Yeah p4 3.06 ghz, it was smoking fast when I first got it. Then I upgraded to a SATA striped array because the hard drive was the bottleneck, now I'm back to the CPU being the major bottleneck during a big build. I guess it's time to start shopping around for a new P.C., or maybe hold off a year and get one around Vista release. I just lived through a heavy year of intense coding with what I've got now, I always seem to buy the new PC before I actually need it the most and do the most coding when I've got a system that has long since peaked as the fastest thing out there for performance in my price range. Stupid computers! :doh: I've always been an Intel man, but I guess that's anachronistic these days, I'll have to broaden my horizons. I wish someone would post build times for some sort of standard reference project that we could download and test against our system with good metrics and examples of different systems and how fast they are. Maybe a useful "open" article for CodeProject some day.