Thanks so much jkirkerx, that's very cool... I will indeed take you up on that; I've already signed an NDA but I think I can make it generic enough for a double-check without violating it. Thanks jkirkerx! clientSurfer ... having only that moment finished a vigorous game of Wiff-Waff and eaten a tartiflet. - Henry Minute  I'm still looking (eagerly) for wisdom in terms of best practices in OO design; and I doubt I'll ever quit looking. - BillWoodruff  Programming is a race between programmers trying to build bigger and better idiot proof programs, and the universe trying to build bigger and better idiots, so far... the universe is winning. - gavindon

BillWoodruff wrote: I can't claim to be at a "guru level" on choosing whether to use "standard," or virtual, or abstract classes, and using your choice of those with interface definitions. Wow that's actually saying a lot and is somehow comforting to me considering your impressive background and experience Bill! :) BillWoodruff wrote: It took me a long time to "grok" that on one level using interfaces was a contract, a compile-time enforced promise that any object that inherited from the interface implemented every specification in the interface ... and, that interfaces also functioned as a way to establish a kind of "semantic viewport" on objects, so you could expose an object instance "filtered" in a carefully controlled way by passing it cast to the interface. ... never thought about the "semantic viewport" offered by interfaces; more appreciated food for thought you have provided me here... :cool: BillWoodruff wrote: I'm still looking (eagerly) for wisdom in terms of best practices in OO design; and I doubt I'll ever quit looking. Neat quote and well said, Bill - an encouraging thought that promises to inspire me today in my grok quest (hmm "Grok Quest" - that almost sounds like a good name for a bad video game, yes?) :-D Thanks Man, Cheers! "... having only that moment finished a vigorous game of Wiff-Waff and eaten a tartiflet." - Henry Minute  "Let's face it, after Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!" - gavindon  "I'm still looking (eagerly) for wisdom in terms of best practices in OO design; and I doubt I'll ever quit looking." - BillWoodruff  "Programming is a race between programmers trying to build bigger and better idiot proof programs, and the universe trying to build bigger and better idiots, so far... the universe is winning." - gavindon

Pualee wrote: Oh, that is when you get mad and knock them over? Right? :laugh: precisely! If I could only get my Q/A team to think outside of the box! bwahhh :doh: "... having only that moment finished a vigorous game of Wiff-Waff and eaten a tartiflet." - Henry Minute  "Let's face it, after Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!" - gavindon   Programming is a race between programmers trying to build bigger and better idiot proof programs, and the universe trying to build bigger and better idiots, so far... the universe is winning. - gavindon

Thanks so much for following up; the CFO is giving me a bit of a run-around that I'm going to expound more on in a post tomorrow for some more good advice... Stay posted friend and thanks again "... having only that moment finished a vigorous game of Wiff-Waff and eaten a tartiflet." - Henry Minute  "Let's face it, after Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!" - gavindon   Programming is a race between programmers trying to build bigger and better idiot proof programs, and the universe trying to build bigger and better idiots, so far... the universe is winning. - gavindon

OK thanks for the sound advice, esp about that doughnut hole; never heard of that before and I sure am glad you brought it up... Thanks "... having only that moment finished a vigorous game of Wiff-Waff and eaten a tartiflet." - Henry Minute  "Let's face it, after Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!" - gavindon   Programming is a race between programmers trying to build bigger and better idiot proof programs, and the universe trying to build bigger and better idiots, so far... the universe is winning. - gavindon

:laugh: "... having only that moment finished a vigorous game of Wiff-Waff and eaten a tartiflet." - Henry Minute  "Let's face it, after Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!" - gavindon   Programming is a race between programmers trying to build bigger and better idiot proof programs, and the universe trying to build bigger and better idiots, so far... the universe is winning. - gavindon

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Three upvotes? I'm keeping my shoes and socks firmly on, when visiting CP in future. I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

I'm sure there must be another one in there along the lines of another Passenger asked the TSA Agent where the toilet was. To which he replied "I'm not a Pointer".:confused:

That should go here![^] Oh, and :eek: I think computer viruses should count as life. I think it says something about human nature that the only form of life we have created so far is purely destructive. We've created life in our own image. Stephen Hawking

Michael Bergman wrote: Would you like a tissue? Yes please, make mine some lung... "... having only that moment finished a vigorous game of Wiff-Waff and eaten a tartiflet." - Henry Minute  "...who gives a tinker's cuss?" - Dalek Dave  "Let's face it, after Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!" - gavindon   It's plain that they do not yet know what true fear really is. - JSOP 2011

AspDotNetDev wrote: periodic humor :-D There's quite a bit of that around here.

Chris Meech wrote: nce the jar is empty don't you get a null reference exception. yes. I was going to put that as well and damned if you didn't. :-D "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011) "No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011) "It is the celestial scrotum of good luck!" - Nagy Vilmos (2011)

Yeah the browser difference has been interesting to me too especially since if you visit speedtest.net with any other browser but Chrome it says "Not fast enough for you? Try a faster browser: Chrome". So one would but hope that they would have at least optimized it somehow for it... But yes the site uses Flash so THERE'S YER PROBLEM :laugh: I've just gotten so hooked on the animation that I haven't been even trying any of the other speed test sites I used to use... mmmm shiny... Yeah I'm not complaining at all about the price - back in the day who could have imagined this kind of bandwidth for this price range... I think I must still owe AOL a couple of hundred or so from 1994 when they first tried to get me with their feckin "Channels" on my 400 baud notebook modem :-D "... having only that moment finished a vigorous game of Wiff-Waff and eaten a tartiflet." - Henry Minute  "...who gives a tinker's cuss?" - Dalek Dave  "Let's face it, after Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!" - gavindon   It's plain that they do not yet know what true fear really is. - JSOP 2011

This is not funny. TCP is a serious crime and effects so many people and should not be made into a joke.