Paul Watson wrote: ASP.NET has far more functionality out of the box than PHP Are you sure about this? And if so, care to give some examples? Really, I'm being objective and would like to know. One example for PHP is, AFAIK out of the box you can't even write a PDF file with ASP.NET, but with PHP you have been able since 4.0. I haven't started using ASP.NET, and from what I hear it does leaps and bounds over ASP. It's just unnerving when I hear some people (I'm not talking about you) dis PHP or anything - like Macs - when they know little about it. Jeremy Falcon