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  • S Slacker007

    Matt McGuire wrote:

    I've avoided C# thus far

    Matt McGuire wrote:

    I just don't enjoy it.

    How do you know you don't like brussel sprouts unless you try them. :-D

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    Brady Kelly
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    I love brussel sprouts. And broccoli. :)

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    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

      Come to that, you don't need VS to build C# apps for windows either...the .NET framework ships with csc.exe

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      Right. /ravi

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      • B Brady Kelly

        I love brussel sprouts. And broccoli. :)

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        :thumbsup: for broccoli. :thumbsdown: for the sprouts.

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        • V Vark111

          Well you can, just not so sure it's a good idea.

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          PhilLenoir
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          It's an excellent idea. Let's arrange that for the next CP Get-together?

          Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.

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          • RaviBeeR RaviBee

            Matt McGuire wrote:

            If Xamarin sponsors Mono, and Mono supports multiple languages (not just C#) why wouldn't Xamarin?

            I believe Xamarin has focused on C# and F# because of the strong integration with Microsoft's tooling.  I expect to see a stronger partnership between the two companies, perhaps even an acquisition[^].

            Matt McGuire wrote:

            I've avoided C# thus far

            Nothing wrong with that.  However, if you're in the Microsoft space, there are several advantages to using C# over C or C++ (more than can be fit into this post).  For me (being a C# developer), Xamarin provides the ability to be productive writing Android code a lot faster than using Java (in which I'm proficient) and Eclipse/XStudio.  It also allows me to build for iOS/Mac without the need to learn (and work around) Objective-C. However, I can see why native Java and Objective-C devs would have little interest in learning C# to use Xamarin to build their apps.  Java/Eclipse,XStudio and ObjectiveC/XCode are well suited tools for building apps for their respective platforms. /ravi

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            What about ... dare I say it ... VB (gasp). Or Fortran.NET .... COBOL.NET. I've mentioned COBOL 3 times this week. I fear my account may get deleted.:~

            Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.

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            • S Slacker007

              :thumbsup: for broccoli. :thumbsdown: for the sprouts.

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              Brady Kelly
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              Brussel sprouts with butter and lemon juice. :rose:

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              • P PhilLenoir

                What about ... dare I say it ... VB (gasp). Or Fortran.NET .... COBOL.NET. I've mentioned COBOL 3 times this week. I fear my account may get deleted.:~

                Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.

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                Brady Kelly
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                I have respected COBOL diploma somewhere. Never coded a single line of it outside of that course though.

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                • P PhilLenoir

                  What about ... dare I say it ... VB (gasp). Or Fortran.NET .... COBOL.NET. I've mentioned COBOL 3 times this week. I fear my account may get deleted.:~

                  Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.

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                  Brady Kelly
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                  I recently did some VB.NET work. For a few days, close together, a year it's not that bad.

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                  • B Brady Kelly

                    I recently did some VB.NET work. For a few days, close together, a year it's not that bad.

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                    PhilLenoir
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                    I know, I use VB not C#. But there are those here that just LOVE their curly braces and semicolons. It's a bit like Catholics and heaven - they like to think they're the only ones here!

                    Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.

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                    • P PhilLenoir

                      It's an excellent idea. Let's arrange that for the next CP Get-together?

                      Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.

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                      I agree, I wonder if I'll actually get what I ordered, if I'm holding a javalin? Who am I kidding, it'll still be wrong..

                      "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst

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                        I agree, I wonder if I'll actually get what I ordered, if I'm holding a javalin? Who am I kidding, it'll still be wrong..

                        "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst

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                        There's your big mistake: Holding it is no use. Spear a few of the buggers to incentivize the remainder.

                        Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.

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                        • B Brady Kelly

                          Brussel sprouts with butter and lemon juice. :rose:

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                          Jorgen Andersson
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                          Brussel sprouts with sirloin steak and fried potatoes without the brussel sprouts. :thumbsup: Best description ever[^]

                          Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello Any organization is like a tree full of monkeys. The monkeys on top look down and see a tree full of smiling faces. The monkeys on the bottom look up and see nothing but assholes.

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                          • M Matt McGuire

                            If Xamarin sponsors Mono, and Mono supports multiple languages (not just C#) why wouldn't Xamarin? or is this something I missed and slated for the future. I've avoided C# thus far (mostly because everyone says I have to use it), and i'ts not that I can't read or write C#, I just don't enjoy it. Note: not trying to start a flame war here, just got a valid question. Everyone has their own personal preferences. :)

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                            I wasn't that impressed with Xamarin when I evaluated it. It seems promising, but has a lot of holes and the documentation and support leaves a lot to be desired. Then there is the absurd pricing. EDIT: For those curious, for the full product they charge $1899 per developer per platform per year. The most recent project where this would have been used involved four platforms and, once we got going, at least three main developers. $22,788 per year isn't chump change for a small company (not indie, bigger than 20 employees and been around longer than 3 years) and for that, I expect stellar support, far fewer bugs and a much more complete SDK.

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                              I agree, I wonder if I'll actually get what I ordered, if I'm holding a javalin? Who am I kidding, it'll still be wrong..

                              "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst

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                              It's McDonald's; even if you get exactly what you asked for, it would still be wrong. You do know their "100% Beef burgers" contain a mixture of cow eyeballs and worm meat[^]? They're only allowed to call them "100% Beef burgers" because the small amount of beef they contain comes from a company called "100% Beef Company". X| Link[^] for the gullible fools who thought that was real! ;P


                              "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

                              "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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                              • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                                It's McDonald's; even if you get exactly what you asked for, it would still be wrong. You do know their "100% Beef burgers" contain a mixture of cow eyeballs and worm meat[^]? They're only allowed to call them "100% Beef burgers" because the small amount of beef they contain comes from a company called "100% Beef Company". X| Link[^] for the gullible fools who thought that was real! ;P


                                "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                                jeron1
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                                Richard Deeming wrote:

                                It's McDonald's; even if you get exactly what you asked for, it would still be wrong.

                                I imagine the same could be said of most fast food places and a lot of non-fast food places, the all mighty dollar wins every time. [edit] DOH! said the gullible fool :-O :laugh:

                                "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst

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                                  What about ... dare I say it ... VB (gasp). Or Fortran.NET .... COBOL.NET. I've mentioned COBOL 3 times this week. I fear my account may get deleted.:~

                                  Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.

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                                  PhilLenoir wrote:

                                  I've mentioned COBOL 3 times this week.

                                  Identification, environment, data, procedure... ah... fond memories. :-D /ravi

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                                  • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                                    It's McDonald's; even if you get exactly what you asked for, it would still be wrong. You do know their "100% Beef burgers" contain a mixture of cow eyeballs and worm meat[^]? They're only allowed to call them "100% Beef burgers" because the small amount of beef they contain comes from a company called "100% Beef Company". X| Link[^] for the gullible fools who thought that was real! ;P


                                    "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                                    Brady Kelly
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                                    Richard Deeming wrote:

                                    You do know their "100% Beef burgers" contain a mixture of cow eyeballs and worm meat[^]?

                                    :zzz: I trust Snopes, and McDonalds, more than the rumour mill you linked to.

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                                    • B Brady Kelly

                                      Richard Deeming wrote:

                                      You do know their "100% Beef burgers" contain a mixture of cow eyeballs and worm meat[^]?

                                      :zzz: I trust Snopes, and McDonalds, more than the rumour mill you linked to.

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                                      Richard Deeming
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                                      Damn, you didn't fall for it. :rolleyes:


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                                      • M Matt McGuire

                                        If Xamarin sponsors Mono, and Mono supports multiple languages (not just C#) why wouldn't Xamarin? or is this something I missed and slated for the future. I've avoided C# thus far (mostly because everyone says I have to use it), and i'ts not that I can't read or write C#, I just don't enjoy it. Note: not trying to start a flame war here, just got a valid question. Everyone has their own personal preferences. :)

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                                        Mladen Jankovic
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                                        Matt McGuire wrote:

                                        Everyone has their own personal preferences.

                                        Well since you insist - Java stinks!

                                        Commodore 64 emulator for Windows Phone

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                                        • J Joe Woodbury

                                          I wasn't that impressed with Xamarin when I evaluated it. It seems promising, but has a lot of holes and the documentation and support leaves a lot to be desired. Then there is the absurd pricing. EDIT: For those curious, for the full product they charge $1899 per developer per platform per year. The most recent project where this would have been used involved four platforms and, once we got going, at least three main developers. $22,788 per year isn't chump change for a small company (not indie, bigger than 20 employees and been around longer than 3 years) and for that, I expect stellar support, far fewer bugs and a much more complete SDK.

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                                          Andy Brummer
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                                          What do you use instead?

                                          Curvature of the Mind now with 3D

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