had to reread this as the first time i missed the "up" You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

That is what I mean... The main window is nicey glassy thanks to Aero, but the children windows are just 'plain' non-glass. I was wondering if there is a way of getting the Aero effect on the children, or atleast picking up the right colours? I guess that by poking around with the WM_NCPAINT-ish messages it could be possible, but not sure how... I haven't really looked into the whole non-client area painting stuff.

DVR is the best thing to happen to television since the remote. I can't stand watching anything that wasn't recorded, except maybe some sporting events. BW If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate. -- Steven Wright

Well the Box says Pro, the CD says Pro... and if I remember the install.. it said Pro too. When I next start it up I'll have a look, but I think it said Pro.

I think we should have a Garbage Bin for deleted articles, so that those of us that would like to know what the thread is about can still have a look, after the offending work has been removed from polite company. I used to get high on life until I realized that life was cut with morons - Unknown

Thanks.... VK_OEM_5 appears to be the one I am after... well it comes up as a \ on my UK keyboard. -- Justin

I'm surprised people still talk about measuring output by lines of code. Does if (x) blah(); count as 1, and if (x) blah(); Count as 2? What about whitespace? Comments? Is a programmer more productive if we writes lots of code, or if he researches and uses 3rd party components and ends up writing a system that uses less lines of code? Is a programmer who writes lots of code and no documentation more of a REAL programmer than one that spends a lot of time writing up the docs? cheers, Chris Maunder