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The sh*t I complain about It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem
I wrote that when I was a web developer. Now, I am a happy man. :laugh:
The shit I complain about It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem ~! Firewall !~
Afzaal Ahmad Zeeshan wrote:
It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem
The clouds are there, they probably have the wrong CSS (not visible, not in the DOM, transparent, off the page...) ;p I always say "life is a trail of tears and then you die." It usually lifts my spirit, but even my cheery self can't handle HTML/CSS :sigh:
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Regards, Sander
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Sander Rossel wrote:
The next step will be to actually use it and find out that everything does not work as you'd expect :sigh: horizontal/vertical-alignment? Never works. width? Only works when the moon and stars are aligned every 1000 years. line-height? Only on uhhh... That one element... You know? margin? Works when the width of the height is the size of the alignment of the parents child's parent width height size. float? For when you really want to mess up everything.
Excuseme, but you forgot the most salient point - if you can get it to work in just one browser, you can guarantee it won't work in any other. I quit web development just before the death of classic ASP, and have been a happy man ever since. I even write in VB.net, rather than go back to web stuff. :-O :laugh:
Chris C-B wrote:
if you can get it to work in just one browser, you can guarantee it won't work in any other.
How could I forget about that :thumbsup: :laugh:
Chris C-B wrote:
I even write in VB.net
It's just C# with slightly different syntax :D
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Regards, Sander
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Sander Rossel wrote:
JavaScript is a very nice and clean language full of features that are widely supported...
Yes. In Mordor.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.I'm pretty sure those orcs were styled using HTML and CSS :laugh:
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I'm pretty sure those orcs were styled using HTML and CSS :laugh:
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The orcs were just Sauron's first victims
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
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Afzaal Ahmad Zeeshan wrote:
It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem
The clouds are there, they probably have the wrong CSS (not visible, not in the DOM, transparent, off the page...) ;p I always say "life is a trail of tears and then you die." It usually lifts my spirit, but even my cheery self can't handle HTML/CSS :sigh:
Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.
Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra
Regards, Sander
Poor web developer. :laugh: Take my tip: When something like this happen, leave the work and go relax. I watch a movie in that time, listen to music or at best I sleep.
The shit I complain about It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem ~! Firewall !~
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The orcs were just Sauron's first victims
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.CDP1802 wrote:
The orcs were just Sauron's first victims
Gollum was the first :laugh:
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Come on! You are doing it for less then a year!!! I do web for almost 20 years - try IE6 or Netscape Navigator and you will find IE8 a nice guy :laugh:
Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:
try IE6 or Netscape Navigator and you will find IE8 a nice guy
Indeed! :laugh:
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This cup is very appropriate: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41n43bgurLL.jpg[^]
Ha ha ha ha ha!!! I laughed out loud for real with that.
Jeremy Falcon
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HTML and CSS/LESS :mad: Oh, and IE8 :mad: :mad: :mad: Need I say more? :(( :sigh:
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Regards, Sander
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Learn HTML: it's like XML, but with some pre-defined elements such as p, ul, ol, li, input, etc. Learn CSS: # for id's, . for classes, all the other selectors you look up if you ever need them. Congrats, you now know the basics. The next step will be to actually use it and find out that everything does not work as you'd expect :sigh: horizontal/vertical-alignment? Never works. width? Only works when the moon and stars are aligned every 1000 years. line-height? Only on uhhh... That one element... You know? margin? Works when the width of the height is the size of the alignment of the parents child's parent width height size. float? For when you really want to mess up everything. I could go on, but there's only one conclusion I can make. HTML/CSS is the worst piece of crap 'technology' that's currently known to men (followed closely by Crystal Reports). It's not about learning it, because the idea is simple. It's about using it a lot, finding out all the quirks and inconsistencies, remembering them, and then knowing how to solve something the next time (but you probably forgot already and need to try out different combinations again). That's the true nature of HTML/CSS :sigh:
Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.
Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra
Regards, Sander
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Learn HTML: it's like XML, but with some pre-defined elements such as p, ul, ol, li, input, etc. Learn CSS: # for id's, . for classes, all the other selectors you look up if you ever need them. Congrats, you now know the basics. The next step will be to actually use it and find out that everything does not work as you'd expect :sigh: horizontal/vertical-alignment? Never works. width? Only works when the moon and stars are aligned every 1000 years. line-height? Only on uhhh... That one element... You know? margin? Works when the width of the height is the size of the alignment of the parents child's parent width height size. float? For when you really want to mess up everything. I could go on, but there's only one conclusion I can make. HTML/CSS is the worst piece of crap 'technology' that's currently known to men (followed closely by Crystal Reports). It's not about learning it, because the idea is simple. It's about using it a lot, finding out all the quirks and inconsistencies, remembering them, and then knowing how to solve something the next time (but you probably forgot already and need to try out different combinations again). That's the true nature of HTML/CSS :sigh:
Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.
Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra
Regards, Sander
I've found that HTML/CSS works a Hell of a lot better if you take out the CSS.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Dave Kreskowiak wrote:
You actually said too much. You could have stopped at just "IE8", or even "IE", and we all would have known your plight.
LMAO! Very well said! But wait.. IE6 was worst :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Vincent Maverick Durano wrote:
IE6
HOW DARE YOU USE SUCH FOUL LANGUAGE IN MY PRESENCE. :-D
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Vincent Maverick Durano wrote:
IE6
HOW DARE YOU USE SUCH FOUL LANGUAGE IN MY PRESENCE. :-D
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Dave KreskowiakDave Kreskowiak wrote:
HOW DARE YOU USE SUCH FOUL LANGUAGE IN MY PRESENCE. :-D
lol. My deepest apology your highness. But it's not even a language. It's a JOKE. IE6 was a JOKE! :laugh: :laugh:
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IE8, the new IE6.
Jeremy Falcon
And Edge is the new IE :D
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Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra
Regards, Sander
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HTML and CSS/LESS :mad: Oh, and IE8 :mad: :mad: :mad: Need I say more? :(( :sigh:
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Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra
Regards, Sander
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YOU can help phasing out IE8! If everyone stops supporting it, web users will be more inclined not to use a browser which makes all web sites look broken.
I guess if I stop supporting IE8 my employer will stop supporting my bank account... :sigh:
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Regards, Sander
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Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:
You are doing it for less then a year
Little longer than that. And I miss the good old WinForm days. WinForms, for UI development that just works :)
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Amen brother!
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HTML and CSS/LESS :mad: Oh, and IE8 :mad: :mad: :mad: Need I say more? :(( :sigh:
Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.
Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra
Regards, Sander
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Learn HTML: it's like XML, but with some pre-defined elements such as p, ul, ol, li, input, etc. Learn CSS: # for id's, . for classes, all the other selectors you look up if you ever need them. Congrats, you now know the basics. The next step will be to actually use it and find out that everything does not work as you'd expect :sigh: horizontal/vertical-alignment? Never works. width? Only works when the moon and stars are aligned every 1000 years. line-height? Only on uhhh... That one element... You know? margin? Works when the width of the height is the size of the alignment of the parents child's parent width height size. float? For when you really want to mess up everything. I could go on, but there's only one conclusion I can make. HTML/CSS is the worst piece of crap 'technology' that's currently known to men (followed closely by Crystal Reports). It's not about learning it, because the idea is simple. It's about using it a lot, finding out all the quirks and inconsistencies, remembering them, and then knowing how to solve something the next time (but you probably forgot already and need to try out different combinations again). That's the true nature of HTML/CSS :sigh:
Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.
Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra
Regards, Sander
I feel your pain. I am going through the exact same learning curve myself, right now.:mad: It IS getting better, the more that I work at it. But I will laugh long and hard in the face of any of the fools that complain about VB or C#. HTML, CSS, Java (script or otherwise), RAD tools they are NOT, Consistent they are really NOT. Check out Bootstrap, it has helped me tremendously.
ChickenLegWilly A giraffe is a horse designed by a committee. A camel is a horse designed and developed using Agile...
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Learn HTML: it's like XML, but with some pre-defined elements such as p, ul, ol, li, input, etc. Learn CSS: # for id's, . for classes, all the other selectors you look up if you ever need them. Congrats, you now know the basics. The next step will be to actually use it and find out that everything does not work as you'd expect :sigh: horizontal/vertical-alignment? Never works. width? Only works when the moon and stars are aligned every 1000 years. line-height? Only on uhhh... That one element... You know? margin? Works when the width of the height is the size of the alignment of the parents child's parent width height size. float? For when you really want to mess up everything. I could go on, but there's only one conclusion I can make. HTML/CSS is the worst piece of crap 'technology' that's currently known to men (followed closely by Crystal Reports). It's not about learning it, because the idea is simple. It's about using it a lot, finding out all the quirks and inconsistencies, remembering them, and then knowing how to solve something the next time (but you probably forgot already and need to try out different combinations again). That's the true nature of HTML/CSS :sigh:
Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.
Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra
Regards, Sander
I feel your pain. CSS can be trickier than it might seem. For things like horizontal and vertical alignment you need to take into account what containers the styled elements are placed inside of. That will influence what style rule you can use or what style rule combinations you need to use in order to make the alignment work. The sucky part about it for me was that until I was given an explanation, I probably wouldn't have been able to figure out the dependencies by myself or by referencing many of the popular web standards tutorials out on the web.
