Especially if it's banking related... What happens if you import a item_text from cell C5... But cell C5 says something like alert('XSS!'), with possible variations to mask the < symbol.. You're not protected by asp.net anymore "A potentially dangerous...". There is no form. You must handle ALL validation in the code I assume... NEVER trust user uploads...

MehGerbil wrote:

If you knew how shoddy banks are with data you'd probably hide your money under a pillow.

Trust me, I know. I'm a programmer, refusing to access his own bank account via web... So I used to go directly (old school style) for transfers; but then last time I get these clueless computertards doing it for me, from their computer! (more likely to be infected than mine). I also saw how easily I could have, well, while she was, well, don't wanna give any ideas (puts infected usb back in pocket)...

There's something wrong with your process, if you rely on: -1. A user manual upload into a specified format you expect. -2. The format may change in time, that bank file. -3. version of office/excel will change, and so will the format. You need to bypass the middle-man user, get the data from the source, xml, rss,... Automate step 7. If the user CAN make a mistake, he WILL make a mistake.

I still test my apps on IE6... Corporate apps.. Some people still have a fossil of a computer that belongs in a museum, with a 14" screen, a muddy keyboard with missing keys and oil stains... Sitting in a storage area, using software form 1990, and filling my forms daily, double clicking hyperlinks, 800x600, you get the picture... Still got some of those... In fact, if you take his computer away, and give him a new one with win 7 or 8, he'll complain. Typically, those people end up crashing and burning on newer systems, and you'll hear "My old (unpatched) win 2000 didn't crash like this." It doesn't have to be perfect on IE6, but it has to work.

Hmm, wasn't suggesting it as full diet, but as a "once a week" treat. And of course, not the oily one; one that is in water only. Weird; here, I was shocked to find that tuna (the same one I eat) was less than half the price of cat food (and it's good!). And the frozen fish is a giveaway compared to brand cat food.. And drives the cats NUTS when I'm boiling it. Every weekend, is fish madness... (involves biting and screaming at 4AM to get me up)

Ever tried "real" food? Tune, for example, can be cheaper than any brand of cat food. Some cats love it... Same for frozen fish: sometimes it's cheaper than the (horrible) cat food mixtures. ..And that'll drive your cat crazy.

Lots of espresso. Sipping on some red bull now. So now starts the productive time..

SO TRUE! I recognize myself in all of those. lol

Ask toolbar. Running on 2.9 billion devices. Success. Ask toolbar is awesome. How could anyone live without it? (super sarcasm, of course)

All you need is a pocket knife, a bandana, and know how to use what nature gives you... portableapps.com paint.net with plugins (ico and psd minimum) -->>>> RDP, VPN...

jschell wrote:

I suspect that many people that spent the money on one with the intent to use it at work and actually managed to find something at work to use it with would rationalize that it makes them "more" productive.
 
Just as many people rationalize the same thing about almost all non-trivial new technologies and programming APIs.

By FAR, my favorite reply...

Maybe I should have excluded geeks from the original topic. Real work, by non nerds.

Windows is not a tablet. You are excused :P

So, working in huge offices, hundreds of people... And NOONE uses any form of tablet. It's just too impractical, cumbersome, etc.. Yet, a handful of silly managers keep on bringing up tablet ideas to me. How I should be making this and that for tablets. BUT, noone uses those shits! Moreover, would you really trust apple or google, who have a long history of snooping on people, gathering TMI (too much information), tracking users and usage, with critical & restricted business documents? Synchronizing documents in the clouds, sending them over internet..? They're not even that portable. Anyway, seeing hundreds of office workers, I still don't see anyone using it. Whether it be for notes in meetings, etc.. Well, noone uses them -at all. The ONLY usage I've ever heard of that seems reasonable is to entertain 5 year-olds with silly games. Added the "rant" button now, because I'm reaching rage levels over these over-hyped, over-advertized, over-blogged (mostly paid ads in reality), pieces of sssshhhhhiiiiAAAAAARRRG. Tablets are like the windows millenium of computing. A failed experiment. Good to entertain children, good for wannabe-a-modern managers who try to seem technically interested and up to date. I'd burn them all (the tablets, not the children and managers. lol).

I hate it. I had so high expectations. :mad::mad::thumbsdown::thumbsdown: It's just as bad, maybe worse than 2010. So I'm still working with VS 2008 (on windows 8 pro).. Some features are simply broken/not working in VS 2010-2012. The loss of productivity when trying to use 2012 is just ridiculous. And believe me, I tried hard, and still try on occasion; but always end up doing internet searches to find out WHY those features don't work. Mainly Edit & Continue, which lost all it's purpose from 2010 and up.

Just sell it. Buy a product that doesn't require a urine sample and dna testing.

:thumbsup: :laugh:

Clifford Nelson wrote:

Interesting, Apple obviously contains a lot of idiots. Of course look at the people who buy apple products.

I've been programming on Windows 8 Pro for a few weeks now. After some personalization, I have to say, I love it... (But not using the start screen or any of that metro crap) Windows 8 is really really good. Fast. Windows is still Windows: you make it what you want, and it just works. Did I mention it's fast?? Visual Studio 2008 starts faster than opening notepad in Windows 7.

I agree. Most people jump on every single overhyped thing, because they need to seem cool and modern. The reality, at least for business, is that tablets are useless. I've never seen one person using it, for business. Why? Because it's unpractical, limited, and still cumbersome! Everything the tab can do, a laptop can do better, with more freedom. Typing an email? Have to put the tablet flat on table and start smearing your finger grease all over the thing.. Drag drop a file attachment from the deskt... Ooops, no, BUY an app for it. Wanna..? -BUY the app for it. BUY, BUY, BUY, from the single only store that allows apps for it. Anyway, I'm not on the doubter side here; I'm sure this is a flop. People use them for bs tasks, games that remind me of the early 90s. Oh, and updating their pathetic fb page as if the world is watching them, eagerly awaiting their next update. These days, new gadget, pay all the usual bloggers, websites, to make a "review". Don't be foooled by the "reviews"; 95% of them are really paid ads. And then people think "everybody says.."; but no, ask any computer geek like me, and we'll tell you what these finger-grease flat screens are good for... *points at children playing games on fb*

Logo + ! When I discovered functions, I was blown away.

Yeah... Slow and not always x browser... I used it for everything before, now just for "small" grids... Now, I'm back to old school tables 100% built by me... lol