I really hope so, i've been watching msdn subscribers on a dayly basis for the last 2 weeks. (i hope they have good download servers :)) www.agilis.be

The Europe has always tried to unite the different people. And it never worked out. And if history teaches us anything,... it repeats. I hope not this time As for the limitations in coming to work in the "old " countries: this is a good thing for the new ones. My professor (law university of ghent) who is in the board that controlles the expension of the eu says the following about this. In theory the new country's must rapidly increase the earnings of the workforce. By doing so (within 3 to 5 years) eliminating the need the restrictions, giving a better future for there people and increasing the amount of money the people can spend and thus creating a greater market. They will do this by giving everyone who works for the gouverment in those country's a higher salary. The private market will atomatically follow.

Thanks Björn I had just read the "mastering XDE book from sybex" It had an overview of different patterns but i just couldn't fit the puzzle together. Now it's coming clear to me. If you ever need a favor, just yell Greets from Belgium Jan www.agilis.be

I just want to know where to put the object model (the classes like customers, orders, ...) in the n-tier model. Common , Data or business layer. (on msdn they put datasets is the common. thanks Jan www.agilis.be

this is true, you have to let a thread stop itself, thread.abord() just raises an exception in the thread to stop it. Problem with this exception is that you cant handle it and the entire app will stop. www.agilis.be

Hi Björn Thank you for the reply. I asked this because msdn is screaming black and white about the subject of custom objects. The say put the creation static in the objects, who then ask the dal to create them. Or put the objects in the DAL like you do. Or use a common layer. Do you have an example or uml scheme? Another question: Insert update and delete, are those methods inside the custom object? Thank you (to respond the the question above this post: a common layer holds classes that can be used in all layers) www.agilis.be

Facade layer is a sort of "grouping" layer. Lets say you have a customer and a orderEmployee. A customer can add an order a orderEmpoyee can add an order and approve orders. You have an order object wich has the 2 functions + a couple of internal ones. You create a customer facade with only te first operation in it and a orderEmployee facade with both in it. This makes an application easier to secure and to understand for other people. This looks not nessessary but if you have 10+ roles and 50 objects and then times the amount of functions witch are not all to be exposed to the client... jan www.agilis.be

Hi everyone, i'm having a bit of an architectural crisis. I want to start an application that is layered. I cannot use datasets, only an object model. I want the following layers: DAL, Common, Services, facade(not nessessary), and web/webservices. Where do i put the object model (objects like customer, questionlists, employees,...). In the common layer so i can get filled employee's out of the DAL or do i put the OM in the services layer and fill them there? The first has the advantage that i only need my update delete and insert take 1 parameter (employee) otherwise with the OM in the services layer i need my DAL funtions to take all the parameters. What do you do? Thank you Jan Vercauteren. OVERVIEW -----------------------------|---------------| | DAL | | -----------------------------| | | SERVICES | COMMON | |----------------------------| | | FACADE | | |----------------------------| | | GUI (web) | | |----------------------------|---------------| www.agilis.be

Did you install CR on that machine www.agilis.be

hi kannan tx 4 the fast reply. I have yet another question. I need to encode a checkbox value. how do i do that. This is the form .name (11.31 EUR) ccTLD's .be (8.50 EUR)       www.agilis.be

Hi , how do i perform an http post to a classic asp page from within a windows forms app? thanks jan www.agilis.be

Running behind a router with firewall, 2 soft firewalls and 2virusscanners. It had no chance ;-) www.agilis.be

whats MSBLAST.EXE? www.agilis.be

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jep i'm shure, during the post install (gathering information....) greetzzzzzz www.agilis.be

Haha, just started installing vs.net 2003 and the installer asks me to "PLIASE WAIT" i hope i dont have to change all my "string" to "striang" ;-) www.agilis.be

jep i mean here @ codeproject :-). But I still don't know if they delever :(( www.agilis.be

Sorry if i am in the wrong forum but Does Codeproject also deliver vs.net in europe? (i'ts a lot cheaper here) Tx Jan

TFT ? ;) www.agilis.be

lol, even my grandmother understands what i do. www.agilis.be