Could you be a bit more specific ? What is the thing you are trying to accomplish ? I know this question sounds silly, but I, at least, have no clue about your goals. For example: 1. News ? What news ? Are we talking about a MDI child window ? What is it that you want to intercept ? A Windows message ? 2. A sub-window as desktop in MDI windows... Eh ? Are you talking about the MDI application mainframe window (toolbars, menus), or about the Desktop(tm) window (Windows Desktop), or something else ? What is this '0x086' you are talking about ? If you clarify these issues and perhaps post some code along, we might be able to help you much better :) -Antti Keskinen ---------------------------------------------- The definition of impossible is strictly dependant on what we think is possible.