At least it's more understandable than some British dialects such as Glaswegian and Liverpudlian both also known as "English" :-D

At no point in my post did I state that "gotten" is not a word(Full stop) It is a word(Full stop) It is an American English word(Comma) not an English English word(Full stop) It used to be an English English word (hyphen) 300 years ago(Full stop) It would be interesting to learn if the word form appeared in the first English dictionaries(Comma) which were produced for the first time at about that time(Full stop) Pedants rule OK(Exclamation mark)

And your point is? The American dictionary that you quote confirms that we can no longer claim much of what we owned 300 years ago. That part of the American continent now called the United States of America being a case in point! Keith

Touché Oops French! Keith

You are of course right in that gotten has dropped out of English usage by the English. However, I do take exception with your definition of the word "pure". Given that English is derived from German, Dutch, French, Latin, Celtic, Indian, Chinese and the languages of just about every other people with whom we have had contact (Including the Americans), English (In all its forms) is about as "pure" as very gritty mud! You never now, we might get around to using gotten again. Keith

Unfortunately, Lojban fails on one of its design concepts; phonetic spelling. Give any word to an Englishman, a Welshman, an Irishman and a Dutchman and you will get four completely different pronounciations! Keith

Hans - This thread is "English as she is spoke" NOT "American as she is spoke". No such word as "gotten" in English. Controversial or what :-D ? Keith

The fact that it places your home town, or at least that of your IP provider, in the US and then discusses everything in US Dollars says Scam Scam Scam! In my case the average Northamptonshire housewife would not think in US dollars!