I like your succinct reasoning comments here. A few things I picked up on.
andy brummer wrote:
To put it sucinctly: There is a higher truth. It is hidden from us and all we see are it's shadows. If you've read Plato it's esentialy his argument for a higher plane.
I don't know whether you're saying this in the philosophical sense, or the physical sense, but as far as Quantum Mechanics goes, you're right. I know this is grossly simplifying it, but in Quantum Mechanics, the thing being observed is affected by the observer. For example, you can't measure an electron's location and velocity, because by measuring the location, you change its velocity. In Relativity, the measurement depends upon your relative location and speed. Okay, the pencil might have a constant length in 4-dimensional space-time, but at speed the pencil would shrink in 3-dimensional space, to an outside observer. But if you could be in the pencil, it wouldn't seem to be changing. So we're affected by gravity. It's "hidden from us" because we can't become outside observers. Kind of the point I was trying to make. I'm sorry, I guess we were just reaching the same conclusion. Danny The stupidity of others amazes me!