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  • D Dave Kreskowiak

    It's also known as the Conway Sequence, Look and Say Sequence, and probably some others. It's rather simple. Start with a 1 and then describe what you see for the next iteration. So, starting at 1, the next number is one 1 (11), the next is two 1 (21), then one 2 one 1 (1211), and so on:

    1
    11
    21
    1211
    111221
    312211

    The question to answer is what's the length in digits of the 100th number in the chain, starting with "1" as the first? The first six numbers have been given above. You could write it out by hand, but I wouldn't recommend it, and as developers, that's not what we do. The seemingly simple challenge is to write the code to come up with the answer. The only hint you get is the 50th number is 894,810 digits long. Oh, and don't bother Googling for code. Those examples will only get you so far and definitely won't get you to the answer.

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    Since the only requirement was to determine the length, it is not necessary to store the full string. A simple 100 level recursion that, at each level, returns the next digit in sequence suffices - it takes a long time to run, but does not need huge amounts of space. At each level above the first it is only necessary to store at most two digits - the digit of which you have just counted the repetitions, and the digit that broke the sequence. Each invocation at any level alternates between returning the count and returning the counted digit.

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      After a bit more fiddling:

      Test length 48 th : 526646 526,646
      Test length 49 th : 686646 686,646
      Test length 50 th : 894810 894,810
      51st length : 1,166,642
      52nd length : 1,521,070
      53rd length : 1,983,164
      54th length : 2,585,639
      55th length : 3,371,142
      56th length : 4,395,278
      57th length : 5,730,540
      58th length : 7,471,449
      59th length : 9,741,236
      60th length : 12,700,573
      61st length : 16,558,941
      62nd length : 21,589,461
      63rd length : 28,148,228
      64th length : 36,699,513
      65th length : 47,848,635
      66th length : 62,384,802
      67th length : 81,336,981
      68th length : 106,046,733
      69th length : 138,263,181
      70th length : 180,266,818
      71st length : 235,030,941
      72nd length : 306,432,122
      73rd length : 399,524,610
      74th length : 520,898,113
      75th length : 679,144,257
      76th length : 885,464,758
      77th length : 1,154,464,356
      78th length : 1,505,184,637
      79th length : 1,962,451,918
      80th length : 2,558,634,627
      81st length : 3,335,934,550
      82nd length : 4,349,374,155
      83rd length : 5,670,691,453
      84th length : 7,393,418,089
      85th length : 9,639,500,137
      86th length : 12,567,930,256
      87th length : 16,386,002,249
      88th length : 21,363,984,700
      89th length : 27,854,252,387
      90th length : 36,316,229,718
      91st length : 47,348,911,849
      92nd length : 61,733,265,560
      93rd length : 80,487,511,283
      94th length : 104,939,199,534
      95th length : 136,819,183,789
      96th length : 178,384,141,824
      97th length : 232,576,318,416
      98th length : 303,231,797,036
      99th length : 395,352,043,407
      100th length : 515,457,942,582

      Regards , R

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      Wrong again!

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      • T Tony Riddiough

        Since the only requirement was to determine the length, it is not necessary to store the full string. A simple 100 level recursion that, at each level, returns the next digit in sequence suffices - it takes a long time to run, but does not need huge amounts of space. At each level above the first it is only necessary to store at most two digits - the digit of which you have just counted the repetitions, and the digit that broke the sequence. Each invocation at any level alternates between returning the count and returning the counted digit.

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        I didn't follow that.

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        • D Dave Kreskowiak

          It's also known as the Conway Sequence, Look and Say Sequence, and probably some others. It's rather simple. Start with a 1 and then describe what you see for the next iteration. So, starting at 1, the next number is one 1 (11), the next is two 1 (21), then one 2 one 1 (1211), and so on:

          1
          11
          21
          1211
          111221
          312211

          The question to answer is what's the length in digits of the 100th number in the chain, starting with "1" as the first? The first six numbers have been given above. You could write it out by hand, but I wouldn't recommend it, and as developers, that's not what we do. The seemingly simple challenge is to write the code to come up with the answer. The only hint you get is the 50th number is 894,810 digits long. Oh, and don't bother Googling for code. Those examples will only get you so far and definitely won't get you to the answer.

          System.ItDidntWorkException: Something didn't work as expected. C# - How to debug code[^]. Seriously, go read these articles.
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          The answer for the length of the 100th number is 511,247,092,564 digits. The length escalates frighteningly quickly. The LENGTH of the 3000th number in the chain is, get this, 4029857719515768641307384677908679928310793769651641917926155107836565892187598804862177357001771122238068645667821323998368650130801806344030981271295995422208436642014734696538407619447946889047668430308242548524802874469136450965097114152481264391293269162985708430576259447637028591596189605329702198409448541645531801518246316682171504624370 digits long. That's not the number. That's how long it is in digits! That's more digits than there are the estimated number of atoms in the observable universe, by many orders of magnitude!

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            level 1 size = 1
            level 2 size = 2
            level 3 size = 2
            level 4 size = 4
            level 5 size = 6
            level 6 size = 6
            level 7 size = 8
            level 8 size = 10
            level 9 size = 14
            level 10 size = 20
            level 11 size = 26
            level 12 size = 34
            level 13 size = 46
            level 14 size = 62
            level 15 size = 78
            level 16 size = 102
            level 17 size = 134
            level 18 size = 176
            level 19 size = 226
            level 20 size = 302
            level 21 size = 408
            level 22 size = 528
            level 23 size = 678
            level 24 size = 904
            level 25 size = 1182
            level 26 size = 1540
            level 27 size = 2012
            level 28 size = 2606
            level 29 size = 3410
            level 30 size = 4462
            level 31 size = 5808
            level 32 size = 7586
            level 33 size = 9898
            level 34 size = 12884
            level 35 size = 16774
            level 36 size = 21890
            level 37 size = 28528
            level 38 size = 37158
            level 39 size = 48410
            level 40 size = 63138
            level 41 size = 82350
            level 42 size = 107312
            level 43 size = 139984
            level 44 size = 182376
            level 45 size = 237746
            level 46 size = 310036
            level 47 size = 403966
            level 48 size = 526646
            level 49 size = 686646
            level 50 size = 894810
            level 51 size = 1166642
            level 52 size = 1520986
            level 53 size = 1982710
            level 54 size = 2584304
            level 55 size = 3369156
            level 56 size = 4391702
            level 57 size = 5724486
            level 58 size = 7462860
            level 59 size = 9727930
            level 60 size = 12680852
            level 61 size = 16530884
            level 62 size = 21549544
            level 63 size = 28091184
            level 64 size = 36619162
            level 65 size = 47736936
            level 66 size = 62226614
            level 67 size = 81117366
            level 68 size = 105745224
            level 69 size = 137842560
            level 70 size = 179691598
            level 71 size = 234241786
            level 72 size = 305351794
            level 73 size = 398049970
            level 74 size = 518891358
            level 75 size = 676414798
            level 76 size = 881752750
            level 77 size = 1149440192
            level 78 size = 1498380104
            level 79 size = 1953245418
            level 80 size = 2546222700
            level 81 size = 3319186080
            level 82 size = 4326816254
            level 83 size = 5640348764
            level 84 size = 7352630884
            level 85 size = 9584715106
            level 86 size = 12494412020
            level 87 size = 16287462624
            level 88 size = 21231903676
            level 89 size = 27677468012
            level 90 size = 36079732206
            level 91 size = 47032657188
            level 92 size = 61310766500
            level 93 size = 79923316046
            level 94 size = 104186199146
            level 95 size = 135814773100
            level 96 size = 177045063068
            level 97 size = 230791944956
            level 98 size = 300854953626
            level 99 size = 392187941864
            level 100 size = 511247092564
            finished computation at Fri Dec 1 16:48:41 2017
            elapsed time: 7205.75secs

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            Congratulations! You're the first to post the correct answer. Extra credit: how did you do it in 2 hours?

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            • D Dave Kreskowiak

              Congratulations! You're the first to post the correct answer. Extra credit: how did you do it in 2 hours?

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              Since we only need to compute the length, storing the entire string isn't necessary. Furthermore, the computation can be done recursively and requires very little code/storage for each level of recursion. The memory footprint while running was about 16k IIRC. I removed some extraneous code and got the runtime at l=100 to about 1.5 hours. Probably could optimize it even more, but I don't see the point. I'd post code here but it seems to be discouraged.

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                Since we only need to compute the length, storing the entire string isn't necessary. Furthermore, the computation can be done recursively and requires very little code/storage for each level of recursion. The memory footprint while running was about 16k IIRC. I removed some extraneous code and got the runtime at l=100 to about 1.5 hours. Probably could optimize it even more, but I don't see the point. I'd post code here but it seems to be discouraged.

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                It would be interesting to see. Code has been an exception in the past for challenges like this.

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                • D Dave Kreskowiak

                  It would be interesting to see. Code has been an exception in the past for challenges like this.

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                  OK, here it is... #include #include #include using namespace std; #define maxLevel 100 static uint32_t currentLevel = 0; static chrono::time_point start, timeFinished; class LevelProcessor { public: LevelProcessor() : currentOccurrence(0), currentPrefix(0), myLevel(currentLevel++), totalSize(0) { } void ProcessLevel(uint32_t prefix); void FinishLevel(); uint32_t currentOccurrence; uint32_t currentPrefix; const uint32_t myLevel; uint64_t totalSize; }; static LevelProcessor processors[maxLevel]; void LevelProcessor::ProcessLevel(uint32_t prefix) { if (prefix == currentPrefix) { ++currentOccurrence; return; } if (currentOccurrence != 0) { if (myLevel < maxLevel - 1) { processors[myLevel + 1].ProcessLevel(currentOccurrence); processors[myLevel + 1].ProcessLevel(currentPrefix); } ++totalSize; } currentPrefix = prefix; currentOccurrence = 1; } void LevelProcessor::FinishLevel() { ++totalSize; if (myLevel < maxLevel - 1) { processors[myLevel + 1].ProcessLevel(currentOccurrence); processors[myLevel + 1].ProcessLevel(currentPrefix); } chrono::time_point timeFinished = chrono::system_clock::now(); chrono::duration elapsed_seconds = timeFinished - start; time_t end_time = chrono::system_clock::to_time_t(timeFinished); cout << "level " << myLevel + 1 << " is done, size = " << totalSize * 2 << " at " << "elapsed time: " << elapsed_seconds.count() << "secs" << endl; if (myLevel < maxLevel - 1) processors[myLevel + 1].FinishLevel(); } int main() { start = chrono::system_clock::now(); processors[1].ProcessLevel(1); processors[1].FinishLevel(); timeFinished = chrono::system_clock::now(); chrono::duration elapsed_seconds = timeFinished - start; time_t end_time = chrono::system_clock::to_time_t(timeFinished); cout << "finished computation at " << ctime(&end_time) << "elapsed time: " << elapsed_seconds.count() << "secs" << endl; } So much for my indenting, oh well.

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                    OK, here it is... #include #include #include using namespace std; #define maxLevel 100 static uint32_t currentLevel = 0; static chrono::time_point start, timeFinished; class LevelProcessor { public: LevelProcessor() : currentOccurrence(0), currentPrefix(0), myLevel(currentLevel++), totalSize(0) { } void ProcessLevel(uint32_t prefix); void FinishLevel(); uint32_t currentOccurrence; uint32_t currentPrefix; const uint32_t myLevel; uint64_t totalSize; }; static LevelProcessor processors[maxLevel]; void LevelProcessor::ProcessLevel(uint32_t prefix) { if (prefix == currentPrefix) { ++currentOccurrence; return; } if (currentOccurrence != 0) { if (myLevel < maxLevel - 1) { processors[myLevel + 1].ProcessLevel(currentOccurrence); processors[myLevel + 1].ProcessLevel(currentPrefix); } ++totalSize; } currentPrefix = prefix; currentOccurrence = 1; } void LevelProcessor::FinishLevel() { ++totalSize; if (myLevel < maxLevel - 1) { processors[myLevel + 1].ProcessLevel(currentOccurrence); processors[myLevel + 1].ProcessLevel(currentPrefix); } chrono::time_point timeFinished = chrono::system_clock::now(); chrono::duration elapsed_seconds = timeFinished - start; time_t end_time = chrono::system_clock::to_time_t(timeFinished); cout << "level " << myLevel + 1 << " is done, size = " << totalSize * 2 << " at " << "elapsed time: " << elapsed_seconds.count() << "secs" << endl; if (myLevel < maxLevel - 1) processors[myLevel + 1].FinishLevel(); } int main() { start = chrono::system_clock::now(); processors[1].ProcessLevel(1); processors[1].FinishLevel(); timeFinished = chrono::system_clock::now(); chrono::duration elapsed_seconds = timeFinished - start; time_t end_time = chrono::system_clock::to_time_t(timeFinished); cout << "finished computation at " << ctime(&end_time) << "elapsed time: " << elapsed_seconds.count() << "secs" << endl; } So much for my indenting, oh well.

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                    Interesting. When I originally did the research into this thing I saw the pattern developing in the brute force results but I was never able to get any code to work that looked for and tracked the pattern. I'll have to dig into this later to see exactly how it works and where I made my mistakes. I still have a couple of the broken projects from way back then. Thanks for sharing!

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                      I didn't follow that.

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                      The quick and dirty code I wrote was

                      #include
                      #include

                      class s {
                      private:
                      char indx;
                      char ondx;
                      char v[10];
                      public:
                      bool done;
                      unsigned long long count;
                      s(void) {
                      indx = '\0';
                      ondx = '\0';
                      done = false;
                      count= 0UL;
                      }
                      void put (char c) {
                      v[indx++] = c;
                      indx = indx % 10;
                      }
                      char get (void) {
                      char c = v[ondx++];
                      ondx = ondx %10;
                      return c;
                      }
                      char peek (void) {
                      return v[ondx];
                      }
                      bool isEmpty (void) {
                      return indx == ondx;
                      }
                      };

                      s context[100];

                      // the two functions "nextItem" and "doCount" call each other recursively.

                      bool nextItem (char& c, int level);

                      // count number of consecutive instances of v from level below
                      // return count as a character in 'c'; save v with msb set. and
                      // character which terminated count in context.
                      void doCount (char& c, char v, int level) {
                      bool r = false;
                      s& x = context[level];
                      c = '1';
                      x.put (v + 0X80);
                      while (!x.done) {
                      char t;
                      x.done = nextItem (t, level - 1);
                      if (t == v) {
                      c++;
                      }
                      else {
                      // count is complete so we need to put the terminating value
                      // in the buffer, value we are counting is already there
                      x.put (t);
                      break;
                      }
                      }
                      }

                      // return in 'c' the next character from the specified level
                      // signal done if that character is the last.
                      // there are two special cases:
                      // 1) level = 0, the single character '1' is returned and done is signalled
                      // 2) There are no characters held in the context (this must be the first entry)
                      // Otherwise there are one or two characters in the context. If the next character
                      // held in the context ha the msb set, the count has already been returned so the
                      // character should be returned. Otherwise the character is the terminating character
                      // from the last count and more repetitions (if any) must be counted, after which the
                      // count is returned. When the lower level has signalled done, then when the last
                      // character is returned also signal done.
                      // Count the number of characters returned and when the last character is returned and
                      // done s signalled, report the level and the total.

                      bool nextItem (char& c, int level) {
                      s& x = context[level];
                      bool r = false;
                      if (!x.isEmpty()) {
                      // more ready to output
                      char v = x.get();
                      c = v & 0X7F;
                      if (v & 0X80) {
                      r = x.isEmpty();
                      }
                      else {
                      // this is the next value and we need to count any more
                      doCount (c, v, level);
                      }
                      }
                      else if (level == 0) {
                      // at the lowest level the seed is a single '1'
                      c

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                      • D Dave Kreskowiak

                        Interesting. When I originally did the research into this thing I saw the pattern developing in the brute force results but I was never able to get any code to work that looked for and tracked the pattern. I'll have to dig into this later to see exactly how it works and where I made my mistakes. I still have a couple of the broken projects from way back then. Thanks for sharing!

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                        I wish I could say that this is exploiting some underlying pattern, but it's really just a more efficient brute force implementation. It's more like a depth-first tree traversal - you never have to compute and store the entire string at one level before working on the next.

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                          I wish I could say that this is exploiting some underlying pattern, but it's really just a more efficient brute force implementation. It's more like a depth-first tree traversal - you never have to compute and store the entire string at one level before working on the next.

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                          That's what I thought. When I originally started looking at this, I found the storage requirements for a single iteration were going to jump exponentially. I was looking for a method to do this, something like what you've done, but couldn't get it to work.

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                            I wish I could say that this is exploiting some underlying pattern, but it's really just a more efficient brute force implementation. It's more like a depth-first tree traversal - you never have to compute and store the entire string at one level before working on the next.

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                            Wow, I see where my previous mistakes were compared to yours. I got a couple of hints from your code that got my old code working, and what I was misinterpreting. Your code, on my machine, does the 100 numbers in an hour and ten minutes. FAR faster than my brute force runs that store every iteration on disk in a byte-compressed format and takes just under 6 hours to run. Thanks for the help!

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                              The answer for the length of the 100th number is 511,247,092,564 digits. The length escalates frighteningly quickly. The LENGTH of the 3000th number in the chain is, get this, 4029857719515768641307384677908679928310793769651641917926155107836565892187598804862177357001771122238068645667821323998368650130801806344030981271295995422208436642014734696538407619447946889047668430308242548524802874469136450965097114152481264391293269162985708430576259447637028591596189605329702198409448541645531801518246316682171504624370 digits long. That's not the number. That's how long it is in digits! That's more digits than there are the estimated number of atoms in the observable universe, by many orders of magnitude!

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                              I've left my totally brute-force string-based solution running for 4 days and it's only on the 64th iteration having got up to 50 within an hour - so, yeah, that rather underlines how it can never really be achieved in reasonable time without an awful lot more finesse. I really enjoyed this as a coding challenge even though I didn't get remotely close to cracking it. A simple looking task on the surface but one that soon reveals itself to be monumentally problematic.

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                                Wow, I see where my previous mistakes were compared to yours. I got a couple of hints from your code that got my old code working, and what I was misinterpreting. Your code, on my machine, does the 100 numbers in an hour and ten minutes. FAR faster than my brute force runs that store every iteration on disk in a byte-compressed format and takes just under 6 hours to run. Thanks for the help!

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                                No problem. It was an interesting challenge! FWIW, I was looking further at the code and at how to optimize it. One interesting thing I found is that if the order of ProcessLevel() calls is reversed we get the same sequences but reversed! This means that the initial prefix for each level is always 1 and can be initialized as such, which then means the check for currentOccurrence != 0 in ProcessLevel() can be removed. Doesn't seem like much, but when that function is executed trillions of times it makes a noticeable difference. You must have a fast machine, 100 takes quite a bit longer for me.

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                                  No problem. It was an interesting challenge! FWIW, I was looking further at the code and at how to optimize it. One interesting thing I found is that if the order of ProcessLevel() calls is reversed we get the same sequences but reversed! This means that the initial prefix for each level is always 1 and can be initialized as such, which then means the check for currentOccurrence != 0 in ProcessLevel() can be removed. Doesn't seem like much, but when that function is executed trillions of times it makes a noticeable difference. You must have a fast machine, 100 takes quite a bit longer for me.

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                                  Interesting. I'll have to play around with that some more. I'm wondering how long it would take to get to 200, let alone 3,000. And how to hang onto numbers that big. It seems a BigInt class would be needed but performance may suffer greatly. I just built a new machine about 9 months ago, overclocked and water cooled of course. :-D

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                                    Interesting. I'll have to play around with that some more. I'm wondering how long it would take to get to 200, let alone 3,000. And how to hang onto numbers that big. It seems a BigInt class would be needed but performance may suffer greatly. I just built a new machine about 9 months ago, overclocked and water cooled of course. :-D

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                                    My runtimes are about 3500 sec at l=100 and about 50000 sec at l=110 for an increase of about 14.3x. So from l=100 to l=200 is 14.3 ^ 10 x the time, or 347,636,939,799 hours. ~39 million years, give or take :) l=3000? heh. I think that's a pretty good definition of "forever".

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                                      It's also known as the Conway Sequence, Look and Say Sequence, and probably some others. It's rather simple. Start with a 1 and then describe what you see for the next iteration. So, starting at 1, the next number is one 1 (11), the next is two 1 (21), then one 2 one 1 (1211), and so on:

                                      1
                                      11
                                      21
                                      1211
                                      111221
                                      312211

                                      The question to answer is what's the length in digits of the 100th number in the chain, starting with "1" as the first? The first six numbers have been given above. You could write it out by hand, but I wouldn't recommend it, and as developers, that's not what we do. The seemingly simple challenge is to write the code to come up with the answer. The only hint you get is the 50th number is 894,810 digits long. Oh, and don't bother Googling for code. Those examples will only get you so far and definitely won't get you to the answer.

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                                      That's quite a number. Got me spending electricity for almost 21h ;)

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                                        The answer for the length of the 100th number is 511,247,092,564 digits. The length escalates frighteningly quickly. The LENGTH of the 3000th number in the chain is, get this, 4029857719515768641307384677908679928310793769651641917926155107836565892187598804862177357001771122238068645667821323998368650130801806344030981271295995422208436642014734696538407619447946889047668430308242548524802874469136450965097114152481264391293269162985708430576259447637028591596189605329702198409448541645531801518246316682171504624370 digits long. That's not the number. That's how long it is in digits! That's more digits than there are the estimated number of atoms in the observable universe, by many orders of magnitude!

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                                        I got the same value for the 100th but it took me almost 21h with iterators. Did you actually calculate the 3000th????

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                                          I got the same value for the 100th but it took me almost 21h with iterators. Did you actually calculate the 3000th????

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                                          No, I didn't. I don't have an algorithm to go that high in my lifetime. At least not yet. I'm still working on the problem in some spare time. There is only a single place on the entire 'net where that number is listed, here[^]. Seems to be down right now though.

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