R RichardM1

                          I guess I'm glad nobody was hurt, but shouldn't you expect this from people you say have no respect for life and then steer ride right in front of? [anti-whaling-boat-Ady-Gil-cut-in-half-by-Japanese-ship]

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                          TheCardinal
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                          i really like the design of the boat (ady gil) :D hoping that they still continue there vigilance towards the protection of this becoming extinct species. no matter the cost! :D

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                            i really like the design of the boat (ady gil) :D hoping that they still continue there vigilance towards the protection of this becoming extinct species. no matter the cost! :D

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                            _Damian S_
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                            TheCardinal wrote:

                            vigilance

                            is fine... but they are slipping into vigilante mode too often for my liking... someone's going to get hurt!!

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                              I guess I'm glad nobody was hurt, but shouldn't you expect this from people you say have no respect for life and then steer ride right in front of? [anti-whaling-boat-Ady-Gil-cut-in-half-by-Japanese-ship]

                              Opacity, the new Transparency.

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                              The ICR countered that the Ady Gil had come "within collision distance" directly in front of the Nisshin Maru bow and repeatedly deployed a rope from its stern "to entangle the Japanese vessel's rudder and propeller" The d1ckheads should be keelhauled. I assume that they're sponsored to play games in fun boats year long by grannies and children, who give their precious pennies to protect pretty whales. The most idiotic of cretins would know that the only way to stop whaling is by diplomacy and negotiation, and that the actions of these idiots only gain the whaling industry more support -- but they don't care about that; they just want to play pirate.

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                                I guess I'm glad nobody was hurt, but shouldn't you expect this from people you say have no respect for life and then steer ride right in front of? [anti-whaling-boat-Ady-Gil-cut-in-half-by-Japanese-ship]

                                Opacity, the new Transparency.

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                                Dario Solera
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                                ... but they should really get a clue on how to drive a boat. Technically, it's the Ady Gil that hit the Japanese ship, which certainly cannot make turns rapidly because it's huge. Besides, do you Japanese guys really, absolutely need to eat whales?

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                                  ... but they should really get a clue on how to drive a boat. Technically, it's the Ady Gil that hit the Japanese ship, which certainly cannot make turns rapidly because it's huge. Besides, do you Japanese guys really, absolutely need to eat whales?

                                  If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Photos/CP Flickr Group - ScrewTurn Wiki v3

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                                  Dario Solera wrote:

                                  Besides, do you Japanese guys really, absolutely need to eat whales?

                                  Humans kill to eat. There's no getting around that unpleasant fact. The only choice we have is: Live with it or starve.

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                                    Dario Solera wrote:

                                    Besides, do you Japanese guys really, absolutely need to eat whales?

                                    Humans kill to eat. There's no getting around that unpleasant fact. The only choice we have is: Live with it or starve.

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                                    Vikram A Punathambekar
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                                    Mark Wallace wrote:

                                    The only choice we have is: Live with it or starve.

                                    With all due respect, that's rubbish.

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                                      Dario Solera wrote:

                                      Besides, do you Japanese guys really, absolutely need to eat whales?

                                      Humans kill to eat. There's no getting around that unpleasant fact. The only choice we have is: Live with it or starve.

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                                      Dario Solera
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                                      Well but there are a lot of other species you can eat and that are not in danger of extinction.

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                                        The ICR countered that the Ady Gil had come "within collision distance" directly in front of the Nisshin Maru bow and repeatedly deployed a rope from its stern "to entangle the Japanese vessel's rudder and propeller" The d1ckheads should be keelhauled. I assume that they're sponsored to play games in fun boats year long by grannies and children, who give their precious pennies to protect pretty whales. The most idiotic of cretins would know that the only way to stop whaling is by diplomacy and negotiation, and that the actions of these idiots only gain the whaling industry more support -- but they don't care about that; they just want to play pirate.

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                                        Russ T
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                                        Mark Wallace wrote:

                                        I assume that they're sponsored to play games in fun boats year long by grannies and children, who give their precious pennies to protect pretty whales

                                        Cynical and probably correct, but regardless, is trying to prevent endangered animals from being poached to extinction (within a marine sanctuary) really such a bad cause?

                                        Mark Wallace wrote:

                                        The most idiotic of cretins would know that the only way to stop whaling is by diplomacy and negotiation

                                        Uh-huh, they've been trying diplomacy since 1986[^] - meaning that it's been around 24 years with no results; sounds like it's time to try something else.

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                                          Well but there are a lot of other species you can eat and that are not in danger of extinction.

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                                          Haakon S
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                                          The minke whales they are hunting are NOT becoming extinct. There are several thousand of them.

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