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kmg365 wrote: terminator not as good as dunno, I'm a Sarah Chronicles addict and I wouldn't miss this. Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

Ilíon wrote: In a world filled with persons such as you, how could I not? Well, it appears that you spend most of your time surfing the internet. Exactly how many porn sites do you visit in a day? Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

Josh Gray wrote: They also smoke, drink & fart Came over from New Zealand, eh? Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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(U) = Unclassified (FOUO) = For Official Use Only As in the page heading. Bob Emmett

Gary Kirkham wrote: As unnecessary as turning a thread about sci-fi movies into something completely unrelated? Let's see. You posted you didn't like one theme in sci-fi movies and Zep posted he didn't like another theme. "Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then they get elected and prove it." -- P.J. O'Rourke I'm a proud denizen of the Real Soapbox[^] ACCEPT NO SUBSTITUTES!!!

Oakman wrote: What was amazing was how many people started their own thread about this instead of checking to see if someone else had already reported it. I checked the bug list and it wasn't on there, hence I posted about it... I did note a couple of others posted just above mine about substantially similar happenings!! Knowledge is knowing that the tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is not putting it in fruit salad!! Booger Mobile - Camp Quality esCarpade 2010

In fact, why don't you just cut the shit and demonstrate some actual scientific thinking that, y'know, actual scientific thinkers have to do by: a) Stating your formal hypothesis b) Stating what would falsify that formal hypothesis c) Stating an endpoint for your hypothetical investigation, i.e. how would we know when it is done Which would be a profound improvement. Stan Shannon wrote: The observation that every human civilization that has ever existed has arisen from a society that coalesced around a given set of religious principles and traditions and thrived while that religion was observed and descended back into anarchy as the religion became less associated with their daily lives. There is not a single example of a human civilization emerging from and thriving around a secular or athiestic philosophy. You have to be extrodinarily narrow minded to reject that religion is an organic and essential component of complex human social organization. I would say the evidence is altogether irrefutable. It is certainly at least as convincing as available evidence for human evolution itself. You spend more time in this paragraph telling me how wrong I am for rejecting the premise and how strong your evidence is than you do actually presenting evidence. What civilizations are you talking about? How do we know the historical data on them is reliable? What have you done (other than think really hard about it) to assure yourself that you're not confusing correlation with causation - that organized religion, being a product of order, falls as a consequence of increasing anarchy and isn't actually a driving cause? Again, your primary mistake is conflating historical evidence with scientific evidence, and you do this ONLY to make your argument sound stronger, not because you actually have any empiric data (which you haven't presented.) Stan Shannon wrote: It promotes a narrowly defined, universally applied moral agenda. It does not promote free thought, it promotes secular humanism which it calls 'free thought'. It pumps out little mental zombies like you by the millions. Again: so says you, having been out of the system for 20? 30? years. Your opinion is duly noted and given all the weight it deserves. :laugh: - F modified on Tuesday, May 5, 2009 6:27 PM

Nope, it was the democrats. Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

Synaptrik wrote: I'm arguing LAW. We are either a nation of laws or we aren't. I'm willing to accept either course personally. Its a wonder that you get so worked up without comprehending what is being said to you. Stop foaming and comprehend. I'm not the one with a comprehension problem. You want to claim that you are merely following some kind of American tradition which our nation has always adhered to. Yet, you blithfully ignore that the real tradition endangered here is the one that has always given our leaders a huge amount of latitude in how they have chosen to defend the country. Including things that have been measurably far worse than anything Bush did, even if the very worse charges against him are absolutely true. You are doing that only because of who Bush is and what he represents. You are not some kind of paragon of American virtue regardless of how hard you try to portray yourself that way, you're just another liberal demonizing the political opposition. Not trying to help the country, but merely your own political agenda. Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

Bassam Saoud wrote: Have you ever confessed you are wrong on a subject when presented with a logical idea Facts, yes. Frequently as a matter of fact. "Logical ideas" - not sure I know what you mean. Are you referring to classical logic which is always based on assumptions, not facts? Or using the word as so many do, as a synonym for rational which pretty much always carries the connotation of inference or thought process which needs must be explained very carefully and step by step to convince me to change what is essentially belief and not knowledge? At any rate, when it comes to beliefs the answer would have to be: infrequently, but it has been known to happen. How about you? If I searched among your posts, could I find one where you said something like, 'I was wrong and you were right?" Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

Mike Gaskey wrote: to what exactly? I'm not quite sure. Obama keeps saying at and the only thing I can think of is looking forward to a future where Presidents aren't tried even if there's evidence they've committed a crime. You never ever could win a war / That's what you have to learn / Here everybody is a loser / You will get nothing in return - "Fortunes of War", Funker Vogt

Rob Graham wrote: print money and pay your debts with worthless paper. That gets China, Japan and the senior citizens off his back (suuuuure it does) but the working citizens will have to come up with creative uses on their own: Up north they can burn it to keep warm in the winter. Down here, we can chop it up and throw it in with the garbage to stretch the slop for the hogs. No, I don't mean you can fuel your Harley with it, Mike. Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

Got me! :laugh: I must stop reading your posts, the contemptuousness is contagious. I preferred 'Changing his Tune', a much more apposite attack on Seeger, although Steyn goes OTT by including Al-Qaeda and Osama as if they, too, were 'leftie' icons. I find the idea of 'lefties' in the USA supporting Al-Qaeda and Osama hard to accept; and if they don't, why the need to repudiate them? Bob Emmett

Stan Shannon wrote: With a name like Craig, don't be too sure. Well, Craig is Pictish so I'm pretty sure we predate the Shannons. But we probably wandered down by the bog to check out the new comers' women in what was obviously a vain attempt to improve your bloodline. Stan Shannon wrote: I'm willing to bet I have given far greater consideration to far more points of view than have you. Your particular filter doesn't allow you to really consider other views. Stan Shannon wrote: My analysis of the history of this country is completely valid. Stan Shannon wrote: The issue is that you are representative of a class of people who have been made to hate your own civilization. I don't hate it. However, I do realize that our culture isn't perfect and there's room to improve. You, however, do hate everything that doesn't fit your narrow little definition of the world. Stan Shannon wrote: were your grandparents christians? I have no idea, I never discussed it with them. But what difference does it make if they were? According to that reasoning, the Shannons shouldn't have ignored Tevye singing "Tradition" and you'd be a practicing Druid. My grandfather was a farmer so I should be one, too? Probably not that far back, I had some ancestors who were illiterate, so I shouldn't read and think? Christianity is pretty johnny come lately. Especially, protestantism which you seem to favor. "Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then they get elected and prove it." -- P.J. O'Rourke I'm a proud denizen of the Real Soapbox[^] ACCEPT NO SUBSTITUTES!!!

What's accurate? Are you claiming that there is a qualatative difference in the definition of torture in those various documents? Prove it.

The Basque region of Spain is pretty nice. Amazing food and wine...

Everything is working out fine. No problems. Nice, tranquil and quiet - I have nothing but cows, church bells, wheat fields and old European street layouts...

Oakman wrote: Have you stopped eating pork, too? No, as long as it doesn't say anything about Back Room or Ilion on the package. "Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then they get elected and prove it." -- P.J. O'Rourke I'm a proud denizen of the Real Soapbox[^] ACCEPT NO SUBSTITUTES!!!