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Win 10: Is it a Microsoft con job ?

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  • L Lost User

    Add my vote to the rest, plus the votes of two family members.

    Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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    Frank Alviani
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    Nice signature :)

    My long term goal is to live forever. So far, so good...

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    • 9 9082365

      You seem awfully over-exercised about this. Do you have a bet on W10 failing or something? I can see no other reason to be banging on about this when you've already been told that the majority here don't agree with you. It's beginning to look dangerously like the behaviour of creatures that live under bridges and hate goats.

      I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!

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      Johnny J
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      9082365 wrote:

      the behaviour of creatures that live under bridges and hate goats.

      You mean THIS GUY[^]??? :confused:

      Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
      Anonymous
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      • M Maximilien

        You are annoying. There is no "con job" in regards with Windows 10. You are free to use it or not. You don't like it, use something else. I like it and use it, so, in that particular case, our two views cancel each other's.

        I'd rather be phishing!

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        snorkie
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        I gave up caring about my operating system. I spend most of my day in Visual Studio and a web browser. As long as those work, the supporting platform is not much of an issue.

        Hogan

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          23741 wrote:

          I have no need for 10 and ain't going there.

          Fine. Your funeral choice! ;) The difference is that you haven't made two inflammatory posts demanding that the rest of us pour excoriation down upon MS for a 'con'!

          I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!

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          Johnny J
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          How do you know he hasn't??? :confused: ;)

          Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
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          The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
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          I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
          Me, all the time

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            23741 wrote:

            I have no need for 10 and ain't going there.

            Fine. Your funeral choice! ;) The difference is that you haven't made two inflammatory posts demanding that the rest of us pour excoriation down upon MS for a 'con'!

            I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!

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            Kevin Marois
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            Why are you so rigorously defending Win 10? He's entitled to his opinion, and there's more than a few folks here that think Win 10 is a steaming pile of defecation.

            If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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            • K Kevin Marois

              Why are you so rigorously defending Win 10? He's entitled to his opinion, and there's more than a few folks here that think Win 10 is a steaming pile of defecation.

              If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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              Johnny J
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              Goody goody - Just wait a minute, hold the fight until I have fetched the popcorn! :laugh:

              Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
              Anonymous
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              The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
              Winston Churchill, 1944
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              I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
              Me, all the time

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              • J Johnny J

                Goody goody - Just wait a minute, hold the fight until I have fetched the popcorn! :laugh:

                Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
                Anonymous
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                The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
                Winston Churchill, 1944
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                I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
                Me, all the time

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                Kevin Marois
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                There's not going to be a fight. I don't really give 2 shits, and I won't respond any more on this.

                If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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                • K Kevin Marois

                  There's not going to be a fight. I don't really give 2 shits, and I won't respond any more on this.

                  If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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                  Johnny J
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                  You mean I don't get any popcorn? :sigh:

                  Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
                  Anonymous
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                  The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
                  Winston Churchill, 1944
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                  I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
                  Me, all the time

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                  • K Kevin Marois

                    Why are you so rigorously defending Win 10? He's entitled to his opinion, and there's more than a few folks here that think Win 10 is a steaming pile of defecation.

                    If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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                    9082365
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                    I am neither defending nor attacking it. I installed it without a problem of any kind in September and I've had not a single problem since. That's a simple fact. What I won't put up with is this absurd, hyperbolic, unfounded nonsense about it being a 'con', especially in the form of a repost when the first didn't go as well as the poster hoped!

                    I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!

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                      Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols article in Computerworld | Feb 12, 2016 raises some important issues about the Win 10 vs Win 7 and XP. Steve, who has seen the entire evolution of PC OSs since CP/M, concludes "To me, the more interesting question is 'How is Windows 10 doing compared to Windows 7?' What I see is that Windows 10 “seems” to be catching up. Why is that happening? I don’t think it’s because people are eager to move to Windows 10. Everything I’ve seen indicates that Windows 10 has gained traction not because it’s a major improvement over Windows 7 — it’s not — but because Microsoft has been pushing Windows 10 on users" My take away is there's no reason to upgrade from Win 7 to Win 10. His comments regarding Linux Mint 17.3 are also interesting

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                      Richard Deeming
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                      You've been here eight months, and your only contribution to the site is two Lounge threads in two days proclaiming that W10 is a "con job". Keep it up. We enjoy voting trolls off the site. :suss:


                      "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

                      "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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                      • J Johnny J

                        How do you know he hasn't??? :confused: ;)

                        Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
                        Anonymous
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                        The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
                        Winston Churchill, 1944
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                        I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
                        Me, all the time

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                        9082365
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                        I'd have remembered - wouldn't I[^]?

                        I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!

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                          I'd have remembered - wouldn't I[^]?

                          I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!

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                          Johnny J
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                          I was just thinking that it might be a case where 11720681 equals 23741??? As for shows with amnesia, I would much rather go in the opposite direction and watch the extremely wonderful Poppy Montgomery[^] :rolleyes:

                          Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
                          Anonymous
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                          The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
                          Winston Churchill, 1944
                          -----
                          I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
                          Me, all the time

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                          • 9 9082365

                            I am neither defending nor attacking it. I installed it without a problem of any kind in September and I've had not a single problem since. That's a simple fact. What I won't put up with is this absurd, hyperbolic, unfounded nonsense about it being a 'con', especially in the form of a repost when the first didn't go as well as the poster hoped!

                            I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!

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                            realJSOP
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                            9082365 wrote:

                            I installed it without a problem of any kind in September and I've had not a single problem since.

                            Not having turned on the computer since you installed Win 10 doesn't count.

                            ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                              9082365 wrote:

                              I installed it without a problem of any kind in September and I've had not a single problem since.

                              Not having turned on the computer since you installed Win 10 doesn't count.

                              ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                              You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                              When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                              Good Best Answer!

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                                Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols article in Computerworld | Feb 12, 2016 raises some important issues about the Win 10 vs Win 7 and XP. Steve, who has seen the entire evolution of PC OSs since CP/M, concludes "To me, the more interesting question is 'How is Windows 10 doing compared to Windows 7?' What I see is that Windows 10 “seems” to be catching up. Why is that happening? I don’t think it’s because people are eager to move to Windows 10. Everything I’ve seen indicates that Windows 10 has gained traction not because it’s a major improvement over Windows 7 — it’s not — but because Microsoft has been pushing Windows 10 on users" My take away is there's no reason to upgrade from Win 7 to Win 10. His comments regarding Linux Mint 17.3 are also interesting

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                                W Balboos GHB
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                                My next stop, after Win7, is Linux. I'll not make a rant - although it's oh-so-tempting - but put it down to one of the greatest affronts:   you cannot turn off updates, and if your a home user, you cannot even stop them. When MicroScurge will buy me the computer then they can behave like they own it. Until then, I know a nice place I'd shove a splintery broomstick. Which I would then proceed to twist: slowly to the right, then slowly to the left, then back to the right . . .

                                "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

                                "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                • M Member 11720681

                                  Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols article in Computerworld | Feb 12, 2016 raises some important issues about the Win 10 vs Win 7 and XP. Steve, who has seen the entire evolution of PC OSs since CP/M, concludes "To me, the more interesting question is 'How is Windows 10 doing compared to Windows 7?' What I see is that Windows 10 “seems” to be catching up. Why is that happening? I don’t think it’s because people are eager to move to Windows 10. Everything I’ve seen indicates that Windows 10 has gained traction not because it’s a major improvement over Windows 7 — it’s not — but because Microsoft has been pushing Windows 10 on users" My take away is there's no reason to upgrade from Win 7 to Win 10. His comments regarding Linux Mint 17.3 are also interesting

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                                  Lost User
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                                  Remember to consider the source. Vaughn-Nichols is a LONG TIME Linux shill. Pretty sure you can find articles by him every year for the last 10-15 years predicting the "Year of Linux". :rolleyes: Just so you know where I stand: I use W7 at work (it works very well), no plans to go to W10 due to older proprietary apps that will not upgrade. I use all Apple stuff at home. I do have a W7 install and a Linux Mint install at home just for "fun".

                                  There are two types of people in this world: those that pronounce GIF with a soft G, and those who do not deserve to speak words, ever.

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                                    My next stop, after Win7, is Linux. I'll not make a rant - although it's oh-so-tempting - but put it down to one of the greatest affronts:   you cannot turn off updates, and if your a home user, you cannot even stop them. When MicroScurge will buy me the computer then they can behave like they own it. Until then, I know a nice place I'd shove a splintery broomstick. Which I would then proceed to twist: slowly to the right, then slowly to the left, then back to the right . . .

                                    "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                    "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

                                    "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                    Many years ago (at home) I did 12-18 month "hiatus" from Windows XP using Ubuntu Linux. This was right before Windows 7 was released. A couple things were tricky to set-up (Brother printer / scanner, Dell DJ music player, etc...) but once it was working it was pretty solid. I could do nearly everything I needed to but it certainly had its quirks. Sometimes simple things with Windows were quite difficult with Linux. Lack of a decent CAD program hurt a bit... Eventually the Linux quirks drove me to an iMac which still runs wonderfully today. I keep a Linux Mint PC around for fun. I don't do much with it so I'm not sure how many of the quirks remain.

                                    There are two types of people in this world: those that pronounce GIF with a soft G, and those who do not deserve to speak words, ever.

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                                      Many years ago (at home) I did 12-18 month "hiatus" from Windows XP using Ubuntu Linux. This was right before Windows 7 was released. A couple things were tricky to set-up (Brother printer / scanner, Dell DJ music player, etc...) but once it was working it was pretty solid. I could do nearly everything I needed to but it certainly had its quirks. Sometimes simple things with Windows were quite difficult with Linux. Lack of a decent CAD program hurt a bit... Eventually the Linux quirks drove me to an iMac which still runs wonderfully today. I keep a Linux Mint PC around for fun. I don't do much with it so I'm not sure how many of the quirks remain.

                                      There are two types of people in this world: those that pronounce GIF with a soft G, and those who do not deserve to speak words, ever.

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                                      Mike Mullikin wrote:

                                      Many years ago (at home) I did 12-18 month "hiatus" from Windows XP using Ubuntu Linux.

                                      Did the same thing and came to the same conclusion back then, but I just tried Linux Mint out about 2 months ago, and it was blindingly easy to install (on a laptop - notorious for having finicky hardware). So now it's my permanent laptop OS. If Steam had just a few more AAA titles ported to Linux, I could use it as my OS on my desktop. I'll be seriously considering it once Jetbrains goes live with their cross-platform C# IDE.

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                                        23741 wrote:

                                        I have no need for 10 and ain't going there.

                                        Fine. Your funeral choice! ;) The difference is that you haven't made two inflammatory posts demanding that the rest of us pour excoriation down upon MS for a 'con'!

                                        I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!

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                                        Lost User
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                                        I'd rather go back to this than go to 10: http://www.pcjs.org/?mc_cid=4df1c7dbfd&mc_eid=17649817f3[^]

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                                          Mike Mullikin wrote:

                                          Many years ago (at home) I did 12-18 month "hiatus" from Windows XP using Ubuntu Linux.

                                          Did the same thing and came to the same conclusion back then, but I just tried Linux Mint out about 2 months ago, and it was blindingly easy to install (on a laptop - notorious for having finicky hardware). So now it's my permanent laptop OS. If Steam had just a few more AAA titles ported to Linux, I could use it as my OS on my desktop. I'll be seriously considering it once Jetbrains goes live with their cross-platform C# IDE.

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                                          9082365
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                                          Ah! If only Linux was Windows. :zzz:

                                          I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!

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