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  • L Lost User

    It would be better to say that JavaScript is the new C64 BASIC. It's just as fast, efficient and fun to debug as any old interpreter and allows any {place insulting word of choice here] who was too dumb to understand object orientation or get used to data types to freely create programing horrors. (*) Cool-Aid of the day. Have a big cup. :)

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    CPallini
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    Well, it is a scripting language, after all: the one having even the very name misleading. :-D

    Veni, vidi, vici.

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    • A AlphaDeltaTheta

      JavaScrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrripppppppt!!!!! If I had a time machine, I would have gone to past and burnt the blueprints!!!:mad:

      Beauty cannot be defined by abscissas and ordinates; neither are circles and ellipses created by their geometrical formulas. Carl von Clausewitz Source

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      Amitosh S.M. wrote:

      blueprints

      Blueprints? :-)

      Veni, vidi, vici.

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        JavaScrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrripppppppt!!!!! If I had a time machine, I would have gone to past and burnt the blueprints!!!:mad:

        Beauty cannot be defined by abscissas and ordinates; neither are circles and ellipses created by their geometrical formulas. Carl von Clausewitz Source

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        Marc Clifton
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        Amitosh S.M. wrote:

        If I had a time machine, I would have gone to past and burnt the blueprints!!!

        I would go back even further and burned the original implementation of HTML! Marc

        Day 1: Spider Database Navigator Unit Testing Succinctly

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        • L Lost User

          It would be better to say that JavaScript is the new C64 BASIC. It's just as fast, efficient and fun to debug as any old interpreter and allows any {place insulting word of choice here] who was too dumb to understand object orientation or get used to data types to freely create programing horrors. (*) Cool-Aid of the day. Have a big cup. :)

          Sent from my BatComputer via HAL 9000 and M5

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          Roger Wright
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          Okay, BASIC I'll go for, but don't impugn Assembly. It takes far more knowledge of hardware, and programming skill, to build a useful program using Assembly than any of the modern languages. And yes, sometimes it has to be done...

          Will Rogers never met me.

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            Okay, BASIC I'll go for, but don't impugn Assembly. It takes far more knowledge of hardware, and programming skill, to build a useful program using Assembly than any of the modern languages. And yes, sometimes it has to be done...

            Will Rogers never met me.

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            Does this assembly stuff look like this? :)

            ; =========================================================================================
            ; Parameters:
            ; RE.0 X coordinate of the sprite
            ; RE.1 Y coordinate of the sprite
            ; RF Pointer to sprite
            ; RD Size of the sprite in bytes
            ;
            ; Internal:
            ; RC Pointer to video memory
            ; =========================================================================================

            DrawSprite: DEC R2
            LDI hi(DisplayBuffer) ; calculate the offset in the video buffer
            PHI RC ; DisplayBuffer + Y * 8 + X / 8
            GHI RE ; result goes to RC

            		IF Resolution == 20H
            		ANI  1FH			; between 0 - 31
            		ENDIF
            			
            		IF Resolution == 40H
            		ANI  3FH			; or 0 - 63
            		ENDIF
            
            		IF Resolution == 80H
            		ANI  7FH			; or 0 - 127
            		ENDIF
            
            		SHL
            		SHL
            		SHL
            		PLO  RC
            		BNF  DSP\_SkipIncrement
            		GHI  RC
            		ADI  01H
            		PHI  RC
            

            DSP_SkipIncrement: GLO RC
            STR R2
            GLO RE
            ANI 3FH
            SHR
            SHR
            SHR
            ADD
            PLO RC
            GLO RE ; calculate the number of required shifts
            ANI 07H ; result to RE.1, replacing the Y coordinate
            PHI RE ; RE.0 will be used later to count the shifts

            DSP_ByteLoop: GLO RD ; exit if all bytes of the sprite have been drawn
            BZ DSP_Exit

            		IF Resolution == 20H		; or if we are about to draw outside the video buffer
            		LDI  hi(DisplayBuffer)		; only one page at 64 x 32
            		ENDIF
            
            		IF Resolution == 40H
            		LDI   hi(DisplayBuffer) + 1	; two pages at 64 x 64
            		ENDIF
            
            		IF Resolution == 80H
            		LDI   hi(DisplayBuffer) + 3	; four pages at 64 x 128
            		ENDIF
            
            		STR  R2
            		GHI  RC
            		SD
            		BNF  DSP\_Exit
            		LDN	 RF			; load the next byte of the sprite into RB.0
            		PLO  RB
            		LDI  00H		; set RB.1 to OOH
            		PHI  RB
            		DEC  RD				; decrement the sprite's byte counter
            		INC  RF				; increment the pointer to the sprite's bytes
            		GHI  RE				; prepare the shift counter
            		PLO  RE
            

            DSP_ShiftLoop: GLO RE ; exit the loop if all shifts have been performed
            BZ DSP_ShiftExit
            DEC RE ; decrement the shift counter
            GLO RB ; shift the values in RB
            SHR
            PLO RB
            GHI RB
            RSHR
            PHI RB
            BR DSP_ShiftLoop
            DSP_ShiftExit: SEX RC ; store the shifted bytes in the video buffer
            GLO RB
            XOR
            STR RC
            INC RC
            GHI RB
            XOR
            STR RC
            SEX R2
            GLO RC ; advance the video buffer pointer to the next line
            ADI 07H
            PLO RC
            GHI RC
            ADCI 00H
            PHI RC
            BR DSP_ByteLoop
            DSP_Ex

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            • L Lost User

              Does this assembly stuff look like this? :)

              ; =========================================================================================
              ; Parameters:
              ; RE.0 X coordinate of the sprite
              ; RE.1 Y coordinate of the sprite
              ; RF Pointer to sprite
              ; RD Size of the sprite in bytes
              ;
              ; Internal:
              ; RC Pointer to video memory
              ; =========================================================================================

              DrawSprite: DEC R2
              LDI hi(DisplayBuffer) ; calculate the offset in the video buffer
              PHI RC ; DisplayBuffer + Y * 8 + X / 8
              GHI RE ; result goes to RC

              		IF Resolution == 20H
              		ANI  1FH			; between 0 - 31
              		ENDIF
              			
              		IF Resolution == 40H
              		ANI  3FH			; or 0 - 63
              		ENDIF
              
              		IF Resolution == 80H
              		ANI  7FH			; or 0 - 127
              		ENDIF
              
              		SHL
              		SHL
              		SHL
              		PLO  RC
              		BNF  DSP\_SkipIncrement
              		GHI  RC
              		ADI  01H
              		PHI  RC
              

              DSP_SkipIncrement: GLO RC
              STR R2
              GLO RE
              ANI 3FH
              SHR
              SHR
              SHR
              ADD
              PLO RC
              GLO RE ; calculate the number of required shifts
              ANI 07H ; result to RE.1, replacing the Y coordinate
              PHI RE ; RE.0 will be used later to count the shifts

              DSP_ByteLoop: GLO RD ; exit if all bytes of the sprite have been drawn
              BZ DSP_Exit

              		IF Resolution == 20H		; or if we are about to draw outside the video buffer
              		LDI  hi(DisplayBuffer)		; only one page at 64 x 32
              		ENDIF
              
              		IF Resolution == 40H
              		LDI   hi(DisplayBuffer) + 1	; two pages at 64 x 64
              		ENDIF
              
              		IF Resolution == 80H
              		LDI   hi(DisplayBuffer) + 3	; four pages at 64 x 128
              		ENDIF
              
              		STR  R2
              		GHI  RC
              		SD
              		BNF  DSP\_Exit
              		LDN	 RF			; load the next byte of the sprite into RB.0
              		PLO  RB
              		LDI  00H		; set RB.1 to OOH
              		PHI  RB
              		DEC  RD				; decrement the sprite's byte counter
              		INC  RF				; increment the pointer to the sprite's bytes
              		GHI  RE				; prepare the shift counter
              		PLO  RE
              

              DSP_ShiftLoop: GLO RE ; exit the loop if all shifts have been performed
              BZ DSP_ShiftExit
              DEC RE ; decrement the shift counter
              GLO RB ; shift the values in RB
              SHR
              PLO RB
              GHI RB
              RSHR
              PHI RB
              BR DSP_ShiftLoop
              DSP_ShiftExit: SEX RC ; store the shifted bytes in the video buffer
              GLO RB
              XOR
              STR RC
              INC RC
              GHI RB
              XOR
              STR RC
              SEX R2
              GLO RC ; advance the video buffer pointer to the next line
              ADI 07H
              PLO RC
              GHI RC
              ADCI 00H
              PHI RC
              BR DSP_ByteLoop
              DSP_Ex

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              Roger Wright
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              Yup.. That's the stuff. :-D

              Will Rogers never met me.

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              • R Roger Wright

                Yup.. That's the stuff. :-D

                Will Rogers never met me.

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                Lost User
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                Ahh, good morning (at leat it is early morning here). I got this drivel from here[^]. While I don't enjoy JavaScript very much, I still have some assembly which I occasionally work on. The code I have posted is used to draw a bitmap patten at any screen coordinates. I use it for text output, but also can be used to draw sprites in a game. That's why ther also collison detection. :)

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                • CPalliniC CPallini

                  Amitosh S.M. wrote:

                  blueprints

                  Blueprints? :-)

                  Veni, vidi, vici.

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                  Rob Grainger
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                  In the UK they are planning plain packaging on cigarette packets - just think of all the extra space for sketching designs such as these.

                  "If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough." Alan Kay.

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                  • M Marc Clifton

                    Amitosh S.M. wrote:

                    If I had a time machine, I would have gone to past and burnt the blueprints!!!

                    I would go back even further and burned the original implementation of HTML! Marc

                    Day 1: Spider Database Navigator Unit Testing Succinctly

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                    Rob Grainger
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                    Hear hear! (I could go into a similar rant about failing to learn from existing technologies to my SQL one they other day. In this case forerunners such as Doug Englebart (The Mother of all Demos), Ted Nelson (who coined the phrase Hypertext) and Apple's HyperCard. They really should stop these scientists hacking.

                    "If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough." Alan Kay.

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                    • R Rob Grainger

                      In the UK they are planning plain packaging on cigarette packets - just think of all the extra space for sketching designs such as these.

                      "If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough." Alan Kay.

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                      CPallini
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                      E. Majorana would have been happy.

                      Veni, vidi, vici.

                      In testa che avete, signor di Ceprano?

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                      • L Lost User

                        It would be better to say that JavaScript is the new C64 BASIC. It's just as fast, efficient and fun to debug as any old interpreter and allows any {place insulting word of choice here] who was too dumb to understand object orientation or get used to data types to freely create programing horrors. (*) Cool-Aid of the day. Have a big cup. :)

                        Sent from my BatComputer via HAL 9000 and M5

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                        CDP1802 wrote:

                        allows any {place insulting word of choice here]

                        I believe that code block is not properly closed. I don't think you would want to debug that kind of error in a Javascript file...

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                          Hear hear! (I could go into a similar rant about failing to learn from existing technologies to my SQL one they other day. In this case forerunners such as Doug Englebart (The Mother of all Demos), Ted Nelson (who coined the phrase Hypertext) and Apple's HyperCard. They really should stop these scientists hacking.

                          "If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough." Alan Kay.

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                          Rob Grainger wrote:

                          and Apple's HyperCard.

                          I actually wish HyperCard was still around - I guess we have PowerPoint nowadays, but it's really not the same thing. One day I'll get back to working on http://app.intertexti.com/[^], my resurrection attempt (sort of.) ;) Marc

                          Day 1: Spider Database Navigator Unit Testing Succinctly

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                          • CPalliniC CPallini

                            Amitosh S.M. wrote:

                            blueprints

                            Blueprints? :-)

                            Veni, vidi, vici.

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                            CPallini wrote:

                            Blueprints?

                            Something used in Medieval times (My sophomore year of college) to make inexpensive copies of plans. Huge sheets of paper were used to create drawings of a design. (Written by hand, in pencil. Computers did exist, but were rather mythical. The head office was rumored to have one!) Another sheet the same size was immersed in chemicals was placed up to the plan, a special light was shined through both. The pencil marks blocked the light, the rest of the paper reacted to the light and turned blue, while the blocked portions remained white. In ancient times, this was the way structures were built. To this day, any kind of plan in any kind of medium is still called a blueprint by a fair segment of the population. (Mostly by people who have actually seen a blueprint or were infected by the people who still call it that.)

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                            • M Marc Clifton

                              Amitosh S.M. wrote:

                              If I had a time machine, I would have gone to past and burnt the blueprints!!!

                              I would go back even further and burned the original implementation of HTML! Marc

                              Day 1: Spider Database Navigator Unit Testing Succinctly

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                              Marc Clifton wrote:

                              I would go back even further

                              Hate to tell you this, but blueprints predate HTML about a hundred years. You would have to go back even sooner.

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                                CPallini wrote:

                                Blueprints?

                                Something used in Medieval times (My sophomore year of college) to make inexpensive copies of plans. Huge sheets of paper were used to create drawings of a design. (Written by hand, in pencil. Computers did exist, but were rather mythical. The head office was rumored to have one!) Another sheet the same size was immersed in chemicals was placed up to the plan, a special light was shined through both. The pencil marks blocked the light, the rest of the paper reacted to the light and turned blue, while the blocked portions remained white. In ancient times, this was the way structures were built. To this day, any kind of plan in any kind of medium is still called a blueprint by a fair segment of the population. (Mostly by people who have actually seen a blueprint or were infected by the people who still call it that.)

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                                CPallini
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                                I know that. However it would imply there were a plan behind JavaScript. :-D

                                Veni, vidi, vici.

                                In testa che avete, signor di Ceprano?

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                                  Marc Clifton wrote:

                                  I would go back even further

                                  Hate to tell you this, but blueprints predate HTML about a hundred years. You would have to go back even sooner.

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                                  KP Lee wrote:

                                  but blueprints predate HTML about a hundred years.

                                  Harhar. Well, then we might as well go back to the discovery of the wheel. Or better yet, fire. ;) Marc

                                  Day 1: Spider Database Navigator Unit Testing Succinctly

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                                  • A Andrei Straut

                                    CDP1802 wrote:

                                    allows any {place insulting word of choice here]

                                    I believe that code block is not properly closed. I don't think you would want to debug that kind of error in a Javascript file...

                                    This isn't a signature

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                                    KP Lee
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                                    Andrei Straut wrote:

                                    I believe that code block is not properly closed

                                    For a computer compiler probably, but even there you could code "{]" or "[}" as a pair of opening and closing braces.

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                                    • CPalliniC CPallini

                                      I know that. However it would imply there were a plan behind JavaScript. :-D

                                      Veni, vidi, vici.

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                                      KP Lee
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                                      There definitely were plans behind JavaScript, but then you got people like me with no object oriented training picking it up and using it. Worked fine for what I needed, didn't even need to recognize there was OOP intent in the design.

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                                      • M Marc Clifton

                                        KP Lee wrote:

                                        but blueprints predate HTML about a hundred years.

                                        Harhar. Well, then we might as well go back to the discovery of the wheel. Or better yet, fire. ;) Marc

                                        Day 1: Spider Database Navigator Unit Testing Succinctly

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                                        Sorry, misstated that, I intended that when you were moving back in time you would have to hit the breaks sooner to hit just before HTML. IE less distance back in time, not more. I may have also totally misread what you said. By the way, since you want something better than HTML at a time when HTML was a trailblazing concept, how would you go about convincing the designer "your" idea is better?

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                                        • L Lost User

                                          It would be better to say that JavaScript is the new C64 BASIC. It's just as fast, efficient and fun to debug as any old interpreter and allows any {place insulting word of choice here] who was too dumb to understand object orientation or get used to data types to freely create programing horrors. (*) Cool-Aid of the day. Have a big cup. :)

                                          Sent from my BatComputer via HAL 9000 and M5

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                                          I think that's why I like JS so much - it reminds me of the C64. However, I wouldn't use it for large applications, but scripts of a few hundred or thousand lines or so are fun to code in JS. I like OOP too, though I often think it's an overkill on simple scripts. I suppose as a hobbyist I don't have to deal with a hundred thousand lines plus of code, which would probably change my perspective.

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