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Haven't bothered to check that site yet, but it seems to me as if this is an offshoot of those "clean code" folks, for rather self-serving reasons....

Reading through all the responses just confirms to me that today nobody really understands anymore what OOP was supposed to be. And yes, the basic concept of OOP doesn't have a single "inventor", most certainly not Stroustrup, he is rather guilty of obfuscating the whole thing. People that had influence on the initial development of the OOP concept would rather be Alan Kay, Edsger Dykstra and Nikolaus Wirth. As for the scope of a class, it is quite difficult to give a quick example, but for the way I learned OOP, you professor would be wrong. Code abstraction is certainly one of the initial intends of OOP, but one of the fallacies that some people are going overboard with the level of abstraction. A single method and/or properties is just leading to obfuscation of the overall code, specially if that resulting class is used only in a single instance. Code abstraction is intended to help with the safely being able to reuse code and ease maintenance. Abstracting too much and you are just ending up in inheritance hell. That different implementations in different programming languages have different approaches to this is what makes OOP as it is often implemented today such a PITA...

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honey the codewitch wrote: And they do this for commercial code? Yes.

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I just look around, and if it's interesting, I try to make one better than what's out there. If the user's competition uses A, the user understands that there's economy and there's false economy. Or I make them understand. "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

Clipper was really great... I wrote a windowing library in it years ago (DOS type Windows) that I used for contract jobs. I eventually had to move to Clarion though as it was faster to develop in.

or Tasmania to Australia. "They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"

Br.Bill wrote: If you're heavily into the Windows dev train Oh, yes, I agree with that. I should have added a qualifier. I doubt anyone would use TFS if they are not using Visual Studio. I was mainly using SSIS, which necessitated the use of Visual Studio anyway. Trying to use Git with SSIS was very problematic (for me anyway, there were other issues involved [e.g. corporate politics] which didn't help) and I had to create a nasty work-around to get it to work. I have never had a choice of version control system, they are always dictated by management. As to writing code (C/C++ C# etc.) I prefer not to use Visual Studio at all. Similarly for SQL code -- I develop that in SSMS, not Visual Studio, then I have to generate scripts via the SMO API in .net to get them right.

I hear they can be very stealthy. :suss: cheers Chris Maunder

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Nice correction! My team is pretty healthy, but a few of them take care of elderly parents at home. It can be the third and fourth jumps that feel the full impact.

Joan M wrote: TortoiseGit That one. Think I tried SourceTree long time ago and it was annoying for some reason. Now not so much a preference but rather what I am used to. I do use the command line for a number of things.

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The classic Dilbert strip where Alice is trying to get a client to describe what he wants an app to do. The punch line is the client asking her, "can you design the software to tell you my requirements?"

This is to warn you that someone is posting ridiculous messages and signing your name to them! >64 Some days the dragon wins. Suck it up.

Here Here "Rock journalism is people who can't write interviewing people who can't talk for people who can't read." Frank Zappa 1980