fat_boy wrote: Proportionaltely the working class pay more in tax than the upper class (due to efficient tax avoidance structures available to thiose with monwey Agreed, but that doesn't mean that they pay enough to cover their costs. When it comes to police, fire, sanitation, schools, hospitals, roads, etc., most of those costs, in this country, are paid for by millage, a tax much harder for the rich to avoid than income-based taxes. The three mexican families living in a three room walkup in the poorest section of town do not pay enough to cover what they add to the costs of those services - especially since they get their healthcare for free. fat_boy wrote: How can you condemn the desire for the working class guy vote when your entire country is based on the freedom of the simple man? Surely you are running against the very tennets of the US? Not in the slightest. Our country was founded as an oligarchy. Only rich white males could vote. (Rich meant you owned property or paid a poll-tax - the equivalent of a couple of months wages for a school-teacher, far more money than a bond-servant would see in a year.) fat_boy wrote: Cheek to cheek living, massively populated, massively used. This is a good thing according to you? Something we should emulate? X| fat_boy wrote: If you want growth, Where did I talk about growth? :confused: fat_boy wrote: you will have all the cheap labour you need at home We already do. I was hoping it would all go back where it came from, then this damnable flu-scare started. What I personally want is for the US to stop worrying about Europe, Asia and Africa and you-all go to hell in whatever handbasket suits your fancy while we take care of weaving ours.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin