Three elements or, if you like, three fundamental principles constitute the essential conditions of all human development, collective or individual, in history: (1) human animality, (2) thought; and (3) rebellion. Anti-depressants Controlling tools of your system Making life more tolerable Making life more tolerable Serj Tankian - Unthinking Majority

Legitimacy of a government can only come from the People through free, opened elections. Egyptian and Tunisian governments are therefore not legitimate. Being sure a government does not become an oppressor is easy, the system just has to respect separation of powers[^] separation of powers: executive, judiciary and legislature have to be separate and control each others. When they kick at your front door How you gonna come? With your hands on your head Or on the trigger of your gun? Fold with us! ¤ flickr

"Inflation, as this term was always used everywhere and especially in this country, means increasing the quantity of money and bank notes in circulation and the quantity of bank deposits subject to check." von Mises, Ludwig (1951-4-6). "Economic Freedom and Interventionism". Economics of Mobilization. Sulphur Springs, West Virginia: The Commercial and Financial Chronicle. CaptainSeeSharp wrote: It isn't. It is. If it weren't for [an increase in the money supply inflation], there would be no [inflation tendency for prices to rise]! is considerably more Austrian.

Ian Shlasko wrote: Hey, I lust after female celebrities MY OWN age, thank you very much Good to know I'm not the only one... The problem is that there are fewer and fewer who still look as good as Alyssa Milano who is the same age as I am. I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.

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josda1000 wrote: Java sucks! You may be a total nerd, but at least you're smart enough to be right. I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

CaptainSeeSharp wrote: They create the paper money, and use that to control us and take real wealth away from us everyone else. FIFY being as you have no wealth and are extreamly unlikely to ever have any. You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start

Second-to-last sentence of the first section, just before the "Effects" part. EDIT: Oh, nevermind... Didn't see your other post Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

"How do you get to Carnegie Hall? Money. Lots and lots of money." -- St. Robin (Williams) Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

josda1000 wrote: You made the claim that it's not correct. In response to your claim. You cant twist this any other way. You made a claim, I refuted it, you can attempt to back it up or not. I dont really care. josda1000 wrote: Are you just here to give me a hard time? It really seems that way. If that's the case, I'm not laughing. oh no. josda1000 wrote: Josh Gray wrote: I think they're a good thing and necessary for the kind of society I like to live in. Josh Gray wrote: useless rhetoric. Damned right. I know you are but what am I?

josda1000 wrote: Common sense is now that the world revolves around the sun. That it is the earth's rotation that gives us day and night is what has had to be explained to each and everyone, because our uneducated intuition (i.e., Common Sense) is that the sun rises and sets. josda1000 wrote: One could argue that this is correct; yes. One could argue that World War I never took place because the Austrian, British, French, German, and Russian, Empires, were on the Gold Standard and, consequently, set aside their nationalism and sought a diplomatic solution? I am sure you did not mean that. Bob Emmett New Eugenicist - The weekly magazine for intelligent parenting. Published by the New World Order Press.

No, not quoted... he just mentioned some. Josh Davis Always looking for blackjack. Or maybe White Frank. One of the two.

Christian Graus wrote: At a minimum, the amendment in question does expect that your gun at home makes you able to fight a soldier from your country, or an invading country, in an open battlefield, and that is plain not true today. What are the insurgents in the middle east using that is so much better? How are they keeping us from just sweeping the country free of them? What weapons do they have that would not be available to me, if I tried? Opacity, the new Transparency.

this is where the issue is, it seems to be only BP that is getting the blame,the company that ran the rig (bearing in mind that this company runs 40% of the gulf rigs and may elsewhere so can be called an expert in its field surely?) is getting away pretty scot free (at least they havent lost 1/2 there value over it) BP can be blaimed (and accept that) but thier crime is that they left the running of the rig to the supposed experts and didnt check on them sufficiently (although by all account they did run checks which were passed with flying colours - although these had to be arranged in advance so may have been fiddled!) there seems to be a disparity between the retoric aimed at a non US company comapared to the US comapany that ACTUALLY CAUSED THE DAMM PROBLEM by the way have you actual worked out the size of the spill to the size of the gulf? just compare the volume of the gulf to the size of the spill, oh and then try the same with the exxon valdez, torri canon and the spills in nigeria and you may be suppised oh and personnelly I think that BP is doing its best to stop the spill dont you? the fact that teh divice specifically desgined to prevent this has failed despite tripple redundancy is a major concern not just to BP but surely to all oil companies as the EXACT same unit is fitted to the majority of wellheads - not very comforting is it! as to stoping the flow, well you can hardly call the plumber can you! think of it as a fire hyrdrent that has had its stop taken off, your job is to stop the flow - (you cannot turn off the water) oh and to make things lifelike you have to do this from the next state, BP tried the fallback positions (have you read shell and exxon on this, they both have stated that BP followed the same path they would have done in the circumstances) and they failed, they are winging it and preying You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start

I tacked on Che, as there is the one iconic image of him that people might actually put on their wall. It really was nothing but stereotypes.

josda1000 wrote: USSR. Germany. Zimbabwe. GREECE. Do your homework. Taking some societies where things went bad and looking for any correlation you can find, without proper analysis of the overall societal and situational differences, is not homework. It's squeezing the facts to fit your worldview. josda1000 wrote: Try again. Do your homework. Read history. You may read as much history as me, I doubt you read more. josda1000 wrote: And you definitely have to read up on how the Federal Reserve was created. I've read a lot about that, too. I didn't invest in the stock markets before reading some histories to understand where they came from. josda1000 wrote: I'm pretty sure I'm right about this one, and this just further proves you really are living in a fantasy. People in the 1800s did not have 3 cars, did not pay for cable and 4 cell phones, did not have long holidays, or computers. The main issues are complex. House prices have been driven up by scarcity of land. Population growth pushes the poor further away from jobs, and thus increases their travel costs. People not being willing to live with extended family increases living costs for everyone. There's a ton more going on than 'the fed came along and inflation went nuts'. josda1000 wrote: And you're doing the same. I didn't even present any reasons, I just said that what you're saying is simplistic and made to fit your views. josda1000 wrote: I think you and Ian pointed out that even though CSS and I are of the same opinion, I back my stuff up. Absolutely. That you believe the same things says nothing about your personality vs his. It's just a sad thing for you to align yourself with, without any caveats. He has his worldview, but it's plainly based on ignorance and blind acceptance of alternative media sources. I suspect there's more people like him, than like you, in the 'movement' as a whole. He comes to agree with you by accident, not by rational thinking, so that he does, does not help you at all. Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out

Of course, he's SO dangerous. What a pile of crap. He's alive b/c they don't care. They probably laugh their asses off at the crap on conspiracy sites like the ones you visit. Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

Ian Shlasko wrote: If all of the companies selling a product agree to double the price, who's to say that isn't now the "real value"? It's not illegal, is it? I think that's called price fixing and is "technically" illegal but like many white collar crimes, try prosecuting it. Ian Shlasko wrote: And for that matter, what about monopolistic practices? It's not illegal to have a monopoly, is it? No, but supposedly the rules of engagement for monopolies is different. All depends on how many and which members of Congress you've managed to employ. Ian Shlasko wrote: They own so much of our debt, that if we hyperinflated and devalued it, their economy would die almost as fast as ours. They've invested so much of their money in our economy, that they can't afford to see us drop. Not to mention, we outsource so much of our labor to China, their manufacturing sector would take a dive too. If we die, they die. Reminds of the story about the scorpion talking the frog into taking it across the river. :^) Once you agree to clans, tribes, governments...you've opted for socialism. The rest is just details. modified on Saturday, June 12, 2010 1:34 AM

riced wrote: If by 'world currency' you mean a single world wide currency (like the Euro but global Smile ) That's exactly what I mean. Isn't betting on currencies betting against the economic viability of different countries to each other? That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_