I have only used it one time; and it was a messup. I didn't know it was a one way set up to process the results; oh, don't ever answer your own question; bad bery bery bad :wtf: I think it's about the points the big boys get tally's and seeing their names on the page. I usually do the unlimited searches with all different engines. This is how I did my homework and is how I do my job. Rarely I have had to ask anyone on the internet how to do anything; there is already a similar solution out there somewhere that one can learn from and develop it to work in their favor. I also would like to see just an open forum where discussions are 'technical' and debates can happen, without insults or the ' I told ya so' attitudes. But, this is the internet where everyone can be an idiot and a genius at the same time. :cool:

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i wouldn't worry about any certificates, it won't make you a better programmer. I worked with lots of consultants that had all that stuff and i am still cleaning up aftrer them. I have read most of the manuals for the testing and really, about a quarter of it is really helpful in the real world, all the rest you will probably never use or is depricated by now. If you think it will help you think about software development better, then go ahead, education is never a minus. I would rather have someone who has confidence in thinking up solutions and learning whatever it takes to accomplish the job instead of some inexperienced person with lot's of titles asking "what should i do about it?" Be the one who says "hey, let me have a crack at that!"

has been reported by André Kraak, Sergey Alexandrovich Kryukov, ThePhantomUpvoter:confused: you boyz need to get a life, actually a real job programming. I don't see how my question was spam. According to your profiles it looks like your just trying to build up points; for what? This post is spam, abusive or otherwise inappropriate huh? any one who may wish to see it: .NET design mode IDE executing code frm3.5 vs.net 2010[^]

Lots of good stuff here, from the arrogant a-holes to the overhelpers. One thing I like about Agile is the ten minute meeting in the morning with the team to find out where everyone is at; currently we don't do that where i am now. :laugh: So, in my past experiences, just do it. if your unsure of what your doing, ask for some pointers, other code that someone may know of that is similar to the solution. Work with the nice people and stay away from the a-holes, you don't need their help and they always end up with their head up their, ya know. :wtf: YOUR ON DEVELOPMENT, FOR CHRIST SAKES TRY AND BRING IT DOWN :doh:

Looks like a newbie whose prof in 101 programming hammered down checking objects before using them. This would be sensible if it were a thousand lines down in the code, but, if it is null where is the property/method to new it up?

the semi-colon on the end of the conditional, the block will always execute. DoSomething is in its own little world and will always execute. C# will just raise a warning on the conditional but will not compile with the DoSomeThing becuse it is not a method or an assignment. But, what if it is not C# compiler, then there could be compilers that would allow this and it would be worthless code, i still use Crimson, NotePad, etc to write code. Either to many semi colons or not enough !!

RIGHT, sounds like some very old DBA's whose time is before Null became popular/sensible. An address, espicially if it is the first record, should not allow null; a person can have more than one address, so let the second/third,etc. allow nulls. Yes, I am having my tea. The front end issues can be resolved by checking for nulls in the stored proc CRUD's and sending error messages out instead of garbage; avoiding lot's of metadata on what the default values should be; today a zero, tomorrow an empty string. I use Null in all of my query's/procs, it is a must for any DBA or Programmer; consistancy that everyone can agree on. As long as your using it and checking for it, apps won't crash because of unkowns yet to be know and the database won't fill up with garbage, espicially ID's. I struggle all the time with poor app/database design, sigh, guess thats why we get the big bucks. Hang in there and don't let the bastards make you use MS Access, lol. ;)

Nice to hear some good things about COBOL. I have been going back in time; started out with the new languages in .Net, C, VB6, and finally ACOB. It doesn't matter what the language is, just do what you have to do with whatever you have and code for clarity; don't make it difficult to analyze or read. It has taken me more than a year to flow chart a program so I know what it does and doesn't do because there is no documentation. It is only one of thousands of batch runs and TIP programs; I think I have plenty to do until 2027:cool:

Weeeelll, how bout' having an ole' COBOL programmer who wrote and maintained this app for the last fifteen years and then up and decided it was time to retire one afternoon; off to Mexico he went. The app gets dropped in my lap, and not a bit of documentation, oh wait. There is one that say's "Dan knows How to do that". Dan is in Mexico. So, everymonth Dan ran some hacks that did some workarounds that fixed all the issues the app had since the birth of this beast. No one knows where they live on the main frame and no one cares to try and find out; they won't let me on production yet, i am still wet around the ears. So, there is a government agency losing about a million a month cuz of "not my problem". It is mine though, but hands are tied. I did suggest a per diem trip to Mexico and have a chat with Dan; they actually took it into consideration. :sigh:

As a matter of fact, I have to MainTainTheInsane Ball of string of GoTo's in legacy applications that were written decades ago by someone who is long gone. I see it all over and really had a fit when I had to code around them. But since I have been learning COBOL of all flavors, I can now see that it was all they had back then; think of Sequential programing real hard with no bells and whistles like the modern languages have now. After figuring out what one of these old legacy apps does, I have to admire the person/s who had written them; they had to be a lot more creative with so little to work with than what programmers have today to work with. Actually, I have seen some really cool logic using the GoTo; and again, some really insane WTF! stuff. Back in the days, yeah, it was necessary. Todays programming, NOT :)

All I know is that I spend more time configuring .Net and less time writing code these days. I agree that the standard Desktop and Web apps will be around for a long time, at least until some new MS OS comes out and makes the Federal and State governments add some mass quantities of patches/misery. Nice, their trying something new, but why not just improve on the good, existing, and since we worked like hell to make them working/reliable .Net IDE tools. I program from Main Frames to desktops/webs, to include Cobol,C#,vb.net,old vb6; last thing I want to do is learn some new code for some spiffy flashy Krappy app. True, everytime MS does come up with something good, they either quit supporting it or make a miserable attempt to improve it. Maybe its the high turnover up there in Redmond;

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Whomever trained your staff did not explain the "No Managers/Supervisors" part clearly; that is what the squeaky toys are for, when someone is beginning to manage the show too much. It is supposed to be a team effort and not really any paperwork except the back log. Stories need to be broken down into tasks before you can really get any sense of it being acclomplished; not sure how a desicion from one person can make that. The only issue I have had is the wasting time in meetings when others have nothing to talk about but their personal issues/lives and where are we going to eat for lunch :wtf: