LOL that's right, start them in Python and let them get spoiled by ease of use and an interpreter...wait 'til they get a load of C# :laugh:
"Seize the day" - Horace "It's not what he doesn't know that scares me; it's what he knows for sure that just ain't so!" - Will Rogers, said by him about Herbert Hoover
The code makes perfect sense in its context. Were you looking at it through beer goggles? :suss:
"Seize the day" - Horace "It's not what he doesn't know that scares me; it's what he knows for sure that just ain't so!" - Will Rogers, said by him about Herbert Hoover
Shameel wrote:
Yes, but unfortunately there are many "programmers" who liberally use exception handling mechanism to initialize object and to control code flow.
I refer you to Sturgeon's Law: "90% of everything is crud, including this statement." This most definitely applies to programmers and to code.
"Seize the day" - Horace "It's not what he doesn't know that scares me; it's what he knows for sure that just ain't so!" - Will Rogers, said by him about Herbert Hoover
....then again, the educational system has been getting crappier for years...:~
"Seize the day" - Horace "It's not what he doesn't know that scares me; it's what he knows for sure that just ain't so!" - Will Rogers, said by him about Herbert Hoover
I've never heard anyone in America do that except by mistake. Could be due to extended exposure to bad elements from overseas :laugh:
"Seize the day" - Horace "It's not what he doesn't know that scares me; it's what he knows for sure that just ain't so!" - Will Rogers, said by him about Herbert Hoover
Geez, I have never actually seen an example of this, but our Fortran and Data Structures instructor mentioned it once on a really old version of Fortran IV.
"Seize the day" - Horace "It's not what he doesn't know that scares me; it's what he knows for sure that just ain't so!" - Will Rogers, said by him about Herbert Hoover
I might do the same thing for our Toshiba, but my wife went through two Toshiba laptops which didn't last more than one month each, so now I may, emphasize may, do something about it in my lifetime. Now THAT'S politics :laugh:
"Seize the day" - Horace "It's not what he doesn't know that scares me; it's what he knows for sure that just ain't so!" - Will Rogers, said by him about Herbert Hoover
LMAO kids these days have no attention span whatsoever.
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I've seen the point you're making numerous times. I've seen software successfully implement that idea. I didn't say it wasn't a good idea in many circumstances. When the decision to commit or cancel cannot be undone afterward, your assertion makes a great deal of sense. When the decision to commit or cancel can easily be undone, say, through an edit screen accessed later, it is far less critical, and when the goal of the interface is speedy manual input of large amounts of information, randomly changing the position of screen controls forces the operator to make time-wasting decisions. This is not acceptable in many business contexts. Further, if you have two hundred items to change, that's two hundred points of failure you now have to test for, and that's a lot of man-hours you now have to pay for - and for what? Are you gaining in safety what you lose in time to change the code, time to test it, and time for your user base to get used to the new entry pattern? Both of these points have to be addressed in order to justify to a business an extensive change like this. You justify the decision because the current control order "shows a complete lack of disregard (??) for standards and poor UI design" because "the whole reasoning behind Cancel | OK is completely invalidated by changing its order." How about some statistics? What is the level of acceptance or cancellation in error due to the fact that these buttons are in a particular order at all times in this application? In short, can you at least suggest a technique to prove or even support your assertion in a way that bears some resemblance to science and not doctrine? Because that's what you are promoting - and yes, it does "sound religious", doesn't it? Nearly 30 years of development experience in businesses from four employee startups to 60,000 employee companies in the Fortune 100 has made me a development atheist - I don't believe it until I've tested it. Nor do I make decisions without considering the context in which the decision will be made and the cost of implementing that decision - I show a "complete lack of disregard" (that is to say, I place great regard) for the business consequences of a software doctrinal decision.
"Seize the day" - Horace "It's not what he doesn't know that scares me; it's what he knows for sure that just ain't so!" - Will Rogers, said by him about Herbert Hoover
LMAO..."All in all it's just a brick in the wall."
"Seize the day" - Horace "It's not what he doesn't know that scares me; it's what he knows for sure that just ain't so!" - Will Rogers, said by him about Herbert Hoover
Marco Bertschi wrote:
I'm happy to have something like a wall between my German and English language knowledge :)
Alles in allem war es gerade ein Ziegelstein in der Wand. :laugh:
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Fine...YOU pay for it :-D
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Perhaps now your customers are used to it it's not a good idea to change it though... Although new customers may benefit from it.
Cost versus benefits...if your current user base is very small compared to the new user base, and your new user base is more likely to purchase your product if you change, then it may make sense. These changes do not come for free.
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I've studied UI, and the whole reasoning behind doing something like Cancel | OK is completely invalidated by never changing its order.
Really? You've "studied UI"?? Add to your studies that many if not most of these OK/Cancel buttons respond to Enter for OK and Escape for Cancel. Man does not compute by mouse alone, and neither should a UI expert. Talk about ivory towers...I've seen what you suggest in actual implementation for truly critical application paths, and it has its place there, but for general use in all applications your user base would rise up in arms and depose you for a less educated but more practical developer. BTW, as part of my Master's Degree in Computer Science, I took the User Interface Seminar, so I'm familiar with the principles you expose. Many of them fail miserably in general practice because they interfere with getting things done as quickly as humanly posssible for the least cost, which are principles from another discipline entirely called BUSINESS.
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This particular tester seems to think that he is a God among men when it comes to interfaces...
I think I've met him...and her...many times in my career. I was that idiot, in fact, for the first couple of years of my career. Ask him how much of his pay he will donate to the costs of development and QA for this change.
"Seize the day" - Horace "It's not what he doesn't know that scares me; it's what he knows for sure that just ain't so!" - Will Rogers, said by him about Herbert Hoover
I didn't deactivate it, just never used it, until I realized that most of the news about my family from my family was first reported on one of their walls, so I now at least check it regularly to make sure my family isn't doing anything too gloomy (I mean you, stepson!)
"Seize the day" - Horace "It's not what he doesn't know that scares me; it's what he knows for sure that just ain't so!" - Will Rogers, said by him about Herbert Hoover
TWO...OH...FOUR...EIGHT... WHAT DO WE APPRECIATE MIND GAMES, MIND GAMES LIKE 2048!!!! **cheers**
"Seize the day" - Horace "It's not what he doesn't know that scares me; it's what he knows for sure that just ain't so!" - Will Rogers, said by him about Herbert Hoover
I've worked in open-area workspaces before. Please shoot be before I have to work in another. I need at least some privacy to concentrate properly. Currently I'm in a half-height cube in a short row in a smaller office space, which offers at least some seclusion. As to your assertion that working in the office means only working during working hours....OMG. What industry do YOU work in? I've been taking work home to do in virtually every job I've had long before work-at-home became popular and widespread. Even when work-from-home was more restricted here in my current position, I would get calls and problems requiring work on nights and weekends. One of the best things about working from home is that I can control the distractions at home, but not at work. One of the best things my boss likes about me being in work is he can walk over to my desk at any time to distract me. It's also when some of our more productive sessions take place, because we're usually talking about something that we haven't spent time talking about in meetings (otherwise, he wouldn't be walking over to ask me). However, when I know what I'm doing, I'd just as soon do it without anyone (especially my boss) jogging my elbow while I'm doing it. Currently I'm working from home all the time because I'm restricted from driving for medical reasons. Thus, I've worked a few weeks from home, rather than a day or two per week as I usually do. I finally convinced my wife to drive me in for at least two days per week. The fact is, I was missing things happening at work that did not affect my current job assigments necessarily, but that impacted me personally - for instance, I just happened to come back to work the day they had a mass layoff, and so by chance I was able to say goodbye personally to a couple of people I'll probably never see again. None of which impacts the decision at Yahoo. This is obviously a decision of desperation by someone who needs to prove to a doubtful board of directors that they are, indeed, doing something to change things at Yahoo. Only someone in desperation would unilaterally and universally lay down such a policy, because no possible justification comes close to countering the amount of outrage such a major change will cause among Yahoo's employees, even the ones who actually do show up at an office. Such a change could have been worked in quietly, with first one group then another being told they need to come into the office. Politically, it's an invitation to disaster and brain-drain.
To continue... "Naturally, I'm not programming anything that requires more thought than a payroll program, and I have a perfect memory and everyone I work with does too, and all of them plan to live forever and never leave my company." 'nuff said.
"Seize the day" - Horace "It's not what he doesn't know that scares me; it's what he knows for sure that just ain't so!" - Will Rogers, said by him about Herbert Hoover
LOL but wait, there's more... Apparently Bob was working on "critical applications" which clearly was intended to mean "classified applications." He could be in violation of the OSA or one of its derivatives; certainly having a resident of a foreign country, much less China with its general lack of respect for other people's technical secrets, working on anything that could be classified as "critical" without even the tacit consent of his management makes his termination from employment the LEAST of the consequences of this stupidity. I expect the security establishment will be very busy ruining his peace of mind for some time to come.
"Seize the day" - Horace "It's not what he doesn't know that scares me; it's what he knows for sure that just ain't so!" - Will Rogers, said by him about Herbert Hoover