17, which is NBD (no big deal), but I'd just turned 17 back in the summer of 1968 between my junior and senior year in HS. Taking "introduction to engineering nsf" classes at OSU. FORTRAN with 029 punch-card with IBM 7090 main-frame, iirc. One job-card a day. "You kids have it sooooo easy." :-) Went from being a "wrench" day-dreaming about Corvettes and Z/28's and figuring to eventually work in Detroit, to absolutely gob-smacked by these new-fangled computers. A life changing experience. TMI? ... I can recall my at-the-time GF experiencing MEGO (my eyes glaze over) while I explained ... in detail ... how a software program to find "perfect right-angle integer triangles" worked. That was pretty much the end of that. Sigh.

IBM 7094 (pre 360) in 1968 at age 16. One JCL job card per day. Traded for unused cards of my classmates to learn Fortran. On career track to be 3033 systems programmer in early 80's, and bought a Sinclair when they first came out, paying extra to have 8kb instead of 4kb, iirc. Figured out how to poke bytes to do ASM for software divide. Still recall that C9=RET. You kids got it easy. Amazed at how fast a z80 was compared to Basic (at least 10,000x faster?). Dropped IBM big blue iron like a hot potato. NEC 8086 with CPM-86 and pair of 8" floppies, early 80's. Spent about $7000 in early 80's for S-100 Compupro with CPM-68000, also 8" floppies. Spent a bunch for 256kb ram and 2mb RamDisk. Upgraded to 10mb hard drive several years later for about $1000, iirc. As I write, holding a 5 1/2" Miniscribe hard-drive with 8 platters, 40mb IIRC. Serial number 52609. Top removed so I can see the platters, 16 heads, etc. About 6 lbs.

I think I recall that C9 was the op code for "ret" for a z80 ... from "poking" bytes into a Sinclair micro with the upgraded 16kb module and cassette tape drive. Took several days to get a software divide to work. Never again.

Seems really pointless and of no interest to me, but at one point I had TextPad set up in such a way that I could do C++ and D builds. I sometimes do NSIS development this way. I think a huge advantage of IDE's is being able to step around in unknown code with the debugger (CodeProject articles come to mind) to see how the code works in order to "learn from" and adapt. Isn't that kind of the ... uh ... point of CodeProject?

I just read the article about the Google G1 phone: First Impression http://mossblog.allthingsd.com/20080923/googles-g1-first-impressions/[^] I would appreciate any links that would mention an SDK and possibly a "sweet-heart" deal for actual hardware. My understanding is that some hardware vendors have "loaners" for software developers. I've developed software for Pocket-PC and Palm devices, including "one way sync/conduits": PPC animated slideshow (about 2 minutes)[^] Palm animated slideshow (about 2 minutes)[^] Thanks

A nice thing about vc6 (among many others) is that it generates MFC code that only assumes mfc42.dll ... which has been part of the standard install since Win98-First-Edition (Win95 had mfc40.dll) You can link dynamically for really small executables and be confident that mfc42.dll will be present on 99% of the computers that will use your software (and many with Win95 will have picked up mfc42.dll somewere). I've also found that vc71, vc8, and vc9 generate somewhat slower code. However, I think the "search in files" and "tabbed property page per source file" work better in vc71. Also, "hover" to see definitions is handy. I tend to use vc71 for development and debugging, and generate the final executable for release with vc6.

Virtual PC seems to be free now ... at least that is what the website URL indicates. Perhaps that is just the SP-1? I've been meaning to give it a try.

My bad ... I didn't realize that "code" was an html tag ... I did a quick check of the spec, but obviously should have looked more thoroughly.

A minor suggestion to consider from a big fan of CodeProject: When I click on the Preview button, the window is almost invariably too small, and not where I would like it. I typically drag it aside and make it larger. Is there a reasonable way for the forum software to "remember" this and have the Preview window be placed where it was before? Is this something that is outside of your website's control, even if you wanted to make this change? (But perhaps this should serve as a hint for me to write smaller messages that fit in the provided space????? :omg:)

Thanks .... I thought that would be available, but with the word-wrap off, I couldn't see it .... it was far to the right. Apparently, I messed up usage of the < pre > or < code > tags.

Here is a minor suggestion that might improve your wonderful website: I would expect the "code" option at the bottom of this page to not only highlight and use monospace, but also to leave spaces intact for indentation and lining up code ... which would be equivalent to what the "pre" button does. Perhaps this is not something you can control or change even if you wanted to. I am not that familiar with HTML ... my impression is that < pre > is a valid HTML tag, but I don't believe that < code > is ... so it isn't like the forum software has a standard to conform to. By the way, I like how this forum software works compared to some others that I am experienced with .... you can select a range of lines, click on the < code > button, and the selected code is "wrapped" within < code >selected lines< / code >. That isn't the case with some forum software. This is line 1 without the code tag. This line has iiiiiiiiii's This line has wwwwwwwwww's This line has a bunch of spaces This line is supposed to be indented three spaces This line is supposed to be indented six spaces This is line 1 with the code tag This line has iiiiiiiiii's This line has wwwwwwwwww's This line has a bunch of spaces This line is supposed to be indented three spaces This line is supposed to be indented six spaces

This is line 1 with the pre tag
This line has iiiiiiiiii's
This line has wwwwwwwwww's
This line has a bunch of spaces
This line is indented three spaces
This line is indented six spaces

I may not be "the brightest bulb in the box", but I regularly have to use trial and error to get code snippets to show up correctly in messages I post. -- modified at 17:48 Tuesday 28th February, 2006

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I am a HUGE fan of CodeProject, and very appreciate of the website. For my purposes, I consider it one of the most valuable resources on the Internet. Thanks! Several things would be helpful and often missing for many articles, especially those which involve algorithms: * Console app using the algorithm. I find these MUCH easier than gui's to figure out with a debugger to step-into and step-around. * Extensive, even exhaustive tests to provide a high degree of confidence that the submitted code actually works. I REALLY want to reuse their code and not "re-invent" the wheel, but I really often wonder how "bullet-proof" the code is. * I looked on the website for "Guidelines for Authors when Submitting Articles" but perhaps didn't look hard enough. EDIT ... found the webpage for Authors ... but would suggest those guidelines put more emphasis on providing test code For example, I'm trying to reuse some submitted code related to tokenizing. I found several applicable articles. It would be VERY valuable for the demo code to have something like the following to show that the code has been rigorously tested:

char* testStringsWithTokens[] = {
// Test Expected Result
"a", "1 <1 a>",
"a b c", "3 <1 a><1 b><1 c>",
" a b c ", "3 <1 a><1 b><1 c>",
"one two three", "3 <3 one><3 two><5 three>",
"one\ttwo\tthree", "3 <3 one><3 two><5 three>",
"one,two,,,, ,,, three,,,", "3 <3 one><3 two><5 three>",
" one two three", "3 <3 one><3 two><5 three>",
" one\ttwo\tthree", "3 <3 one><3 two><5 three>",
" one,two,,,, ,,, three,,,", "3 <3 one><3 two><5 three>",
" one two three ", "3 <3 one><3 two><5 three>",
" one\ttwo\tthree ", "3 <3 one><3 two><5 three>",
" one,two,,,, ,,, three,,, ","3 <3 one><3 two><5 three>",
"one two three ", "3 <3 one><3 two><5 three>",
"one\ttwo\tthree ", "3 <3 one><3 two><5 three>",
"one,two,,,, ,,, three,,, ", "3 <3 one><3 two><5 three>",
// snip .... more tests
};

I realize that it isn't CodeProject's responsibility to see that such test code is included, and I'm VERY appreciative for what is available .... but the authors who presumably want their code to be reused are perhaps less aware that they could be of the value of cppunit-like test code .... Again, thanks. -- modified at 17:40 Tuesday 28th February, 2006

My first guess was that "CLI" stood for "command line interface" which seemed to indicate console program (non-gui) forum.