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  • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

    When I first started programming I read a lot of articles about a lot of programming subjects. I've bookmarked many many articles over the years about OOP, design patterns, architecture, databases, functional programming, algorithms... And I just went through the list and deleted almost all of them. First and foremost because a lot of them are outdated or are no longer relevant for me (like WinForms articles or "getting started with x" from 2010). But also because I now know a lot about the subjects those articles talk about, like SOLID and SQL injection. It's kind of funny to realize I once thought it necessary to bookmark an article about resource files. It's awesome that I'm having the same job as 8 years ago yet I do completely different things and I'm still learning weekly.

    Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Continuous Integration, Delivery, and Deployment arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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    Marc Clifton
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    I bookmarked your post because of its timeless wisdom. :-D

    Latest Article - Slack-Chatting with you rPi Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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      I was born in 1945. I spent this morning learning LINQ, I am currently learning some very basic Hebrew, and have a list of other things that I still want to learn.

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      Sander Rossel
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      Richard MacCutchan wrote:

      I am currently learning some very basic Hebrew

      מגניב!

      Richard MacCutchan wrote:

      I spent this morning learning LINQ

      I know programmers who're not retired and who still refuse to properly learn and apply LINQ (or SQL and even .NET in general) :) Perhaps it's not so much an age thing, but a mentality thing. And not many people like learning at all when they can spend their evenings in front of the television :sigh: My parents both picked up studies at the Open University and they're well in their 50's and 60's.

      Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Continuous Integration, Delivery, and Deployment arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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        I bookmarked your post because of its timeless wisdom. :-D

        Latest Article - Slack-Chatting with you rPi Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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        Sander Rossel
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        I get that a lot ;p

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        • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

          Richard MacCutchan wrote:

          I am currently learning some very basic Hebrew

          מגניב!

          Richard MacCutchan wrote:

          I spent this morning learning LINQ

          I know programmers who're not retired and who still refuse to properly learn and apply LINQ (or SQL and even .NET in general) :) Perhaps it's not so much an age thing, but a mentality thing. And not many people like learning at all when they can spend their evenings in front of the television :sigh: My parents both picked up studies at the Open University and they're well in their 50's and 60's.

          Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Continuous Integration, Delivery, and Deployment arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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          Sander Rossel wrote:

          well in their 50's and 60's.

          My eldest son will be 50 in June. :omg:

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            Sander Rossel wrote:

            well in their 50's and 60's.

            My eldest son will be 50 in June. :omg:

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            Mike Winiberg
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            I'm in my 60s and I'm still programming and learning new stuff every day. Once I no longer find that interesting I shall stop!

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              I'm in my 60s and I'm still programming and learning new stuff every day. Once I no longer find that interesting I shall stop!

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              You youngsters. ;P

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                You youngsters. ;P

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                Sander Rossel
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                You dinosaurs. ;p

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                • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                  You dinosaurs. ;p

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                  Growl, screech, munch. ;)

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                    I'm in my 60s and I'm still programming and learning new stuff every day. Once I no longer find that interesting I shall stop!

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                    Jim_Snyder
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                    Somewhat the same here ... in my 60's, but learning new things about once a week. The rate has slowed as my employer is doing away with custom code. :(

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                    • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                      In my experience a lot of people get too old to want to learn though ;)

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                      M chael Luna
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                      Age has nothing to do with it. I know a lot of younger people who don't want to learn.

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                        Growl, screech, munch. ;)

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                        M chael Luna
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                        Damn kids!!!, get off my lawn

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                          Damn kids!!!, get off my lawn

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                          And take your damn tanks with you!

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                          • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                            kmoorevs wrote:

                            My resources were mostly 1000+ page books

                            1000+ pages :omg: I got a few books in my early days, mostly like 300 to 400 pages, but nowadays I just read the docs of whatever I'm trying to learn.

                            kmoorevs wrote:

                            the MSDN CDs that came every quarter

                            I remember those, my dad always got them.

                            kmoorevs wrote:

                            I hardly ever bookmark anything anymore since most things are available via Google in mere seconds

                            Me neither for the same reason.

                            kmoorevs wrote:

                            The application that I started working on back in '99 is still going strong

                            Did you manage to keep the used technologies up-to-date? I've always found that to be the hardest part of programming... If you can't, working on such an old application could be a nightmare :omg: In my experience there's never time or money to upgrade or replace outdated technologies :sigh:

                            Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Continuous Integration, Delivery, and Deployment arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                            Sander Rossel wrote:

                            Did you manage to keep the used technologies up-to-date?

                            Good question. The answer is no...well sort of...it's a work in progress but will take a considerable amount of 'slack' time which there never seems to be enough of. I figure I've got another 5 years before MS stops including the VB6 runtimes and another few years before my customers migrate to that future OS. There's still time! :) I keep waiting to be able to afford a junior developer to pawn it off on. :laugh:

                            Sander Rossel wrote:

                            If you can't, working on such an old application could be a nightmare :OMG:

                            Actually, it's not bad at all...everything still works fine under Win10. It does get aggravating that the scroll wheel doesn't work there though and intellisense is not as intelligent.

                            "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                              You dinosaurs. ;p

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                              Yes, how many of us remember programming on and for those old mainframes?

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                                Sander Rossel wrote:

                                Did you manage to keep the used technologies up-to-date?

                                Good question. The answer is no...well sort of...it's a work in progress but will take a considerable amount of 'slack' time which there never seems to be enough of. I figure I've got another 5 years before MS stops including the VB6 runtimes and another few years before my customers migrate to that future OS. There's still time! :) I keep waiting to be able to afford a junior developer to pawn it off on. :laugh:

                                Sander Rossel wrote:

                                If you can't, working on such an old application could be a nightmare :OMG:

                                Actually, it's not bad at all...everything still works fine under Win10. It does get aggravating that the scroll wheel doesn't work there though and intellisense is not as intelligent.

                                "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                                kmoorevs wrote:

                                the VB6 runtimes

                                kmoorevs wrote:

                                it's not bad at all

                                Sounds like a bad case of the Stockholm Syndrome :wtf: :omg:

                                Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Continuous Integration, Delivery, and Deployment arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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