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  • B Ben Breeg

    Hi all. As someone who has been with VB through all its various forms I would now like to stretch the 'little grey cells' by learning C#. Do you need to know C or C++ to succeed with C#? Do you have any recommendations for books or online resources that would really help a novice to get to grips with this language? Cheers.

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    David1987
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    Read ECMA 334[^] - yes it's long and mostly boring and repetitive, but if you even remember a quarter of it you will know more about C# than most. Then, read Eric Lipperts blog[^], and you will soon know enough about C# to help in the programming forums ;)

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    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

      No - you can (and many do) learn C# as the first programming language. In many ways, not knowing C or C++ can be an advantage and you don't wonder where the pointers have gone! If you are used to VB in it's .NET form then it is mostly a case of adding semicolons, and being less verbose! You could do a lot worse than to pick up a copy of Rob Miles C# Yellow Book[^] - it's free and is the text tat Hull University use to teach beginners. But, if it doesn't suit you, get any Wrox or Apress: just avoid anything with "in 7 days" or exclamation marks in the title!

      Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."

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      OriginalGriff wrote:

      and you don't wonder where the pointers have gone!

      They have gone into unsafe blocks :)

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      • B Ben Breeg

        Hi all. As someone who has been with VB through all its various forms I would now like to stretch the 'little grey cells' by learning C#. Do you need to know C or C++ to succeed with C#? Do you have any recommendations for books or online resources that would really help a novice to get to grips with this language? Cheers.

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        AspDotNetDev
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        Benjamin Breeg wrote:

        As someone who has been with VB through all its various forms

        Including VB.NET? If so, then C# will be very easy to learn, considering it uses the same base library as VB.NET (.NET Framework). Here is the same code snippet in each language for comparison:

        ' VB.NET version.
        Public Class TheClass
        Private m_someCount As Integer
        Public Property SomeCount As Integer
        Get
        Return Me.m_someCount
        End Get
        Set(value As Integer)
        Me.m_someCount = value
        End Set
        End Property
        Public Sub New()
        Me.SomeCount = 0
        End Sub
        Public Sub DoStuff()
        MessageBox.Show(String.Format("Some Count = {0}", Me.SomeCount.ToString()))
        End Sub
        End Class

        // C# version.
        public class TheClass
        {
        private int m_someCount;
        public int SomeCount
        {
        get
        {
        return this.m_someCount;
        }
        set
        {
        this.m_someCount = value;
        }
        }
        public TheClass()
        {
        this.SomeCount = 0;
        }
        public void DoStuff()
        {
        MessageBox.Show(string.Format("Some Count = {0}", this.SomeCount.ToString()));
        }
        }

        I'd say find either a C# Windows Forms book or a C# ASP.NET book (depending on if you want to do desktop or web work). And once you are comfortable with C#, then maybe get a WPF book.

        Chris Maunder wrote:

        Fixign now.

        But who's fixing the fixign?

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        • B Ben Breeg

          Hi all. As someone who has been with VB through all its various forms I would now like to stretch the 'little grey cells' by learning C#. Do you need to know C or C++ to succeed with C#? Do you have any recommendations for books or online resources that would really help a novice to get to grips with this language? Cheers.

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          AspDotNetDev
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          One more thing. If you are into making games, you might want to read an XNA book.

          Benjamin Breeg wrote:

          online resources

          I'm sure there must be a few Code Project articles related to C# that would interest you. For example, "Quick C#" seems to cover the basics, though it doesn't cover some of the syntax in the new versions of C#. It also leaves out some of the advanced stuff, like generics and LINQ. A book would probably be better if you want more comprehensive coverage.

          Chris Maunder wrote:

          Fixign now.

          But who's fixing the fixign?

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          • D David1987

            OriginalGriff wrote:

            and you don't wonder where the pointers have gone!

            They have gone into unsafe blocks :)

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            OriginalGriff
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            And there they will stay! Despite the whole language using them for everything and hiding it from view... :laugh:

            Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."

            "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
            "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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            • B Ben Breeg

              Hi all. As someone who has been with VB through all its various forms I would now like to stretch the 'little grey cells' by learning C#. Do you need to know C or C++ to succeed with C#? Do you have any recommendations for books or online resources that would really help a novice to get to grips with this language? Cheers.

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              JimmyRopes
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              Benjamin Breeg wrote:

              someone who has been with VB through all its various forms

              Sorry for your luck.

              Benjamin Breeg wrote:

              Do you need to know C or C++ to succeed with C#?

              Not necessarily, but it helps. If you know vb.net you already know the .net namespaces so learning the c# syntax is all that is left.

              Benjamin Breeg wrote:

              Do you have any recommendations for books or online resources that would really help a novice to get to grips with this language?

              C# Corner[^] MSDN C# Toutorials[^] MSDN C# Walkthroughs[^] and, of course Code Project C# forum[^] C# syntax will be a little strange at first, but stick with it. After a while you will look at vb.net as being the strange way of doing things.

              Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
              Think inside the box! ProActive Secure Systems
              I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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              • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                No - you can (and many do) learn C# as the first programming language. In many ways, not knowing C or C++ can be an advantage and you don't wonder where the pointers have gone! If you are used to VB in it's .NET form then it is mostly a case of adding semicolons, and being less verbose! You could do a lot worse than to pick up a copy of Rob Miles C# Yellow Book[^] - it's free and is the text tat Hull University use to teach beginners. But, if it doesn't suit you, get any Wrox or Apress: just avoid anything with "in 7 days" or exclamation marks in the title!

                Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."

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                Ben Breeg
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                Thanks for the info. Rob Miles book is very good. Cheers.

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                • B Ben Breeg

                  Thanks for the info. Rob Miles book is very good. Cheers.

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                  OriginalGriff
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                  Welcome!

                  Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."

                  "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                  "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                  • J JimmyRopes

                    Benjamin Breeg wrote:

                    someone who has been with VB through all its various forms

                    Sorry for your luck.

                    Benjamin Breeg wrote:

                    Do you need to know C or C++ to succeed with C#?

                    Not necessarily, but it helps. If you know vb.net you already know the .net namespaces so learning the c# syntax is all that is left.

                    Benjamin Breeg wrote:

                    Do you have any recommendations for books or online resources that would really help a novice to get to grips with this language?

                    C# Corner[^] MSDN C# Toutorials[^] MSDN C# Walkthroughs[^] and, of course Code Project C# forum[^] C# syntax will be a little strange at first, but stick with it. After a while you will look at vb.net as being the strange way of doing things.

                    Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
                    Think inside the box! ProActive Secure Systems
                    I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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                    Ben Breeg
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                    Thanks for taking the time to provide the info; much appreciated. I have coded with vb.net and someone very thoughtfully provided a small prog in vb and C# to compare. So it seems to me that you're correct in saying that it's just a case of learning the new syntax judging by the differences between the two provided code samples. Cheers.

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                    • A AspDotNetDev

                      Benjamin Breeg wrote:

                      As someone who has been with VB through all its various forms

                      Including VB.NET? If so, then C# will be very easy to learn, considering it uses the same base library as VB.NET (.NET Framework). Here is the same code snippet in each language for comparison:

                      ' VB.NET version.
                      Public Class TheClass
                      Private m_someCount As Integer
                      Public Property SomeCount As Integer
                      Get
                      Return Me.m_someCount
                      End Get
                      Set(value As Integer)
                      Me.m_someCount = value
                      End Set
                      End Property
                      Public Sub New()
                      Me.SomeCount = 0
                      End Sub
                      Public Sub DoStuff()
                      MessageBox.Show(String.Format("Some Count = {0}", Me.SomeCount.ToString()))
                      End Sub
                      End Class

                      // C# version.
                      public class TheClass
                      {
                      private int m_someCount;
                      public int SomeCount
                      {
                      get
                      {
                      return this.m_someCount;
                      }
                      set
                      {
                      this.m_someCount = value;
                      }
                      }
                      public TheClass()
                      {
                      this.SomeCount = 0;
                      }
                      public void DoStuff()
                      {
                      MessageBox.Show(string.Format("Some Count = {0}", this.SomeCount.ToString()));
                      }
                      }

                      I'd say find either a C# Windows Forms book or a C# ASP.NET book (depending on if you want to do desktop or web work). And once you are comfortable with C#, then maybe get a WPF book.

                      Chris Maunder wrote:

                      Fixign now.

                      But who's fixing the fixign?

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                      Ben Breeg
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #12

                      Thanks for providing the code samples. There doesn't appear to be a great difference between the two on the face of it, but I'm sure they'll be a few subtleties that'll catch me out. :laugh:

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                      • B Ben Breeg

                        Thanks for taking the time to provide the info; much appreciated. I have coded with vb.net and someone very thoughtfully provided a small prog in vb and C# to compare. So it seems to me that you're correct in saying that it's just a case of learning the new syntax judging by the differences between the two provided code samples. Cheers.

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                        JimmyRopes
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                        #13

                        Yes it is just syntax once you are familiar with the .net foundation. You'll find C# to be much less writing so you can concentrate on what it is you are trying to accomplish. You'll get used to it is a short time.

                        Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
                        Think inside the box! ProActive Secure Systems
                        I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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                        • B Ben Breeg

                          Hi all. As someone who has been with VB through all its various forms I would now like to stretch the 'little grey cells' by learning C#. Do you need to know C or C++ to succeed with C#? Do you have any recommendations for books or online resources that would really help a novice to get to grips with this language? Cheers.

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                          Brady Kelly
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                          I haven't read the book, but the man is a genius, so I will recommend Job Skeet's C# In Depth.

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