As In "Big Money Wasted", or "I would not want to own one not under warranty?" I would tend to agree... BTW, I am a BASHER of MSFT, simply because I expect more from them. Also, they get the blame, because 84% of the desktops are suffering from their GOOD and BAD decisions. We all have stories to tell, because we all have experience with them. And at some point, their bad decisions have crushed us. Programs I wrote 30 years ago should still work. have you tried to run Basica lately? Win3.1 16 bit code? the constant need to refresh working code. Ugghhh. How about windows 10 no longer liking programs that write program data to a Data folder under the program folder... Ahhh, progress... So, it's a love hate thing. I love that I can write and sell software that runs on Windows. But I hate the fact that the definition of "Windows" is too flexible, and that MSFT will make a bonehead change (like assuming everything is a tablet), or try to run a PIG on a phone. And I am left to deal with the problems... Don't get me started with tweaking the office file formats, and thwarting standards, and giving things away free, until they become popular and competition drops, then gouging... But still not as bad as I feel Oracle has been behaving!