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  • A Argonia

    Please, remind me how the green dude in the left top corner (which is now with the 2 bats , the white cloth and the cute bag) was named ?

    Microsoft ... the only place where VARIANT_TRUE != true

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    OriginalGriff
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    I don't discuss religion or politics in the lounge.

    The only instant messaging I do involves my middle finger. English doesn't borrow from other languages. English follows other languages down dark alleys, knocks them over and goes through their pockets for loose grammar.

    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
    "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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    • C Christopher Duncan

      Okay, I realize I'm late to the party with this realization, but still... I've stuck with web forms and server side C# for years because it felt like a 'normal' development environment. Now I remember why. I'm in the land of mvc, javascript, jquery, etc., at which point I need to set breakpoints, inspect variables, you know, the things one would expect a development environment to allow. And you can't set breakpoints or debug javascript in VS 2012. I had to install Firebug in order to get a debugger. Are you freakin' kidding me? If the Firefox / Firebug team can debug javascript, then it's clearly possible. So how is it that the VS team is so incompetent that they can't provide this most basic functionality in what's supposed to be a professional class development environment? Please, for the love of Bob, would someone come up with a cross platform application designed to run global tcp/ip programs (i.e. a replacement for the crappy app VM known as a browser)? Web browsers, html, javascript et al comprise the most amateur hour environment I've ever seen. I had better tools coding for DOS.

      Christopher Duncan Author of Unite the Tribes: Leadership Skills for Technology Managers Have Fun, Get Paid: How to Make a Living with Your Creativity The Career Programmer

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      Christopher Duncan wrote:

      Please, for the love of Bob, would someone come up with a cross platform application

      Here you go... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Bob[^] :)


      Common sense is admitting there is cause and effect and that you can exert some control over what you understand.

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        Okay, I realize I'm late to the party with this realization, but still... I've stuck with web forms and server side C# for years because it felt like a 'normal' development environment. Now I remember why. I'm in the land of mvc, javascript, jquery, etc., at which point I need to set breakpoints, inspect variables, you know, the things one would expect a development environment to allow. And you can't set breakpoints or debug javascript in VS 2012. I had to install Firebug in order to get a debugger. Are you freakin' kidding me? If the Firefox / Firebug team can debug javascript, then it's clearly possible. So how is it that the VS team is so incompetent that they can't provide this most basic functionality in what's supposed to be a professional class development environment? Please, for the love of Bob, would someone come up with a cross platform application designed to run global tcp/ip programs (i.e. a replacement for the crappy app VM known as a browser)? Web browsers, html, javascript et al comprise the most amateur hour environment I've ever seen. I had better tools coding for DOS.

        Christopher Duncan Author of Unite the Tribes: Leadership Skills for Technology Managers Have Fun, Get Paid: How to Make a Living with Your Creativity The Career Programmer

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        Yep, it sucks that you can't do that from VS. I just use the old IE F12 and set breakpoints there. At least you can see what is going on, or verify that events are firing...which is one of my gripes with IE10 at the moment.

        "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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